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Is the dips*** Portland Mayor going to allow the Portland Police to work alongside federal officers now? That would be a flip-flop. For the city council as well.

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I get the feeling each side is expecting something different from the other side than what is planned. This not likely to work out, IMO.

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Agree. No one appears to be on the same page at all. But because of the stupid governor's tweet, the rioters think the feds have gone and they can take the courthouse tonight.

Tonight could be nasty.

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Yeah, about that. How about you stick it where the sun don't shine.

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Barr was listing the number and manner of injuries to federal LEOs yesterday. What happens when city PD, sheriff's department and state police ranks are thinned by such injuries? Maybe a Blue Flu as they refuse to put themselves in dangerous situations?

How many other nearby law enforcement departments will send their people in to help?

That's the risk.

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Exactly. If the lynch mobs decide to try and burn the federal courthouse (which I suspect will happen in some measure) then the locals will accede to lynch mob demands. If I am a suburban or rural agency, why would I send officers or deputies into such a no-win situation?

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Hearing a rumor Antifa is coming to Austin on Sat

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Apparently, before dawn today, the Portland PD and Oregon State Police finally cleaned out the park across the street from the Justice Center where the nightly rioters were living and staging from.

Which of course is something they could have done 60 days ago.

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When it comes to setting the record straight on the anarchy and destruction happening in Portland, U.S. Attorney Billy Williams is not messing around.

Williams, who is the chief federal law enforcement official for Oregon, recently gave an interview outside Portland's battered Mark O. Hatfield federal courthouse where he took the wind out of the sails of a few reporters who had an angle to push.

The video of the interview, which I've linked below, is worth watching in its entirety. Here are some of the highlights:

When he was asked by one reporter what it was going to take to "turn the tide" in Portland, Williams made it clear that it wasn't up to law enforcement to come up with the solution to end the violence. Instead, he said, it was up to the community:

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WILLIAMS: Yeah, so what I think it's gonna take, this has to be a community solution. It's not a law enforcement solution, we're responding, dealing with it, protecting this property just like the city police are protecting city property, but any real solution to stop the mindless violence that goes on has to come from the community, and I include various community leaders, faith leaders, business leaders working with whoever wants to join in a coalition whatever you want to call that, the coalition of the willing, whatever.

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This led to a back and forth exchange between Williams and the reporter where it became clear the reporter was attempting to paint a picture of federal overreach, which is a common talking point used by Democrats:

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WILLIAMS: Yeah, the federal agents being here are protecting federal property, that is not accurate. Blaming federal agents for protecting federal property is an easy out for people who want to politicize this.
REPORTER 2: But are they protecting federal property when they're out on the streets?
WILLIAMS: They're not out on the streets, okay?
REPORTER 2: They were last night. They were out on the streets there's video of them outside of the fence we've seen them out on the streets.
WILLIAMS: Okay, so we can review what took them out there, but again, this is such an easy political out for people who want to politicize what's going on.

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When it comes to setting the record straight on the anarchy and destruction happening in Portland, U.S. Attorney Billy Williams is not messing around.

Williams, who is the chief federal law enforcement official for Oregon, recently gave an interview outside Portland's battered Mark O. Hatfield federal courthouse where he took the wind out of the sails of a few reporters who had an angle to push.

The video of the interview, which I've linked below, is worth watching in its entirety. Here are some of the highlights:

When he was asked by one reporter what it was going to take to "turn the tide" in Portland, Williams made it clear that it wasn't up to law enforcement to come up with the solution to end the violence. Instead, he said, it was up to the community:

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WILLIAMS: Yeah, so what I think it's gonna take, this has to be a community solution. It's not a law enforcement solution, we're responding, dealing with it, protecting this property just like the city police are protecting city property, but any real solution to stop the mindless violence that goes on has to come from the community, and I include various community leaders, faith leaders, business leaders working with whoever wants to join in a coalition whatever you want to call that, the coalition of the willing, whatever.

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This led to a back and forth exchange between Williams and the reporter where it became clear the reporter was attempting to paint a picture of federal overreach, which is a common talking point used by Democrats:

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WILLIAMS: Yeah, the federal agents being here are protecting federal property, that is not accurate. Blaming federal agents for protecting federal property is an easy out for people who want to politicize this.
REPORTER 2: But are they protecting federal property when they're out on the streets?
WILLIAMS: They're not out on the streets, okay?
REPORTER 2: They were last night. They were out on the streets there's video of them outside of the fence we've seen them out on the streets.
WILLIAMS: Okay, so we can review what took them out there, but again, this is such an easy political out for people who want to politicize what's going on.

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Fox said her grandson is currently on probation for a felony conviction when he was a minor. She said he spent the past two years at Rogue Valley Youth Correctional Facility in southern Oregon and recently talked of turning his life around, and getting a job at Amazon.

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Excellent post and link.

Unfortunately, I do not expect this community to listen. Again, it's the Democratic Party leadership aided and abetted by MSM that fuels the fires.

I hope I am wrong but I believe it will get worse, much worse in Portland and Seattle. There seems little indication the population in those cities understand the catastrophic implications of their political choices.

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