*** THE MATRIX 4 ***

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Plus a surefure hit with Wonder Woman 84 in the can.
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WW84, In the Heights, Tenet, Godzilla vs Kong, and Dune this year.

The Matrix 4, The Batman, Space Jam 2, and The Suicide Squad next year.

Quite a big-name slate for WB over the next two years.
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I went down a Matrix rabbit hole yesterday (pun intended), trying to figure out where they could be going with this. Any thoughts?

I heard one theory that Neo and Trinity's "code" remained in the Matrix, where they could remain alive without bodies in the real world. (ie. cached) I wouldn't hate that. In fact, you could run with the theme of whether or not they're still human, or just simulations of humans.

Or, what if they've been turned into "agents" for the machines? (Using their old bodies, and maybe even with Neo's abilities, but maybe as agents for the machines this time.)

In any case, it's Trinity that's really throwing me for a loop. Neo can be fairly easily explained, given that he was the One, became part of The Source, etc. Trinity was just a regular human who physically died in the real world.
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https://v.redd.it/5i61l0gdl3i41
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The machines can't reproduce consciousnesses, at least not in the first 3 movies. Perhaps since the Merovingian is in this one, maybe he has some way to catch their "soul" or consciousness as it leaves the matrix when they die in the Matrix.
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Heh...
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TCTTS said:


Let's get that de-aging software to work on Trinity's face.
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She looks good to me.
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Brian Earl Spilner said:

I went down a Matrix rabbit hole yesterday (pun intended), trying to figure out where they could be going with this. Any thoughts?

I heard one theory that Neo and Trinity's "code" remained in the Matrix, where they could remain alive without bodies in the real world. (ie. cached) I wouldn't hate that. In fact, you could run with the theme of whether or not they're still human, or just simulations of humans.

Or, what if they've been turned into "agents" for the machines? (Using their old bodies, and maybe even with Neo's abilities, but maybe as agents for the machines this time.)

In any case, it's Trinity that's really throwing me for a loop. Neo can be fairly easily explained, given that he was the One, became part of The Source, etc. Trinity was just a regular human who physically died in the real world.

Ever since the first set pics a couple weeks ago with Neo and Trinity in the real world, I figured they had to be digital remnants of some kind, as opposed to somehow being resurrected in the real world. So yeah, I think it'll be something along the lines of their "code" or digital selves are still "alive" in the Matrix, which I think is a cool way to go. I think Trinity can easily be explained as either being "cached" somehow from previous builds, or maybe Neo somehow brought her back best he could, from memory. I can see Neo's actual consciousness having melded with the Matrix somehow while Trinity could be more of a 95% facsimile copy or program - something along those lines. Either way, I definitely do not want either of them to still be alive in the real world, which was my initial worry before we started seeing all these pics.

Other than that, I seriously have no idea what this movie is about. Like, absolutely no clue.

Rumors persist that Yahya Abdul-Mateen is playing a young Morpheus, but I hope that's not the case. Based on his Instagram, he's currently in San Fransisco as well...

https://instagr.am/p/B8uc0tgA0E8

...so hopefully whatever he's filming is in the same computer/Matrix world timeline as the older Neo and Trinity we keep seeing on the streets of SF, as opposed to some past, pre-first movie timeline.
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Texaggie7nine said:

The machines can't reproduce consciousnesses, at least not in the first 3 movies. Perhaps since the Merovingian is in this one, maybe he has some way to catch their "soul" or consciousness as it leaves the matrix when they die in the Matrix.


Did he control the train station?

(Seriously, the second movie was full of such awesome philosophical **** and deep ideas. Thanks #3 for ****ing it all up)
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Why is John Wick riding on the back of a motorcycle?
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Cuz trinity is a badass killing machine?
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Not to mention she hacked the IRS dbase.

Edit: meant thumbs up
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Yes. He controlled everything outside the "rules" of the machines.
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Bruce Almighty said:

TCTTS said:




Why is John Wick riding on the back of a motorcycle?
And why is he with KD Lang?
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KD Lang ....
Now I can't unsee this
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This gets me excited...


https://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/1133210-chad-stahelski-david-leitch-returning-for-the-matrix-4
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@39:25, Chad lets slip that Laurence Fishburne is returning. He plays it off as a slip-up, but I think he realized his mistake and tried to backtrack on it.
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Ha, yeah, definitely feels like a slip-up.
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https://variety.com/2020/film/news/matrix-4-filming-extended-shutdown-coronavirus-1234606328/
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This is all very meta since it's now clear we're actually living in the Matrix.
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2020/05/14/matrix-keanu-reeves-john-wick-star-wars-shrek-deadpool-godzilla-spiral-saw-box-office/#35f58ab47aa7
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If not incorporating John Wick into story, not with it.
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They just need to roll this, tenet, and avatars 2-15 into one long movie, im already worn about hearing a whole lot of nothing about all 3
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https://theplaylist.net/john-wick-filmmaker-chad-stahelski-talks-matrix-4-and-says-lana-wachowski-understands-what-the-fans-want-20200530
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https://collider.com/the-matrix-4-keanu-reeves-why-he-came-back
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Loved the first one.
Second one was a bunch of kicking and flying.
Third one was terrible.
No interest in paying money to see the fourth.
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Well now i need "really" clarification, TC!
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TCTTS said:


https://theplaylist.net/john-wick-filmmaker-chad-stahelski-talks-matrix-4-and-says-lana-wachowski-understands-what-the-fans-want-20200530
I'm trying to think of a time where the phrase "understanding what the fans want" lead to a good movie/tv show. Not that I am naysaying this movie because of it either.
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Yeah, good point. As a fan, I don't even know what *I* want from this franchise. Just... a good movie? That's it, really.
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https://theplaylist.net/bill-pope-stanley-kubrick-matrix-issues-20200714/
 
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