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aggiehawg said:

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Wait! I have stars now? I'm not a subscriber. Staff? Did I get a promotion?

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Well deserved.

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LONG overdue.

CoppellAg93 said:

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Wow !

Tanya James, of Arkansas, crossed state lines to get to the #Kenosha courthouse where she suggests over a bullhorn that Kyle #Rittenhouse should have been killed.

“Kyle should have never made it to trial! Bring that bitch to my neck of the mother f—ing…” pic.twitter.com/SdVr1r0FUC

— Andy Ngô 🏳️‍🌈 (@MrAndyNgo) November 19, 2021

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Scum

aggiehawg said:

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Wait! I have stars now? I'm not a subscriber. Staff? Did I get a promotion?

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No one's ever bought me stars. But I'm kind of an *******, so no surprise there.

Rekieta and Branca talking about taking home the jury instructions.

BusterAg said:

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Add that to the list:

1) 5th amendment problems during Kyle's cross
2) 5th amendment problems about Mr. Z during prosecutions close (maybe?)
3) Prosecution knew the identity of jump-kick man and hid it. (Possible)
4) Blatant Brady violation on probably the most important piece of evidence in this case
5) Allowing Jury to take home charge (and possibly notes)
6) Subornation of perjury regarding the Khindri bros

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Possible INTENTIONAL manipulation of the prosecution's key piece of evidence.

aggiehawg said:

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Wait! I have stars now? I'm not a subscriber. Staff? Did I get a promotion?

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Congrats and very well deserved!

POLL: Is Kyle Rittenhouse a murderer or a hero?

— Tea Pain (@TeaPainUSA) November 19, 2021

Quick reminder to show your support. I know there's nothing less scientific than a Twitter poll but feels good to trigger some Karens and soyboys

Hawg: Could you please add the Odysee link for Rekieta's stream to the links? I'd like to see him get more traffic on alt-tech sites.

https://odysee.com/@RekietaLaw:a/LIVE:6dd

Throw out the cranks and convicted felons and there isn't much left of the BLM movement.

Pretty sure if the riots had taken place in Arkansas more folks would have gotten free shots for being feral animals.

Done. Thanks for the reminder.

I try a lot of cases. To juries. Civil, though, not criminal. Between cases I've presided over as judge and cases I've tried as counsel, I've come to know a lot about the jury process.

Almost always, at least on the civil side, every juror gets their own copy of the charge when it's read before closing arguments. I think they should. Even a "simple" charge is complicated and confusing to someone who hasn't seen one before.

And they get to take notes.

But they're not supposed to take their notes or the charge home with them. "The bailiff will keep your notes in a safe and secure location and will prompltly destroy them at the conclusion…" (I think that's the language). They're also instructed not to do any independent research.

We largely rely on faith they don't do outside research. Or figure out if they did (which is difficult), creating jury misconduct and mistrial. I don't think taking the charge home is that big a deal if they're going to do outside research, having the charge probably doesn't make that too much more likely.

Hopefully today is the day. As antsy I am, I can't imagine how Kyle is feeling.

Daily Wire commenting on jury instruction issue: https://www.dailywire.com/news/judge-allows-juror-to-take-home-full-jury-instructions-dismisses-defenses-objection?utm_campaign=dw_newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_source=housefile&utm_content=non_member

aggiehawg said:

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Rekieta and Branca talking about taking home the jury instructions.

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Good news is this judge apparently is highly aware of the internet criticism, so I look forward to hearing his reasoning here in a few minutes.

"Rittenhouse Walks 2A"

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buda91 said:

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I try a lot of cases. To juries. Civil, though, not criminal. Between cases I've presided over as judge and cases I've tried as counsel, I've come to know a lot about the jury process.

Almost always, at least on the civil side, every juror gets their own copy of the charge when it's read before closing arguments. I think they should. Even a "simple" charge is complicated and confusing to someone who hasn't seen one before.

And they get to take notes.

But they're not supposed to take their notes or the charge home with them. "The bailiff will keep your notes in a safe and secure location and will prompltly destroy them at the conclusion…" (I think that's the language). They're also instructed not to do any independent research.

We largely rely on faith they don't do outside research. Or figure out if they did (which is difficult), creating jury misconduct and mistrial. I don't think taking the charge home is that big a deal if they're going to do outside research, having the charge probably doesn't make that too much more likely.

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Strange. Been trying cases for 40 years. Never saw copies of the charge distributed. Just the original.

Dan Scott said:

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Hopefully today is the day. As antsy I am, I can't imagine how Kyle is feeling.

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I'd suspect he's feeling not all that bad. Certainly disliking the idea that he might have another trial. He might be optimistic that prejudice still coming into play like most of us do with our fingers crossed

How could a judge who has been there for nearly 40 years make such a mistake as to let them take the instructions home?

wbt5845 said:

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aggiehawg said:

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Wait! I have stars now? I'm not a subscriber. Staff? Did I get a promotion?

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No one's ever bought me stars. But I'm kind of an *******, so no surprise there.

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don't worry, many people have bought themselves stars to /ignore

You are doing your part to make TexAgs money!

trying 20 years, can't think of a time they didn't all have their own copy to read along with. but can't say I ever paid attention.

as for taking it home, thats very very strange to me. but as buda said, not sure it makes a difference. person is going to do research with or without it.

I think it's time to downgrade the jury menu and accommodations. They seem to be unnecessarily prolonging the deliberations, likely because the food is too good and hotel too posh. Switch to olive loaf sandwiches and stale baked lays and move them to the Super 8 on the edge of town and the verdict will quickly be reached.

TAMUallen said:

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CoppellAg93 said:

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Wow !

Tanya James, of Arkansas, crossed state lines to get to the #Kenosha courthouse where she suggests over a bullhorn that Kyle #Rittenhouse should have been killed.

“Kyle should have never made it to trial! Bring that bitch to my neck of the mother f—ing…” pic.twitter.com/SdVr1r0FUC

— Andy Ngô 🏳️‍🌈 (@MrAndyNgo) November 19, 2021

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Scum

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These are the real domestic terrorists

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and the baffling part is if she had watched any of the video evidence, and saw how kyle handled himself and his rifle when attacked, she might think twice about wishing for him to be brought to "her neck of the woods" because my money would be on kyle being the one to walk away from that engagement...

BusterAg said:

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Daily Wire commenting on jury instruction issue: https://www.dailywire.com/news/judge-allows-juror-to-take-home-full-jury-instructions-dismisses-defenses-objection?utm_campaign=dw_newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_source=housefile&utm_content=non_member

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from the article:

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While the traffic violation took place near the jury van, the freelancer never contacted or intended to contact the jurors during deliberations, and never photographed or intended to photograph them.

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Uh, OK.

isitjustme said:

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I think it's time to downgrade the jury menu and accommodations. They seem to be unnecessarily prolonging the deliberations, likely because the food is too good and hotel too posh. Switch to olive loaf sandwiches and stale baked lays and move them to the Super 8 on the edge of town and the verdict will quickly be reached.

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The nicest hotel in Kenosha appears to be a Candlewood Suites.

aggiehawg said:

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Wait! I have stars now? I'm not a subscriber. Staff? Did I get a promotion?

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They owe you a lifetime membership! Also some swag!

Be sure to check-in w/ us lol poors every now and then... winkie emoji

aggiehawg said:

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Wait! I have stars now? I'm not a subscriber. Staff? Did I get a promotion?

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You are the true #1 on this site in my book. You've deserved those stars for some time now.

Gator92 said:

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aggiehawg said:

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Wait! I have stars now? I'm not a subscriber. Staff? Did I get a promotion?

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They owe you a lifetime membership! Also some swag!

Be sure to check-in w/ us lol poors every now and then... winkie emoji

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Not so sure I would be welcome on the premium board.

buda91 said:

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I try a lot of cases. To juries. Civil, though, not criminal. Between cases I've presided over as judge and cases I've tried as counsel, I've come to know a lot about the jury process.

Almost always, at least on the civil side, every juror gets their own copy of the charge when it's read before closing arguments. I think they should. Even a "simple" charge is complicated and confusing to someone who hasn't seen one before.

And they get to take notes.

But they're not supposed to take their notes or the charge home with them. "The bailiff will keep your notes in a safe and secure location and will prompltly destroy them at the conclusion…" (I think that's the language). They're also instructed not to do any independent research.

We largely rely on faith they don't do outside research. Or figure out if they did (which is difficult), creating jury misconduct and mistrial. I don't think taking the charge home is that big a deal if they're going to do outside research, having the charge probably doesn't make that too much more likely.

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Thanks for the contribution Buda. Are you running in '22? Hoping against hope for a change in H Co. judiciary.

TAMUallen said:

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Dan Scott said:

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Hopefully today is the day. As antsy I am, I can't imagine how Kyle is feeling.

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I'd suspect he's feeling not all that bad. Certainly disliking the idea that he might have another trial. He might be optimistic that prejudice still coming into play like most of us do with our fingers crossed

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With the obfuscation of evidence and "iced" witnesses, another trial will be even MORE in Kyle's favor.

aggiehawg said:

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isitjustme said:

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I think it's time to downgrade the jury menu and accommodations. They seem to be unnecessarily prolonging the deliberations, likely because the food is too good and hotel too posh. Switch to olive loaf sandwiches and stale baked lays and move them to the Super 8 on the edge of town and the verdict will quickly be reached.

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The nicest hotel in Kenosha appears to be a Candlewood Suites.

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I had a deposition in Kenosha once. It's a dump.