*** THE MATRIX 4 ***

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Fat Bib Fortuna
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TCTTS said:

The cat's out of bag. We've ALREADY talked about this potential plot point multiple times here, yet you seemingly had no issue with it then.

Also, yes, a character in the digital world referencing something called "The Matrix" - out in the open, and not in the shadows - is a pretty big clue something different is up this go-around.


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Deja vu for me as well...
TCTTS
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Brian Earl Spilner said:

It's been discussed because you post all the insider details you find (without spoiler tags) and I smartly avoided all of it.

IT WASN'T A SPOILER. It was (and still is) unconfirmed, second-and-third-hand, I-heard-from-some-guy chit chat. Long before we implemented the "Spilner Rule," where we all have to tip-toe around your ultra-delicate, not-really-a-spoiler sensibilities on a public message board, where movies and theories and rumors are discussed months and months in advance of the final product. Yes, there's an onus on the community here to not post highly sensitive plot points. We can all agree on that. But what's truly maddening is your constant and incessant need to demand what *you* deem spoilers not be discussed in any way, shape, or form here, while continuing to post on and read a public message board where all kinds of little tidbits and rumors and theories are naturally going to be discussed, and have a probability of turning out to be true.
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Once again, TCTTS says something isn't a spoiler. Therefore it is not a spoiler.

It has been decreed by the decider.
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Ha, and you deciding that it IS a spoiler is just as arrogant. How do you not see that?
Brian Earl Spilner
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Quote:

But what's truly maddening is your constant and incessant need to demand what *you* deem spoilers not be discussed in any way, shape, or form here, while continuing to post on and read a public message board where all kinds of little tidbits and rumors and theories are naturally going to be discussed, and have a probability of turning out to be true.


You, me, and a lot of others literally agreed to it not even 2 weeks ago. And it was fairly clear.

Any plot information that is coming from insider sources and has not been officially confirmed by marketing or anywhere else should be in spoiler tags, even if just rumor.

Most of those, especially when coming from "unconfirmed reports", "reliable sources" or whatever the hell else you want to call them, usually end up being true.

But I guess this was an exception because it was discussed before? (Probably posted by you, but I have no idea.) But even then, you realize not everyone reads every single page of a thread, right?

This is not about you vs me. It's just common courtesy to which we'd already agreed.
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Quote:

But what's truly maddening is your constant and incessant need to demand what *you* deem spoilers not be discussed in any way, shape, or form here, while continuing to post on and read a public message board where all kinds of little tidbits and rumors and theories are naturally going to be discussed, and have a probability of turning out to be true.


Also, nice hyperbole brah. This is about spoiler tags.
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Guys, please don't fight.

We're all friends here.
TCTTS
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Months and months ago, some random dude on Twitter talked about how he heard from a friend of a friend or something who had reportedly auditioned for the movie. And the audition was apparently for the role of someone playing a Matrix video game in the movie. That's it. That's all we had to go on. So I mentioned it here as a "what if" point of discussion, as one does on a message board thread about a movie before it even goes into production, literally years before it even hits theaters. I'm sorry, but no rational person would require spoiler tags on such a clearly obvious game of telephone that far in advance. It was just pure conjecture/rumor at that point, no one here had a single issue with it being discussed, and, like I said, we discussed it for a good long while publicly. But according to you, nope, to use your own language, the Spilner decree doth declare that a blatant "spoiler," we have to shroud it in spoiler tags, and can only discuss vague rumors now in the shadows, so as to preserve the pure, virgin experience of someone who actively chooses to participate in public movie discussion all day every day, months in advance of those movies hitting theaters.

Still, I agreed to the "rules" two weeks ago, as ridiculous as they can be in certain instances, and I should have used spoiler tags accordingly. In this particular case, however, when someone pointed out the particular thing they pointed out, in regards to something a number of us already talked about publicly in this very thread, I figured it was fine to mention again. For someone such as yourself, who posts here as much as you do, it really is odd what you selectively claim to read and not read. You seem to do this in a lot of threads. You post in them perhaps more than anyone else, but when we mention that something has already been discussed - spoiler or not - you never seem to recall that conversation when it conveniently fits your position.
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I generally skip over any single tweet that you post, for this exact reason. Because they can't be spoiler-tagged.

Further, if something from an audition is seemingly confirmed in a trailer, all the more reason to use the tags since the info is true.
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You respond to me all the time, and I to you, and you clearly read the things I post. Yet you somehow psychically know in advance which of my posts are going to contain spoilers or not and avoid them? Even though, in reality, maybe less than five percent of what I post has anything to do with rumors, and I never, ever post real, tried-and-true spoilers?
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Gents.
Brian Earl Spilner
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Therein lies our issue. You think only confirmed info is a spoiler. And my idea of a spoiler is as laid out above.

Since most of your information is coming from someone that's connected to the movie somehow, knows someone, or has seen it. Not from a random nobody with a Twitter handle.
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Y'all see this? This is y'all

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Moving on...

Just realized I'll be in the Hollywood FL (Miami) area when this comes out, and I found a good AMC theater which will have the choice of IMAX Laser or Dolby.

I've only done Dolby once before (and it was actually for The Matrix), which was awesome. Never done IMAX Laser.

Which of the two would you go with?
BenFiasco14
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Huh? Would you mind PMing me a link that explains this in more detail?

ETA: I completely missed the subsequent slap fight. For the record, I'm interested in this theory and would just like to read about it in more detail.
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TNNCS has been a highly valued member of this board for years.

The disrespect in this thread is ridiculous. I think posters know that, but I feel for the lurkers who might become confused about whom to trust.

Hollywood insiders provide valuable and timely information, as I've also done for literally 2 decades (Spring 1999, Blocker computer lab).

Let's all calm down, and respect decent and proven knowledge and analysis.
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It wasn't just one link. It ended up being two or three different reports, from various Tweets. I'll have to go back and find it all, as this was back in like 2019 I think.
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TCTTS said:

It wasn't just one link. It ended up being two or three different reports, from various Tweets. I'll have to go back and find it all, as this was back in like 2019 I think.


No worries. I'll just do some googling later. Thanks
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It's also a huge challenge to constantly switch back and forth between my TNNCS and Redstone accounts to make it look like we're two different people. I wish people appreciated the effort more that I put into keeping up the ruse.
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I hit refresh immediately after post and my post is blue. Exactly as it should be.
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You should not be compelled to utilize spoiler tags. They should only be used for info. that is clearly a spoiler, which you don't really post, especially given your connections.
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I was an early adopter of posting fan theories on the TexAgs entertainment board.

One of the first, actually.

Also only member who had his own thread praising his calling of the end of Game of Thrones on page 1 of the season 1 thread.
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Fat Bib Fortuna
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Here's a summation of the last few pages of this thread told in Matrix gifs


TC and Brian missing each other's points.




Brian finding out about spoilers on TexAgs by accident.



TC reading Brian's spoiler guide for dummies



Redstone shows up.

TCTTS
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First TV spot just aired during Cowboys/Bucs. No new footage, though.
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TCTTS said:

First TV spot just aired during Cowboys/Bucs. No new footage, though.


Then the Cowboys IMMEDIATELY got a turnover.

Coincidence? I think not.

Sorry to Spilner if he's not watching the Cowboys game and was recording it to watch later.
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Brian Earl Spilner
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I generally don't ask people to not post spoilers for stuff that's already aired. Unlike TC...
Fat Bib Fortuna
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Greg Zuerlein sucks
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Make that TWO TURNOVERS for the Cowboys.

Apologies to Spilner who may have been recording the game to watch later
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Gnosticism time again! So, Gen X and Millennial nostalgia is going to flood the movie market with remakes and returns just like Robocop and so much else?

At least when the Boomers ripped off older IP, talents like Led Zeppelin and the Stones molded enduring art.
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Something about the action scenes bothered me. It looked like a lot of poor CGI. Could just be because I watched it on my laptop, or maybe it was intentionally done as homage to bad CGI in the two sequels.
 
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