Guitarsoup said:

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aggiehawg said:

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mkorzo said:

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Wonder what kind of independent research on the jury instructions Karen #54 did as she was burning the midnight oil.

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Because of that, I think it is more likely we see some action today. Not saying we get a verdict necessarily nor a declaration of a hung jury but jury misconduct could be on the menu.

I cannot stress how phenomenally bad of a decision it was for the judge to allow jury instructions to be taken home last evening. There could be a lot of ramifications today if jurors from each side took them with them and disobeyed the judge's orders and armed themselves with outside research. Schroeder practically invited such misconduct with that decision.

Colossal blunder.

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My question about that is this:

If there is a strong "Kyle Self-Defense" juror, when they start deliberating today, could that Pro-Kyle juror send a note to the judge saying that Juror 54 went home and googled the case to share more information with the jury and the judge dismiss that juror?

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probably wouldn't be a note. They'll just tell the bailiff who will alert the judge.

Fox News Radio this morning has been referring to Riddenhouse as "the teenager who shot 3 men, killing 2, during a 'social justice protest'".

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I have been thinking about how Binger and Krauss got to the decision to call the Khindri brothers in the first place. Whether Kyle was invited or not really doesn't play that much of a role in any element of the charges against him, so what was the point?

I really don't know. Spidey senses tell me that the Khindris may have some criminal exposure that Binger leveraged over them to get them to testify the way they did but then they kind of went south on them when actually on the stand.

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...That would be a charge of insurance fraud that leveraged the lie.

Any thoughts on whether verdict announcement is planned to be made during the morning (today or tomorrow), to keep riots in daylight hours?

NOT GUILTY

TRADUCTOR said:

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aggiehawg said:

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I have been thinking about how Binger and Krauss got to the decision to call the Khindri brothers in the first place. Whether Kyle was invited or not really doesn't play that much of a role in any element of the charges against him, so what was the point?

I really don't know. Spidey senses tell me that the Khindris may have some criminal exposure that Binger leveraged over them to get them to testify the way they did but then they kind of went south on them when actually on the stand.

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...That would be a charge of insurance fraud that leveraged the lie.

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Remember the testimony by one of the brothers that he had moved inventory (cars) out of state to a storage facility in Illinois? Have to wonder if any of those vehicles were "destroyed" during the rioting and included on the insurance claim??

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Brad06ag said:

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I'm really hoping they broke early to sleep on the verdict... otherwise leaving at 4 was ridiculous.

Come back with the verdict first thing this morning dammit.

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Karen 54 asking to take home the jury instructions pretty much confirms they haven't reached a verdict.

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Karen54.com is available. Where should I forward it to for maximum trolling?

The Rekieta feed's superchat on Youtube is hilarious. As soon as it it 8:45, everyone flew off the handle calling him "late" and other stuff.

I can't seem to find him live on any alt-tech platforms today. Shame.

Judge should pull all the jurors into the courtroom this morning and announce they will be sequestered until a verdict is reached

Branca:

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8:31 a.m.: I see FOX News is reporting that yesterday Rittenhouse defense told them that prosecution always knew who "jump kick man" was and withheld that information. More grounds for a mistrial? Kyle Rittenhouse trial: Identity of mysterious 'jump kick man' revealed

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DirectionalDriller said:

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Any thoughts on whether verdict announcement is planned to be made during the morning (today or tomorrow), to keep riots in daylight hours?

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Nope, we're day 4. The thought of this being done the way it has been out of respect for the backlash it might cause is now bunk

From what I gather (as a layperson) this jury is not coming to a decision any time soon. I just don't see anything but a hung jury. Hopefully the judge rules after that in a manner that keeps the DA from persecuting Kyle further.

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I know we have all bought into the Juror 54 scenario, but keep in mind that is still just a theory. A good one, but a theory.

What is certain is there is some sort of impasse. And I find it hard to fathom the impasse is anything other than a small number who want to convict KR of SOMETHING because they just don't like him, don't like what he did, etc.

Here's hoping the other jurors rise up against them today. Judge needs to force them to work tomorrow to start making it uncomfortable to accommodate the hold outs.

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I'm with you. As plausible as the theory sounds, I'm still going with 10-2, 9-3, 8-4 range that want their pound of bicep flesh out of Kyle. At the 2 or 3 range, they just huddle together in their little cocoon pointing to Little Binger and Butterbean evidence and just won't budge off that. Taking the orders home, they are hoping to burrow in deeper.

Hung jury is a pseudo win for Kyle, because he will have to live through another trial of this crap. I don't think the DA is going to let it go.

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I think the DA let's it go. You can't try a hail mary case twice. I looked, and even though it's a Democrat leaning county, they voted Trump in 2016 and 2020. I think a persecution instead of a prosecution of Kyle Rittenhouse might be a black eye for the DA with anyone on the fence, and the 2022 elections are expected to be a Republican landslide with low democratic turnout. I don't think he wants a local issue to galvanize Republican voters against him.

Even most of reddit thinks he's innocent, and that's coming from several subreddits including r\Wisconsin. I think only the truly hardcore liberals and antifa/blm types would want him tried again, and they're not enough to win an election.

Does this really end on a Friday?

Rekieta is live. Branca is with him.

Rekieta is live now and Branca is with him.

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Does this really end on a Friday?

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Friday afternoon? That would be a terrible, terrible time... But if it's some kind of split verdict bull**** they deserve it.

It's probably a 7 day free trial. Once she gets used to the Watchlist, she'll be hooked and will choose to pay

Hawg: Could you please add this Odysee link for Rekieta's stream to the original post?

https://odysee.com/@RekietaLaw:a/LIVE:6dd

Brad06ag said:

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aggiehawg said:

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Wait! I have stars now? I'm not a subscriber. Staff? Did I get a promotion?

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Aww, somebody is sweet on you and bought you a subscription. Good bull.

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It was me. I was trying to keep it a secret but it must have gotten out.

I bet the jury gets the dynamite charge today.

Wow !

Tanya James, of Arkansas, crossed state lines to get to the #Kenosha courthouse where she suggests over a bullhorn that Kyle #Rittenhouse should have been killed.

“Kyle should have never made it to trial! Bring that bitch to my neck of the mother f—ing…” pic.twitter.com/SdVr1r0FUC

— Andy Ngô 🏳️‍🌈 (@MrAndyNgo) November 19, 2021

Add that to the list:

1) 5th amendment problems during Kyle's cross
2) 5th amendment problems about Mr. Z during prosecutions close (maybe?)
3) Prosecution knew the identity of jump-kick man and hid it. (Possible)
4) Blatant Brady violation on probably the most important piece of evidence in this case
5) Manipulation of key piece of evidence, degrading quality and cropping out muzzle-flash (unproven)
6) Allowing Jury to take home charge (and possibly notes)
7) Subornation of perjury regarding the Khindri bros