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Dang Rangers
Is that singer a family friend of the owner.
"That was turrible" - Roseanne Barr
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"That was turrible" - Roseanne Barr
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Fergie vibes were in the building tonight
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Hey South OKC, y'all got any of them players for sale? Trade deadline coming up….
Garcia .. one or two of those guys and our staff is much better .. Verlander will be back soon any way… Garcia is a maybe .. Lance .. not gonna hold my breath that guy may want to retireDallasAg 94 said:
Who?
Verlander. When is he due back?
LMJ? Bullpen arm at best.
I'm not aware of anyone else you will be getting back. Maybe I'm wrong.
Brown vs Lorenzen? Have you paid attention to what Brown has done since he started throwing a sinker in May? 5 of last 8 starts have been at least 6 innings with no runs. For comparison, Lorenzen has 2 starts like that all season. Brown had a horrible April, but since May, I guarantee you, he would be in anyone's playoff rotation.DallasAg 94 said:Do you really believe that?!fullback44 said:
Neither of these teams will get very far.. pitching not what it takes at this point .. much better teams right now
It is the tale of two diverging views, IMO.
Starting Pitching:
6. Rangers: 3.81, 96G, 510.1 IP, 455 SO. 10 SPs used so far
10. Astros: 4.24, 96G, 511.2 IP, 483 SO. 10 SPs used so far
Playoff rotation right now:
Rangers: Eovaldi, Scherzer, Lorenzen / depth: Heaney, Gray, Urena
Astros: Blanco, Framber, Brown / depth: Arrighetti, Dubin, Bloss
Possibly coming
Rangers: Mahle, deGrom, Bradford, Dunning
Astros: Garcia, Verlander
Blanco is playoff worthy, this season, but you have to admit, Framber and Brown wouldn't even be in the Top6 available Rangers SP and we're likely to get Mahle back in a couple weeks.
Let's pretend that Blanco and Eovaldi are close enough to call a wash.
Scherzer v Framber?
Lorenzen v Brown?
Your #4 and #5 are both minor league guys. If Verlander gets back, maybe we're mentioning him sliding in your playoff rotation.
ETA Garcia to the Astros hopefuls.
Assuming a 3-person playoff rotation... if JV OR Garcia return... does Brown make the Astros playoff rotation?AlwaysNextYear89 said:
Brown vs Lorenzen? Have you paid attention to what Brown has done since he started throwing a sinker in May? 5 of last 8 starts have been at least 6 innings with no runs. For comparison, Lorenzen has 2 starts like that all season. Brown had a horrible April, but since May, I guarantee you, he would be in anyone's playoff rotation.
We'll see how he continues to perform.
DallasAg 94 said:Assuming a 3-person playoff rotation... if JV OR Garcia return... does Brown make the Astros playoff rotation?AlwaysNextYear89 said:
Brown vs Lorenzen? Have you paid attention to what Brown has done since he started throwing a sinker in May? 5 of last 8 starts have been at least 6 innings with no runs. For comparison, Lorenzen has 2 starts like that all season. Brown had a horrible April, but since May, I guarantee you, he would be in anyone's playoff rotation.
We'll see how he continues to perform.
If he pitches like he has been he'll be our #1.
And if deGrom pitches like he has, he'll be our #1.Farmer1906 said:DallasAg 94 said:Assuming a 3-person playoff rotation... if JV OR Garcia return... does Brown make the Astros playoff rotation?AlwaysNextYear89 said:
Brown vs Lorenzen? Have you paid attention to what Brown has done since he started throwing a sinker in May? 5 of last 8 starts have been at least 6 innings with no runs. For comparison, Lorenzen has 2 starts like that all season. Brown had a horrible April, but since May, I guarantee you, he would be in anyone's playoff rotation.
We'll see how he continues to perform.
If he pitches like he has been he'll be our #1.
DallasAg 94 said:And if deGrom pitches like he has, he'll be our #1.Farmer1906 said:DallasAg 94 said:Assuming a 3-person playoff rotation... if JV OR Garcia return... does Brown make the Astros playoff rotation?AlwaysNextYear89 said:
Brown vs Lorenzen? Have you paid attention to what Brown has done since he started throwing a sinker in May? 5 of last 8 starts have been at least 6 innings with no runs. For comparison, Lorenzen has 2 starts like that all season. Brown had a horrible April, but since May, I guarantee you, he would be in anyone's playoff rotation.
We'll see how he continues to perform.
If he pitches like he has been he'll be our #1.
Like he has in 2024?
DallasAg 94 said:Assuming a 3-person playoff rotation... if JV OR Garcia return... does Brown make the Astros playoff rotation?AlwaysNextYear89 said:
Brown vs Lorenzen? Have you paid attention to what Brown has done since he started throwing a sinker in May? 5 of last 8 starts have been at least 6 innings with no runs. For comparison, Lorenzen has 2 starts like that all season. Brown had a horrible April, but since May, I guarantee you, he would be in anyone's playoff rotation.
We'll see how he continues to perform.
This question still cracks me up.
American League ERA leaderboard since May 5:
— Chandler Rome (@Chandler_Rome) July 24, 2024
Garrett Crochet: 1.76
Corbin Burnes: 2.27
Hunter Brown: 2.51
Farmer1906 said:DallasAg 94 said:Assuming a 3-person playoff rotation... if JV OR Garcia return... does Brown make the Astros playoff rotation?AlwaysNextYear89 said:
Brown vs Lorenzen? Have you paid attention to what Brown has done since he started throwing a sinker in May? 5 of last 8 starts have been at least 6 innings with no runs. For comparison, Lorenzen has 2 starts like that all season. Brown had a horrible April, but since May, I guarantee you, he would be in anyone's playoff rotation.
We'll see how he continues to perform.
This question still cracks me up.American League ERA leaderboard since May 5:
— Chandler Rome (@Chandler_Rome) July 24, 2024
Garrett Crochet: 1.76
Corbin Burnes: 2.27
Hunter Brown: 2.51
Since Hunter learned his new pitch he has been lights out, he may now be one of Houston's Top pitchers ..
Just need to win 4 in a row to be above .500 before Aug.
So will the Rangers sell, hold, or buy? I'll guess 45/40/15 (%) just watching from afar.
Does the front office feel any pressure at all to make the playoffs in response to last year (avoid any fluke talk), or at least not appear to throw in the towel so soon after a trophy? I get injuries, but everyone has that excuse. Many of the hitters who overachieved last year have regressed this year, so maybe they can point to that as a reason to hold the line and reset in '25.
Does the front office feel any pressure at all to make the playoffs in response to last year (avoid any fluke talk), or at least not appear to throw in the towel so soon after a trophy? I get injuries, but everyone has that excuse. Many of the hitters who overachieved last year have regressed this year, so maybe they can point to that as a reason to hold the line and reset in '25.
Farmer1906 said:
Just need to win 4 in a row to be above .500 before Aug.
All they have to do is beat Toronto today and sweep StL all on the road. They got this.
Seems like an unbalanced trade for Kristy Yamaguchi. I don't follow Houston game by game but thought Loperfido was a pretty tough out and had some clutch HR this season.
South Platte said:
Seems like an unbalanced trade for Kristy Yamaguchi. I don't follow Houston game by game but thought Loperfido was a pretty tough out and had some clutch HR this season.
Loperfido strikes out a ton. He's up to 35% K rate. He's a plus defender with some pop. Probably a 4th OF long term. Bloss was the big loss. #2 prospect in our system. Young with 6+ years of control
Fightin' Texas Aggie and Sam Houston State Bearkat
bearkatag15 said:South Platte said:
Seems like an unbalanced trade for Kristy Yamaguchi. I don't follow Houston game by game but thought Loperfido was a pretty tough out and had some clutch HR this season.
Loperfido strikes out a ton. He's up to 35% K rate. He's a plus defender with some pop. Probably a 4th OF long term. Bloss was the big loss. #2 prospect in our system. Young with 6+ years of control
Loperfido doesn't even have a full season in the majors yet, I would expect his K-rate to come down a bit as he matures and gets more experience.
I have less concern about losing Bloss. There are always young arms to be found. Even not-so-young. Hell, look at Caleb Ort. Dude's like 32 and has a grand total of about 60 innings pitched in the majors but he's out there shoving 99 and shutting people down. Look at Ronel Blanco and Cristian Javier. I have plenty of faith that the scouts can find arms.
End of July Records / Final
2017: 50-55 / 78-84
2018: 46-63 / 67-95
2019: 54-54 / 78-84
2021: 37-67 / 60-102
2022: 46-55 / 68-94
2023: 60-46 / 90-72
2024: 52-57 / On pace for 77-85
If you can win 27 more games, you'll have 2nd best record over your last 8 seasons. 30 more and you can get above .500!
2017: 50-55 / 78-84
2018: 46-63 / 67-95
2019: 54-54 / 78-84
2021: 37-67 / 60-102
2022: 46-55 / 68-94
2023: 60-46 / 90-72
2024: 52-57 / On pace for 77-85
If you can win 27 more games, you'll have 2nd best record over your last 8 seasons. 30 more and you can get above .500!
You went to way too much trouble to post all of that. Would have been more accurate for you to post that our team sucks balls. Which it does . . .Farmer1906 said:
End of July Records / Final
2017: 50-55 / 78-84
2018: 46-63 / 67-95
2019: 54-54 / 78-84
2021: 37-67 / 60-102
2022: 46-55 / 68-94
2023: 60-46 / 90-72
2024: 52-57 / On pace for 77-85
If you can win 27 more games, you'll have 2nd best record over your last 8 seasons. 30 more and you can get above .500!
I was curious about the Astros at this point and saw an opportunity.
Just went back through wRC+ numbers from today vs. one year ago by position. Every Rangers position, with exception of 3B, is down at least 20 points.
— Evan Grant (@Evan_P_Grant) July 31, 2024
The catching position is down an astounding 55 points from 120 in 2023 to 65 entering today. It's been abominable.
Seems like last year was a stroke a great luck where everyone played at or near their peak.
Farmer1906 said:Just went back through wRC+ numbers from today vs. one year ago by position. Every Rangers position, with exception of 3B, is down at least 20 points.
— Evan Grant (@Evan_P_Grant) July 31, 2024
The catching position is down an astounding 55 points from 120 in 2023 to 65 entering today. It's been abominable.
Seems like last year was a stroke a great luck where everyone played at or near their peak.
And they got a World Series without the help of a trash can.
Lt. Joe Bookman said:Farmer1906 said:Just went back through wRC+ numbers from today vs. one year ago by position. Every Rangers position, with exception of 3B, is down at least 20 points.
— Evan Grant (@Evan_P_Grant) July 31, 2024
The catching position is down an astounding 55 points from 120 in 2023 to 65 entering today. It's been abominable.
Seems like last year was a stroke a great luck where everyone played at or near their peak.
And they got a World Series without the help of a trash can.
So did the Astros in 2022
That's typically what it takes. You need journeymen to have career years. Which is probably why there haven't been any repeat champions in 25 years.Farmer1906 said:Just went back through wRC+ numbers from today vs. one year ago by position. Every Rangers position, with exception of 3B, is down at least 20 points.
— Evan Grant (@Evan_P_Grant) July 31, 2024
The catching position is down an astounding 55 points from 120 in 2023 to 65 entering today. It's been abominable.
Seems like last year was a stroke a great luck where everyone played at or near their peak.
I guess that juice is out of their system.
Being an Astros fan… our entire division may be running out of juice, don't see any of these teams making any serious threat unless a lot of things change .. but it probably ain't happeningSatellite of Love said:
I guess that juice is out of their system.
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did he just say astros?🤔 #StraightUpTX pic.twitter.com/muSyvV9sE9
— Abigail Villafuerte (@avillafuerte25) August 3, 2024
Rent. Free.
Trust me, all Ranger fans stand with you as you stand against Dave Raymond
It's beyond time to move on from Dave Raymond
It's no secret. Our TV broadcast has sucked ass ever since Nolan fired Josh Lewin. Nolan should've just stuck to his beef, cooking hot dogs, and getting fatter.
Legal Custodian said:
Trust me, all Ranger fans stand with you as you stand against Dave Raymond
Who said I'm against it?
I have to mute the radio during Nolan's ads. Sounds like has a mouth full of marbles. It's terrible.
2/3 for the silver boot tonight. This is likely the only trophy either one of us can with this year
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