Lake08 said:

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annie88 said:

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Don't they usually have two weeks between the last playoff game and the Super Bowl? If that's the case, that might be the answer.

Meaning, pushing all the playoff games back a week. Obviously not playing this game after the playoffs.

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U can't push games back. Logistically a disaster

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Then I guess they're just going have to have a Sunday game/Thursday game situation.

Little Rock Ag said:

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It is sad and shameful that relatively so few people in powerful places have torn us apart as a nation. I will decline to name any names or cast blame on any specific persons,

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Just the word choices!

I have Said for forever and a day that they should turn pro bowl into a field day with capture the flag and red rover and games like that. make it fun. no one watches it the way it Is and it's not worth the risk

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On September 26, 2022, the league announced they will be replacing the traditional Pro Bowl game with skills competitions throughout the week, culminating with a non-contact flag football game at the end of the week

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Pro_Bowl_Games

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This has happened before.....Oct 24, 1971. Tiger Stadium, Chicago Bears at Detroit Lions.

Chuck Hughes was a back-up wide out for the Lions. He wore #85. Late in the game, the Lions trailed 28-23. With 1:02 left in the game Hughes was running back to the Lions huddle and suddenly collapsed and went into convulsions. There was no contact involved. Dick Butkus, MLB for the Bears, leaned over Hughes and became immediately alarmed and frantically motioned for the Lions medical staff. Hughes was taken off the field on a stretcher and declared dead at the hospital at 5:35 local time....but he was actually dead on the field. He is still the only NFL player to die on the field.

I was in high school in 1971. Chuck Hughes was a familiar name to me because he spent his first 3 NFL seasons (67-69) with my Philadelphia Eagles. He was born in Philadelphia, but moved to Texas with his family as a child. He attended Abilene High School and played his college ball at Texas Western (now called UTEP). He still holds numerous records there and was inducted in UTEP HOF in 2006. He was a 4th round pick by the Eagles in 1967. He was mainly a back up, but very reliable when given the opportunity.

An autopsy revealed that Hughes had congenital heart disease....and very advanced for a man that young. One of his arteries was 75% blocked. He had complained of chest pains earlier in that season, but continued to play. He left behind a wife and a 1 year old son. He was buried in San Antonio, Tex.

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There was an article this morning in the Philly paper about Chuck Hughes.

"Recalling an ex-Eagle who died on the field in 1971" by Mike Sielski.

Hughes spent the 1970 Training Camp with the Eagles, but was traded to Detroit just before the season started. Ray Didinger was a life-long Eagles reporter who began to cover the team in 1970. He said most of the players were not that friendly to the reporters, but Chuck always was. Always wore a cowboy hat...and loved listening to C&W, especially Waylon Jennings. He had a good 1970 season with the Lions, caught 8 passes for 162 yards, and helped the Lions reach the playoffs. (they lost to the Cowboys at the Cotton Bowl by a strange "baseball" score of 5-0.....the Cowboys would go on to lose Super Bowl V to the Baltimore Colts 16-13)

Chuck Hughes' widow, Sharon, told a haunting story to the Deroit Free Press in 1991, 20 years after his death. She said the night before the Bears game, they got into an argument...a rather innocuous one...about wether their 2 year old son was old enough to chew gum. The argument got heated....and Chuck left to spend the night at the team hotel.
They never spoke again.

swimmerbabe11 said:

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I have Said for forever and a day that they should turn pro bowl into a field day with capture the flag and red rover and games like that. make it fun. no one watches it the way it Is and it's not worth the risk

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Red rover....

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Lake08 said:

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redag06 said:

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Lake08 said:

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annie88 said:

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Don't they usually have two weeks between the last playoff game and the Super Bowl? If that's the case, that might be the answer.

Meaning, pushing all the playoff games back a week. Obviously not playing this game after the playoffs.

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U can't push games back. Logistically a disaster

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Why? Those teams don't know where or who they will be playing yet, so logistically not an issue.

You can't move the Super Bowl, that would be a logistical nightmare, but just eliminating the extra week in between the Super Bowl isn't an issue.

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Pro bowl that week. HUGE corporate week

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People watch the pro bowl?

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can't call yourself a degenerate gambler without loading action on the pro bowl

More people watch the Pro Bowl in 2022 than watched all but 10 regular season college football games.

Time for my annual telling of the greatest Pro Bowl story ever told.

This story was told by former Oilers' linebacker Robert Brazile on the radio once. Brazile, for the unitiatied, was a massive linebacker (6-4 230) for the late 70s/early 80s Oilers and went to seven straight Pro Bowls. His first was in 1976. The Oilers' divisional rivals, the Steelers, had EIGHT guys from their defense named to the Pro Bowl, among them LC Greenwood, Mean Joe Greene, Jack Lambert, Jack Ham, and Mel Blount.

After the opening kickoff, Brazile went out there with the starting defense as the NFC took the field. Jack Lambert is playing OLB and starts calling out signals to align the defense to match what the NFC offense is doing, but Brazile realizes they are the Steelers' team signals.

Confused, Brazile hollers at Lambert," Hey, hey! Jack! What do you want me to do?"

Lambert smiles and says, 'Just stay out of our way."

I'm curious, if Shannon Sharpe and Skip had any conversation on this before they went on the air.

I'm not sure who watches that show regularly, but if they split, who would FOX keep?

Shannon Sharpe is fed up with Skip Bayless 😬 pic.twitter.com/h5UYVaCXxG

— NBACentral (@TheNBACentral) January 4, 2023

I see no appeal in watching that show.

peyton manning's bill belichick pro bowl stories are pretty good also

https://www.golfdigest.com/story/bill-belichick-pamela-anderson-peyton-manning-pro-bowl-manningcast-story

Iowaggie said:

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I'm curious, if Shannon Sharpe and Skip had any conversation on this before they went on the air.

I'm not sure who watches that show regularly, but if they split, who would FOX keep?

Shannon Sharpe is fed up with Skip Bayless 😬 pic.twitter.com/h5UYVaCXxG

— NBACentral (@TheNBACentral) January 4, 2023

I see no appeal in watching that show.

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I have no idea who watches either other than unemployed dumb people. Just the commercials during football games for that show irritate the life out of me.

Iowaggie said:

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I'm curious, if Shannon Sharpe and Skip had any conversation on this before they went on the air.

I'm not sure who watches that show regularly, but if they split, who would FOX keep?

Shannon Sharpe is fed up with Skip Bayless 😬 pic.twitter.com/h5UYVaCXxG

— NBACentral (@TheNBACentral) January 4, 2023

I see no appeal in watching that show.

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Shannon Sharpe should just reach across the table and rip Skip's arm out of his socket Chewbacca style.

Shannon needs his own show.
I watch only for his takes anyway.

I listen to it as background-

Sharpe makes bank on that show- Skip only talks about Baker, Dak and the Lakers - every show

Sharpe could not carry a show and neither can Skip- they oddly work together

Semi related question -
Do nfl players have health insurance through the NFL or team, or do they shop for open market health care?

If I had to guess, I'd guess they get it through the NFL, and that is costs them nothing, but maybe I might be surprised.

This is from a couple years ago. But teams cover entire cost. Also, have years of eligibility minimums to vest and get post retirement coverage.

https://nflpaweb.blob.core.windows.net/website/Departments/Benefits/NFL-PIP-SPD-Final-15.pdf

Not sure how reliable PFT is, but:

Current information we have: Bills-Bengals won't happen. The NFL is currently figuring out how to configure the AFC playoffs without that game. Could an eighth team be added to eliminate the bye week for the No. 1 seed?

— ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) January 5, 2023