aggiehawg said:

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Athanasius said:

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BlackLab said:

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This city and its government are crazy.

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Authorize the use of live fire rounds.

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Terrible idea.

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But that is what the anarchists want. That is what BLM wants. That is what the socialists want. And they know how to keep provoking until it is inevitable. Everyone else are just useful idiots and cannon fodder.

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I agree with you, but no where in the US Code is the death penalty prescribed for rioting. This just makes martyrs.

We have to be smarter.

Faster reaction. Containment. Pro-active engagement.

They look like they are dressed for roller a derby.

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I agree with you, but no where in the US Code is the death penalty prescribed for rioting.

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I'm thinking self defense might require shooting, were it your property being destroyed in a riot.

The good news is, you probably don't have to even shoot anyone. Or at least, not more than one.

I was under the impression that for the most part, the peaceful protesters try to wrap things up by sundown because anything goes after dark. Then again, I've seen a number of videos of mob attacks, burning police cars, looting, and so on during the day especially in the PNW. I know that if I wanted to make a point about appropriate use of force, I would try a time and place that wasn't in the middle of a violent riot and assault on federal officers and property.

Has anyone thought that we have infiltrated these organized crime groups with FBI agents? Remember when organized crime crosses state lines it becomes a federal crime. The federal govt. has all the authority to remove individuals based on intelligence. Nobody can truthfully say jack diddly squat about these "Secret Federal" agents/troops because nobody knows.

This will wash out.

You're not wrong, but you have to understand the local government in Portland and Seattle DO NOT WANT TO QUELL THESE RIOTS.

That is the root of this problem. Portland and Seattle have let antifa grow and fester the last ten years unabated.

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Portland mayor will not authorize the use of tear gas to disperse the mobs. The police are limited in what they can do. They basically have to just stand there and get pelted with projectiles. The mayor also wants to sue the DHS for trying to quell the riots.

The local government does not want to deal with it.

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That's the prerogative of the local government and the people that elected them.

Yes and no. Did those elected officials run on a platform of allowing wanton rioting? Hard to say that people want that until the next election comes around. Not exactly helpful at this time.

I'm definitely not for using a federal police force at all. At the same time, these cities need to step out of their PC/Election bubble and freaking do something. It's disgraceful how willing they are to let this stuff happen.

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chase128 said:

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Portland mayor will not authorize the use of tear gas to disperse the mobs. The police are limited in what they can do. They basically have to just stand there and get pelted with projectiles. The mayor also wants to sue the DHS for trying to quell the riots.

The local government does not want to deal with it.

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That's the prerogative of the local government and the people that elected them.

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Not when it comes to Federal buildings...

It's their duty to protect their people.

What happened to water cannons, beanbag guns and rubber bullets?

2021NCAggies said:

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What happened to water cannons, beanbag guns and rubber bullets?

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Mayor forbade their use as I understand it.

April 11, 1861

Dearest President Lincoln,

Despite your protestations to the contrary, the fine ladies and gentlemen of Charleston do not need your assistance in securing and protecting federal property. Your presence, or the presence of your troops, is unwanted and unwarranted in our great state or burgs. Kindly disavow yourself of any sentiments to the contrary.

Sincerely,

Mayor J. H. Goshorn
Charleston, South Carolina

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They're whooping and hollering because they know the officer won't shoot.

I predict at least one will, within the next two weeks.

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SoupNazi2001 said:

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Let them burn the city down but build a wall around the city and never let them out. Show others what the place turns into.

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Looks like they are focused on the fed courthouse building, so maybe build a wall around that? With moat.

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They put up a fairly hefty fence around it a few nights ago. Antifa tore it down anyway and used pieces as weapons.

Maybe claymores with a trip wire? (That's a joke, I think.)

2021NCAggies said:

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What happened to water cannons, beanbag guns and lead bullets?

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aggiehawg said:

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I agree, who had this on their 2020 Bingo card?

ETA: The irony of using ring around the rosie which was a reference to a physical sign of a plague pandemic is rich.

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those dorks brought the juice box and orange slice brigade with them. Pathetic. Go back to the basement.

Vader Was Framed said:

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SoupNazi2001 said:

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Let them burn the city down but build a wall around the city and never let them out. Show others what the place turns into.

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Looks like they are focused on the fed courthouse building, so maybe build a wall around that? With moat.

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And bring out the water cannons, beanbag guns and rubber bullets. On federal property the mayor shouldn't have a say.

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chase128 said:

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Portland mayor will not authorize the use of tear gas to disperse the mobs. The police are limited in what they can do. They basically have to just stand there and get pelted with projectiles. The mayor also wants to sue the DHS for trying to quell the riots.

The local government does not want to deal with it.

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That's the prerogative of the local government and the people that elected them.

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Not when the rioters are destroying federal property, teach.

The City of Portland has done nothing but bend over for these Neiman-Marxists and this is how they get repaid.

You have to have a heart of stone not to laugh.

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"Peaceful"

Put them all in jail!

GMaster0 said:

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The end result of what the federal government is trying to accomplish does not justify the means of their actions.

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Kinda like the protesters.

Except one is illegal and a could be a prison offense

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aggiehawg said:

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I agree, who had this on their 2020 Bingo card?

ETA: The irony of using ring around the rosie which was a reference to a physical sign of a plague pandemic is rich.

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those dorks brought the juice box and orange slice brigade with them. Pathetic. Go back to the basement.

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As long as those idiots aren't blocking traffic, that looks like a completely peaceful protest.

These White moms who break the law need to be prosecuted just like a black woman would.
Felons and their jail bond should be proportional to their wealth.

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aggiehawg said:

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I agree, who had this on their 2020 Bingo card?

ETA: The irony of using ring around the rosie which was a reference to a physical sign of a plague pandemic is rich.

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those dorks brought the juice box and orange slice brigade with them. Pathetic. Go back to the basement.

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As long as those idiots aren't blocking traffic, that looks like a completely peaceful protest.

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Is Dr Ding a member of the CCP?

dmart90 said:

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aggiehawg said:

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I agree, who had this on their 2020 Bingo card?

ETA: The irony of using ring around the rosie which was a reference to a physical sign of a plague pandemic is rich.

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those dorks brought the juice box and orange slice brigade with them. Pathetic. Go back to the basement.

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As long as those idiots aren't blocking traffic, that looks like a completely peaceful protest.

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After so many tries maybe they are starting to figure out how to do it right. We can only hope.

The rioters need to understand that there will come a time when a law enforcement officer whether city, county, state or federal will fear for their life and shoot to kill.

Are these rioters that dedicated to give up their life? I think not, they are urged on and becoming emboldened by the spineless Democrats controlling these cities.

Regrettably it will happen and some useful idiots will pay the price.

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The rioters need to understand that there will come a time when a law enforcement officer whether city, county, state or federal will fear for their life and shoot to kill.

Are these rioters that dedicated to give up their life? I think not, they are urged on and becoming emboldened by the spineless Democrats controlling these cities.

Regrettably it will happen and some useful idiots will pay the price.

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I found Navy-guy fascinating

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I saw an interview of him after the fact.

I found him looney.

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I also sense a set-up since the person filming from behind was in a perfect position to catch it. Reminds me of the Buffalo incident.

FTR: When being legally instructed to vacate the area, you don't get to walk up to LEOs to "ask a question." By definition, that action is in defiance of their lawful order.

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I'll go even further, when LEOs are in a dangerous situation they are going to create space. If that means posting someone out of the way, that someone being a person that is not following the novel concept of verbal and visual commands, then things go bad. They're not there to wrap people up for disorderly conduct, they're there to protect a facility.

I'm by no means trying to side one way or the other, but basing the argument about how a dude in a Navy sweatshirt got leg whipped with a baton, in order to create space, as the poster boy of peaceful protest is not going to win.

I really wish every reporter, or average citizen, could experience the concept of being armed and understanding that if someone gets close to you, it means that they are armed too. Make sense?

55 straight nights of anarchy. This is also occurring in Seattle, Chicago, St. Louis, NYC. All cities with Democratic leadership. If Biden should win, anarchy will spread to other cities. What is occurring is a preview of the future.

GMaster0 said:

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The end result of what the federal government is trying to accomplish does not justify the means of their actions.

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So to and the five people that starred it, what should they do just let them destroy property? What is your solution?