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Halconblack said:

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Let's look at each of these:
Adeleye: Going to be in for a fight at the deepest position on the team. He knows this. Could he start probably start? Yes. Will he start or even be in the two deep? He would have to earn it against some of the top talent in the nation

White: this is the one I don't understand. However, it is not beyond reason that he saw a Malik Sylla's and the Enai whites, challenging him for a spot in the two deep and didn't want the competition.

Denver: he was not eligible to return to the team as multiple outlets have reported.

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Adeleye was the sixth highest DL on our roster. It wasn't like he was chopped liver. He had injury issues. To think he couldn't make the two deep is ludicrous.

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It's not ludicrous we had 4 true freshman with with higher ratings than him and 4 guys ahead of him with significantly more PT. But anyone saying he doesn't have great potential is just stupid.

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vander54 said:

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vander54 said:

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vander54 said:

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Look at Okie Lite. I would rather lose 20 bench guys than 5 contributors.

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8 of the 19 scholarship guys in the portal were starters at one point or another. At least 3 of them would have continued to be starters had they stayed.

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At one point. Who that left would be the starter next year?

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Tunmise Adeleye, Andre White, Denver Harris

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No, no, kicked out of school so no.

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If healthy, Adeleye would have started this year and next. Why do you think differently?

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That's a giant IF. You're probably right but he just hasn't been able to stay healthy. You've seen this story before…"Chapman would have been a stud but he couldn't stay healthy".

About 20 transfer out, so how many are transferring in?

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AWP 97 said:

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vander54 said:

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Aggieair said:

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vander54 said:

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Aggieair said:

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vander54 said:

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Look at Okie Lite. I would rather lose 20 bench guys than 5 contributors.

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8 of the 19 scholarship guys in the portal were starters at one point or another. At least 3 of them would have continued to be starters had they stayed.

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At one point. Who that left would be the starter next year?

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Tunmise Adeleye, Andre White, Denver Harris

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No, no, kicked out of school so no.

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If healthy, Adeleye would have started this year and next. Why do you think differently?

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That's a giant IF. You're probably right but he just hasn't been able to stay healthy. You've seen this story before…"Chapman would have been a stud but he couldn't stay healthy".

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Saw the same thing with Michael Clemons for 3 years, but WOW that 4th year...

I wasn't saying he couldn't make the two deep. I was saying it wasn't going to be given to him. Maybe that was enough for him to leave.

Deuce Harmon hint hinting on Twitter

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— Deuce Harmon (2.0) (@_DeuceHarmon_) December 7, 2022

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Deuce Harmon hint hinting on Twitter

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— Deuce Harmon (2.0) (@_DeuceHarmon_) December 7, 2022

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Gotta love his former teammate encouraging him to bail on us

Yk what to do.

— Tunmise Adeleye 🇳🇬 (@OTK4Ltunmise) December 7, 2022

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vander54 said:

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vander54 said:

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vander54 said:

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Look at Okie Lite. I would rather lose 20 bench guys than 5 contributors.

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8 of the 19 scholarship guys in the portal were starters at one point or another. At least 3 of them would have continued to be starters had they stayed.

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At one point. Who that left would be the starter next year?

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Tunmise Adeleye, Andre White, Denver Harris

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No, no, kicked out of school so no.

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If healthy, Adeleye would have started this year and next. Why do you think differently?

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Major speculation to say he would start next year. Either way, we have a ton of guys with his similar size and skill set. We need to get quicker off the edge. I'd rather have kept him for depth than not, but it's not a big deal.

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People are only thinking about starters. Look at how many injuries we had this season. We're losing a ton of depth. That's he real problem. Everyone wants to start, but damn, need some depth too.

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We've lost a lot of depth but so far that's it. For the most part our 2 deep is still intact. LJ, White, Ish are big depth losses.

We've been lucky compared to a lot of other schools.

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Vander I'm just curious- at what point do you think we should be concerned about the portal?
Your argument seems to revolve around "yeah but really these players weren't going to start so who cares? We are lucky, if anything"
Meanwhile 20+ players and counting have announced (many with significant playing time) and Jimbo has yet to prove himself in any way as adept in the transfer portal world.
Do you honestly believe this is a good thing?

When we can't find enough quality players (not just bodies) to come in and fill those spots of need. I think we will start to get a feel after ESD.

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People are only thinking about starters. Look at how many injuries we had this season. We're losing a ton of depth. That's he real problem. Everyone wants to start, but damn, need some depth too.

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We've lost a lot of depth but so far that's it. For the most part our 2 deep is still intact. LJ, White, Ish are big depth losses.

We've been lucky compared to a lot of other schools.

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Vander I'm just curious- at what point do you think we should be concerned about the portal?
Your argument seems to revolve around "yeah but really these players weren't going to start so who cares? We are lucky, if anything"
Meanwhile 20+ players and counting have announced (many with significant playing time) and Jimbo has yet to prove himself in any way as adept in the transfer portal world.
Do you honestly believe this is a good thing?

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Many is way over stated. Most of the guys that left were lower on the depth chart. They may have played some but it's not surprising to see them go. A couple had no choice, one had medically retired, one was no longer on the roster and 2 are walk ons.

I'll repeat what I've said before. So far there have been 0 surprises and that is the most important thing.

As of now we 17 returning starters with all 5 of the guys not returning going to the NFL.

it would be interesting to compare total team transfer portal losses across the country in every program

and then be able to realize if losing 19 highly ranked scholarship players is the worst in the nation or just average.

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When do we add Denver Harris, PJ Williams, and Chris Marshall?

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Is PJ transferring to Huntsville?

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good one

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it would be interesting to compare total team transfer portal losses across the country in every program

and then be able to realize if losing 19 highly ranked scholarship players is the worst in the nation or just average.

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You mention highly ranked. I think a better look would be losing guys that are in the two deep. I think we are only losing LB's that were in the two deep. I don't count Denver Harris bc he was already suspended.

If you look at other schools like Bama, they are losing some pretty highly ranked players as well as a starter on the OL. Many other schools are losing starters including a bunch of starting QB's.

I think we are losing some depth and a few guys that could become dominant players if they go to the right situation, but were buried on our depth chart.

Bama has players to lose and they were 10-2, we finished tied for last. Them losing a starter or two won't have near the impact as if we do. With our decline this year and the things still undealt with (no new OC/Jimbo calling plays, OL, etc.) hopefully we don't lose all that many on the two-deep and it winds up that we lose 20 to 25 guys who were not starters, or were problems, and are looking for more playing time, and likely replace them with players of the same type.

Bama is losing 3 starting WRs, starting LG, and a lot of OL depth. Color me optimistic but I'd rather have our portal situation vs theirs

When should we start seeing kids transferring in? ESD? I'm unclear on how the rules work, can transfers commit to a new school before ESD?

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When should we start seeing kids transferring in? ESD? I'm unclear on how the rules work, can transfers commit to a new school before ESD?

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They can commit any time, no deadline. The 45-day window is only for getting in the portal. You can get out anytime you find the right fit (if you find somewhere at all). I think these are the rules anyway.

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When should we start seeing kids transferring in? ESD? I'm unclear on how the rules work, can transfers commit to a new school before ESD?

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They can commit any time, no deadline. The 45-day window is only for getting in the portal. You can get out anytime you find the right fit (if you find somewhere at all). I think these are the rules anyway.

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Also depends if the transfer is enrolling at the new university in January or in the summer.

Javion Cohen (OL Bama) has entered.

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Let's look at each of these:
Adeleye: Going to be in for a fight at the deepest position on the team. He knows this. Could he start probably start? Yes. Will he start or even be in the two deep? He would have to earn it against some of the top talent in the nation

White: this is the one I don't understand. However, it is not beyond reason that he saw a Malik Sylla's and the Enai whites, challenging him for a spot in the two deep and didn't want the competition.

Denver: he was not eligible to return to the team as multiple outlets have reported.

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Adeleye was the sixth highest DL on our roster. It wasn't like he was chopped liver. He had injury issues. To think he couldn't make the two deep is ludicrous.

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It's not ludicrous we had 4 true freshman with with higher ratings than him and 4 guys ahead of him with significantly more PT. But anyone saying he doesn't have great potential is just stupid.

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He was rated just as high in the previous (21) recruiting cycle. That said, if stars are some kind of guarantee, why is Kingsley playing in the NFL when he was only a 3* athlete? He was definitely as good as many 5*'s and better than most 4*'s. I believe what I see on the field, against real competition, and Adeleye is a player. Really no need to diminish his athletic ability or question his character. If he wants to leave, that's his option.

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Oh and I’m not transferring from Texas A&M, sorry if it seemed like it! I’m happy where I am.

— Deuce Harmon (2.0) (@_DeuceHarmon_) December 7, 2022

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It's going to be a good evening

None Today

Marshall in the portal shocked absolutely no one. Expect Lucas to be next.

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Marshall in the portal shocked absolutely no one. Expect Lucas to be next.

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But where are we seeing this to be true? Not doubting it in full, but all I see is a TexAgs post

Texas A&M five-star freshman wide receiver Chris Marshall has entered the transfer portalhttps://t.co/eVdQABdqay

— Matt Zenitz (@mzenitz) December 8, 2022

I'll cite my sources

Chris Marshall is an obvious disappointment. Before anyone gets really excited either way there are a couple of things to remember:
1) He was awaiting a school review of his issues that got him suspended this past season.
2) He did not enter the portal December 5th, the First day.
3) I would fully expect any of these guys that are in trouble to at least enter their name into the portal.
4) If you aren't expecting the same for Anthony Lucas you should.
5) Entering into the portal doesn't mean you have to leave your school.
6) We know the All-Star recruiters that Jimbo has on staff. If they really think Marshall can get back onto the field and they want him back they have a great shot.
7) All that being said, still sucks and would be a big talent loss.

Lucas is expected back

Source?

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Source?

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Luicci

Tunmise is literally retweeting every single tweet about people transferring from a&m. Safe to say he did not enjoy his time here

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Updated to add "interest" for prospective players. There is not a ton of hard reporting on this. So post in the thread and I will add.

Out 20 Scholarship; 3 Non-Scholarship
Summary by Class
2022 2 x 5 Star, 2 x 4-Star
2021 5 x 4-Star
2020 4 x 4-Star 2 x 3-Star
2019 2 x 4-Star, 2 x 3-Star
2017 1 x 3-Star Special class of transfer

Summary Production
Offense 61 GP, 1579 Pass Yards, 725 receiving yards, 115 rushing yards 4 TD
Defense 159 GP, 332 TKL, 17 TFL, 5.5 SK, 6 Int
Kicking 33 GP, 1/4 FG

11/21/22 Donnell Harris Edge TBD '20 4-Star 3/26 4 GP, 3 TKL
11/26/22 Elijah Jeudy Edge TBD '21 4-Star 9/23 4 GP, 1 TKL
11/27/22 Ish Harris LB TBD '22 4-Star 26/29
11/27/22 LJ Johnson RB TBD '21 4-Star 3/23 10 GP, 115 yds, 2 TD
11/28/22 Caden Davis K TBD '19 3-Star 26/27 33 GP, 1/4 FG 40 yd Long
11/29/22 Chase Lane WR TBD '19 3-Star 20/27 27 GP, 48 rec 617 yds, 2 TD
12/1/22 Tunmise Adeleye Edge TBD '21 4-Star 2/23 3 GP 6 TKL
12/1/22 Blake Smith TE TBD '20 3-Star 20/26 6 GP 2 rec 1 yd
12/1/22 Brian George CB TBD JUCO '20 4-Star 19 GP 1 int 23 TKL
12/2/22 Haynes King QB TBD '20 4-Star 8/26 10 GP 56.6% Comp 1579 yds 10 TD 10 INT
12/2/22 Denver Harris CB TBD '22 5-Star 7/29 5 GP 14 TKL
12/2/22 PJ Williams OL TBD '22 4-Star 20/29 7.7 ounces
12/5/22 Eli Stowers QB/TE TBD '21 4-Star 8/23 2 GP
12/5/22 Marcus Burris DL TBD '21 4-Star 6/23 8 GP 1 TKL
12/5/22 Dallas Walker DL TBD '20 3-Star 17/26 2 GP 3 TKL
12/5/22 Myles Jones CB TBD '17 3-Star 14/28 49 GP 124 TKL 6 TFL 4 Int
12/5/22 Josh Moten CB TBD '20 4-Star 15/26 2 GP 1 TKL
12/6/22 Tarian Lee LB TBD '19 3-Star 21/27 23 GP 17 TKL
12/6/22 Andre White LB TBD '19 4-Star 12/27 40 GP 139 TFL 10.5 TFL 5.5 SK 1 Int
12/7/22 Chris Marshall WR TBD '22 5-Star 6/29 6 GP, 11 rec 108 yds


Others
Alan Guerrieiri P
Avery Hughes DB
Ryan Campbell WR

In
None

Interest
Mason Cobb LB OkSt '20 4-Star Visit 12/10/22
Fentrell Cypress CB UVA '19 4-Star Offer
Jimmy Horn Jr WR USF '21 4-Star Offer

Date; Name; Pos; New School; Recruit Class; Stars; Class Rnk; Key Stats
Last updated 12/8/22

Rules on the portal (Courtesy ESPN)
Starting in 2022 the Division I Council approved transfer window dates for when players can enter the portal. Instead of being able to leave a school at any time, players now have to enter the portal within set dates. The first window opens the day after the championship teams are selected, which will be Dec. 5, and closes 45 days later on Jan. 18, 2023. There is also a 15-day spring period from May 1-15.

However, the windows are meant for players to enter their names into the portal, which is different from actually transferring. Once their name is in the portal, they can transfer whenever they want as long as they are able to gain admissions and meet academic requirement dates.

For more data and quick links

Transfer portal changes for 2022

247 Texas A&M Transfer entries

On3's wacky transfer tracker with NIL dollars

Transfer Portal by Class

NCAA Summary data from 2020-2021

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That's a lot of players. Hopefully this is it.

That has to be it. Am I correct that there are now a total of two scholarship linebackers in the program?
Some big money Ag needs to send a blank check to Hill ASAP.