Can't they just use vouchers and attend whatever school they would like?
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I also get the impression that grandfathering won't be completely settled until the end of this process.
CS78 said:
The more they jerk people around, I have to wonder how many will get fed up and try to not follow the zonings. How hard is it to lie about where you live and use a PO Box for your mailing address?
Even better idea, lets take everyone north of the line and send them south. Everyone south of the line and send them north. Will that finally make everyone equal and we can just put this to bed?BigBubba said:
Lastly, they will also present an option that draws an east/west line straight across the middle of the district whcih sends all kids north of the line to CONSOL and south of the line to CSHS. This should be funny and is mainly being done just to show people how this is not an option.
They actually do that with thousands of student? What if someone owns more than one property? What would the consequences be if caught? The ISD can't just keep screwing with peoples lives and not expect push back at some point.91_Aggie said:CS78 said:
The more they jerk people around, I have to wonder how many will get fed up and try to not follow the zonings. How hard is it to lie about where you live and use a PO Box for your mailing address?
I'll help you out with that. Go to brazoscad.org and search by your name for property.
CS78 said:They actually do that with thousands of student? What if someone owns more than one property? What would the consequences be if caught? The ISD can't just keep screwing with peoples lives and not expect push back at some point.91_Aggie said:CS78 said:
The more they jerk people around, I have to wonder how many will get fed up and try to not follow the zonings. How hard is it to lie about where you live and use a PO Box for your mailing address?
I'll help you out with that. Go to brazoscad.org and search by your name for property.
Looks like I actually qualify to have my CAD information kept confidential. I'm sure many others do too. https://comptroller.texas.gov/forms/50-284.pdf
Did not know that. Interesting. So what do they do?gibby03 said:
What if I told you they are finding kids today at all 4 area high schools that are zoned to a high school different than the one they are attending? And it's April. That's happening.
CS78 said:Did not know that. Interesting. So what do they do?gibby03 said:
What if I told you they are finding kids today at all 4 area high schools that are zoned to a high school different than the one they are attending? And it's April. That's happening.
That only shows where you own property. If you lease a duplex and show that as your primary residence, you can get around that.91_Aggie said:CS78 said:
The more they jerk people around, I have to wonder how many will get fed up and try to not follow the zonings. How hard is it to lie about where you live and use a PO Box for your mailing address?
I'll help you out with that. Go to brazoscad.org and search by your name for property.
If they did that to option 2b, it would be just another version of Option 1Quote:
Two of the options that will be shown are:
- Option 2b with Nantucket and Indian Lakes added
- Option 1 with the Margraves development added
That's going to be a very small number of people who do that.Stupe said:That only shows where you own property. If you lease a duplex and show that as your primary residence, you can get around that.91_Aggie said:CS78 said:
The more they jerk people around, I have to wonder how many will get fed up and try to not follow the zonings. How hard is it to lie about where you live and use a PO Box for your mailing address?
I'll help you out with that. Go to brazoscad.org and search by your name for property.
From a "legal" standpoint, the only thing that would really affect would be UIL competitions.
Edit: I know this because I know people from both schools that were considering it.
CAD information being confidential is probably only applicable to it being viewed by anyone on websites.CS78 said:They actually do that with thousands of student? What if someone owns more than one property? What would the consequences be if caught? The ISD can't just keep screwing with peoples lives and not expect push back at some point.91_Aggie said:CS78 said:
The more they jerk people around, I have to wonder how many will get fed up and try to not follow the zonings. How hard is it to lie about where you live and use a PO Box for your mailing address?
I'll help you out with that. Go to brazoscad.org and search by your name for property.
Looks like I actually qualify to have my CAD information kept confidential. I'm sure many others do too. https://comptroller.texas.gov/forms/50-284.pdf
You may be on to something. Thinking a bit out of the box, and with keeping continuity in mind over most everything else....CS78 said:
Even better idea, lets take everyone north of the line and send them south. Everyone south of the line and send them north. Will that finally make everyone equal and we can just put this to bed?
I agree with you. I'm not saying that it's ethical, but it gets done.Quote:
If people are going to go through the expense of leasing a duplex/apartment to show as primary residence, and be that deceitful, you know their little Johnny/Jane is going to end up being an "outstanding" member of society no matter what school then end up in.
Shouldn't be something a few cans of paint can't fix. AMCHS keeps their mascot and colors, as does CSHS. Spend a few dollars repainting purple walls maroon...have the students do the work over the summer.Oogway said:
That is an interesting idea, and definitely original. Would parents have a problem with the mascot colors etc being different?
You are new here... CSISD needs $305,000 worth of spray paint to rebranding.JimInBCS said:Shouldn't be something a few cans of paint can't fix. AMCHS keeps their mascot and colors, as does CSHS. Spend a few dollars repainting purple walls maroon...have the students do the work over the summer.Oogway said:
That is an interesting idea, and definitely original. Would parents have a problem with the mascot colors etc being different?
It would be interesting to see a neighborhood-level comparison of the 2016 projections vs. actual enrollments at both schools to get a sense of where this happened--was it all rezoned neighborhoods, or certain ones that caused the shift towards CSHS? Might help them target better this time (maybe not, but it shouldn't be that hard to do a comparison).BigBubba said:
One item that was discussed is how past enrollment projections for CONSOL have come in below estimates while CSHS has come in above estimates.
Yes.Stupe said:
Am I reading that correctly?
- All of the students that are at CSHS would go to the current AMCHS building, but it would be the temporary home of CSHS
- The current CSHS building would be called AMCHS and the current AMCHS students would go to that building
- Build another high school farther south, call that CSHS and the current CSHS building would be the permanent home of AMCHS and the current AMCHS building would be re-purposed
No because then you'll end up with HISD problems, where the better schools get overcrowded (but more funding) while the worse schools end up closing down entirely. At some point they need to make a decision on how they want to do zoning moving forward, trying to bus people across town to balance out low-income students is going to be more and more unsustainable with every new school.DontBeTriggered said:
Can't they just use vouchers and attend whatever school they would like?
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They still haven't addressed siblings.
Quote:You will find out officially on Monday but my guess is because it would end up with 1400 students at CONSOL and 2400 at CSHS. Also, the ratio of low-SES students would probably be 40%-60% at CONSOL while CSHS would be 10%.Quote:EVA3 said:Quote:
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Lastly, they will also present an option that draws an east/west line straight across the middle of the district whcih sends all kids north of the line to CONSOL and south of the line to CSHS. This should be funny and is mainly being done just to show people how this is not an option.
Why not?
birdman said:
Some people wondered why parents got so upset since "both high schools are great". And they usually mention that they are only a few miles apart.
The high school zoning is a mess. But it's the middle and intermediate school zoning that puts a bigger burden on families.
My daughter has to get on the bus before 7am. She gets off the bus after 5pm. That is absolutely ridiculous. And especially more ridiculous because you pass by three perfectly good intermediate schools along the way.
Any system that has 5th graders riding a bus for over 2 hours every day is complete garbage.