quote:Thunderrefs has to be the best/worst name for a Team/Ref combo. I refuse to believe this is a thing. I can't help but smile while thinking about people saying this aloud.
it's why people call them the Thunderrefs
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quote:Not me. Down by 1, you want Duncan Parker Leonard Aldridge Manu, on a play where Parker and Aldridge create a pick and roll advantage and Manu / Tim crash for a tip in. . Mills and Green being in there in a situation where you're likely to get a contested shot is bad news.
No question about the no call; horrible job of officiating.
Having said that, down one and coming up with a steal and 10 or so seconds on the clock -- SA, as an offense, had the advantage. OKC D didn't have time to set up and was in total scramble mode. Call or no call, SA got/would have got the ball either way; the argument is only about semantics. I'd personally rather have it in a scramble situation than give OKC the chance to set up their defense.
Manu is being a class act in his post game interview.
That was a devastatingly bad missed call. Have we figured out exactly what it should have been? Offensive foul, plain turnover with no foul, or tech?
I actually think there was at least one more missed call on that possession as Mills appeared to have been fouled by Adams on the shot, and something happened with Aldridge on the rebound and attempted putback, but you're much less likely to get that particular call in an endgame situation.
Even with the ref screwups on that play, the Spurs should have won. If Danny had passed to Manu, or a little lower to Patty, they win. Manu also should have put it up instead of kicking it to Patty.
Regarding the play up to that possession, as well as Westbrook and Durant played, the key to me for OKC was Adams dominating the paint, especially thru the first 3 quarters. Tim and West just couldn't win their battles against him. Tim did do a better job on the boards down the stretch.
I actually think there was at least one more missed call on that possession as Mills appeared to have been fouled by Adams on the shot, and something happened with Aldridge on the rebound and attempted putback, but you're much less likely to get that particular call in an endgame situation.
Even with the ref screwups on that play, the Spurs should have won. If Danny had passed to Manu, or a little lower to Patty, they win. Manu also should have put it up instead of kicking it to Patty.
Regarding the play up to that possession, as well as Westbrook and Durant played, the key to me for OKC was Adams dominating the paint, especially thru the first 3 quarters. Tim and West just couldn't win their battles against him. Tim did do a better job on the boards down the stretch.
Oh well, spurs lost a close game 2 to the heat in 2014, time to repeat what happened after and win the next two at OKC.
That's what hurts the most. Even with the missed call, Spurs close out that last 10 second segment 9 times out of 10 on any given night.
quote:Five second violation before any contact happened.
Have we figured out exactly what it should have been?
Ignore the five second violation turnovers and the contact is a technical. Spurs should have had a FT+ball.
Kenny, Shaq and Chuck are still debating it. None of them have seen anything like that.
This was my first thougt. Blowout win, followed by a close loss, then three straight wins.
I will take the sacrifice and have their seats
Adams was just setting an illegal screen on her too.
Side rant, does it annoy anyone else when fans of teams justify a close loss with "we didn't deserve to win." It irritates the crap out of me. It's like some weird coping mechanism to not make the loss feel as painful I guess? How is any one team more deserving than another especially if the game was close enough to come down to 1 point? I'll see it a lot when there's a controversial ending, like tonight, If a ref blows a call they try to imply it didn't matter because the team didn't "deserve" the call. Drives me freaking crazy.
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Adams was just setting an illegal screen on her too.
How do you react after an Aggie loss in football?
It's weird because I feel about as confident as I would if the Spurs were up 2-0. Cause I really thought OKC would be no worse than down 2-1 headed to game 4. I think the Spurs will roll them if they can put together 4 quarters.
Then they still get a shot at the knockout blow in game 4. You'd hope the NBA is going to assign the most Spurs friendly officials in history to game 3 anyway. Just to have some semblance of decency.
It would've been nice to have this game as an extra mulligan but the Spurs need a sharp game again soon if they're going to generate any rhythm toward something more meaningful than a deep playoff exit.
Then they still get a shot at the knockout blow in game 4. You'd hope the NBA is going to assign the most Spurs friendly officials in history to game 3 anyway. Just to have some semblance of decency.
It would've been nice to have this game as an extra mulligan but the Spurs need a sharp game again soon if they're going to generate any rhythm toward something more meaningful than a deep playoff exit.
Pretty indifferent at this point. I think basketball games tend to create more drama due to the nature of the game. It's hard to beat the crushing feeling of .04, Manu foul against dallas, or game 6. I used to get really upset at A&M football losses but I'm pretty numb to it now.
Yeah this isn't that way at all. I mean OKC gifted those 3 FT near the end anyway. Most times the Spurs would not hit that shot and would still be down 4 without enough time left.
How many violations can an inbounder make on a single inbound without it getting called?
1. brings ball across the line without passing
2. clears out Ginobili
3. five second violation
4. jumped up to throw it
Did I miss any?
Also, while he was attempting to inbound, Westbrook was running out of bounds.
1. brings ball across the line without passing
2. clears out Ginobili
3. five second violation
4. jumped up to throw it
Did I miss any?
Also, while he was attempting to inbound, Westbrook was running out of bounds.
I didn't think it was a full 5 seconds. It was close though.
quote:When the contact happens he is nowhere near the line. Go back to your bayou circle jerkquote:keep avoiding that you were dead ass wrong about ginobili being over the line, clown
Yeah this isn't that way at all. I mean OKC gifted those 3 FT near the end anyway. Most times the Spurs would not hit that shot and would still be down 4 without enough time left.
quote:Presumably he was talking about when the contact was made, which was the subject of the controversy and discussion. Manu wasn't close to over the line when the push off happened.quote:not even close?quote:Ginobili definitely wasn't over the line. It wasn't even close.
And replay shows that token and maggie are full of ****. What else is new?
Fast forward to :11 seconds. the dude is on the line
quote:Safe to say that if you're Donovan, Waiters should definitely lose his inbounding privileges.
How many violations can an inbounder make on a single inbound without it getting called?
1. brings ball across the line without passing
2. clears out Ginobili
3. five second violation
4. jumped up to throw it
Did I miss any?
Also, while he was attempting to inbound, Westbrook was running out of bounds.
Spurs will be alright. Come back strong in game 3.
The rule I'm talking about is that you can't even have your foot on the line to begin with, much less have your arm over the line.
Says the choke city fan trolling the Spurs thread.
quote:quote:keep avoiding that you were dead ass wrong about ginobili being over the line, clown
Yeah this isn't that way at all. I mean OKC gifted those 3 FT near the end anyway. Most times the Spurs would not hit that shot and would still be down 4 without enough time left.
Token - Just a word of advice...when you're in a deep hole, stop digging.
The most disappointing player for the Spurs so far is Patty. Tim is next. Those 2 can't play like spares against this team for 6-7 games if the Spurs don't want this to go to the wire.
Tim + Patty + Tony went 6/26 on FG. And most those shots were uncontested.
Tim + Patty + Tony went 6/26 on FG. And most those shots were uncontested.
That happens in almost every game and is a "play on" 99 times out of 100. Even in the rare (virtually nonexistent when it's a case of a defender stepping on the line for a millisecond and then pullingnit back) case where it's called, the first call is just a warning.
I mean, what's your point here? Literally everyone connected with the broadcast tonight said it was an egregiously bad missed call, and such a bad mistake by Waiters that they'd never even seen it before, and that includes four players (and a ref consulted by Barkley) that probably have 70-80 years of NBA experience among them.
I mean, what's your point here? Literally everyone connected with the broadcast tonight said it was an egregiously bad missed call, and such a bad mistake by Waiters that they'd never even seen it before, and that includes four players (and a ref consulted by Barkley) that probably have 70-80 years of NBA experience among them.
Here's your headshot sip fan Token. Not that I care though because I think the Spurs still screwed the pooch by not getting their best 2 point players in the game.
The expected NBA defense of the call would have been something along the lines of incidental contact. But even the game officials realize they screwed it up.
The ONLY thing that is relevant regarding the missed call is that the official standing there should be suspended for the playoffs. Other than that everyone should move on.
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"On the floor, we did not see a foul on the play," referee Ken Mauer told a pool reporter. "However, upon review we realize and we agree that we should have had an offensive foul on the play. It's a play that we have never seen before, ever, but we feel we should have had an offensive foul on Waiters."
The expected NBA defense of the call would have been something along the lines of incidental contact. But even the game officials realize they screwed it up.
The ONLY thing that is relevant regarding the missed call is that the official standing there should be suspended for the playoffs. Other than that everyone should move on.
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