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jokershady said:

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Saw a video that this could be commotio cortis….which is that instance where the right amount of force and the perfectly wrong time triggers cardiac arrest….

Pure speculation but would make sense in this instance…

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This was my wild ass guess too. It would fit the scenario. And with early CPR and early defibrillation his odds would be pretty good. Just a hopeful guess.

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This video from @BrianSuttererMD is very informative about what happened tonight to Damar Hamlin-please continue to keep Damar in your prayers as he is still in critical care at the University of Cincinnati Hospital 🙏 pic.twitter.com/O8xFAxjEW6

— Steven Chavez (@ScChavez15) January 3, 2023

wangus12 said:

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I also absolutely despise that the press are outside the hospital.

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annie88 said:

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I saw it when it happened and my first thought wasn't a super hard hit. It was a heart attack. But I know if your hit at the right time things can happen like this. I've heard of these cases before. Not in football, but other situations.

Kind of a freak thing.

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Damar Hamlin suffered a cardiac arrest following a hit in our game versus the Bengals. His heartbeat was restored on the field and he was transferred to the UC Medical Center for further testing and treatment. He is currently sedated and listed in critical condition.

— Buffalo Bills (@BuffaloBills) January 3, 2023

annie88 said:

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annie88 said:

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I saw it when it happened and my first thought wasn't a super hard hit. It was a heart attack. But I know if your hit at the right time things can happen like this. I've heard of these cases before. Not in football, but other situations.

Kind of a freak thing.

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Update:

Damar Hamlin suffered a cardiac arrest following a hit in our game versus the Bengals. His heartbeat was restored on the field and he was transferred to the UC Medical Center for further testing and treatment. He is currently sedated and listed in critical condition.

— Buffalo Bills (@BuffaloBills) January 3, 2023

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wangus12 said:

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question

do training staffs not have AEDs on the sidelines?

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I'd doubt it. Plus that ambulance has way better equipment. I've worked EMS at A&M games and they didn't have them, but that was over a decade ago

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I'm pretty sure that the paramedics have one on the ambulance. Would definitely have a monitor/defibrillator on board.

There was a player for Westlake, committed to tu a decade ago who collapsed during a game. Lots of doctors there (including both of his parents). Got CPR, survived. Ended up getting an AICD (implanted defibrillator), and medically retired from the sport. tu honored his scholarship, IIRC. I'm fairly certain that AEDs are now standard sideline equipment here at least

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BMX Bandit said:

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don't see this game being played. they went home last night as is the norm, and even though its a quick flight, they for sure won't be a game tonight. Wednesday is theoretically possible, but I don't see it. Bills will just live with having one less game and take the 2 seed (with a win)

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BMX Bandit said:

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don't see this game being played. they went home last night as is the norm, and even though its a quick flight, they for sure won't be a game tonight. Wednesday is theoretically possible, but I don't see it. Bills will just live with having one less game and take the 2 seed (with a win)

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Medaggie said:

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I initially thought cardiac contusion with arrhythmia, vascular tear but if CPR/defib got his cardiac activity back then Commotio Cordis most likely. His prognosis now depends on how well he got brain perfusion during this event.

Commotio Cordis is extremely rare, we talk about it in medicine but almost never see it.

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BMX Bandit said:

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don't see this game being played. they went home last night as is the norm, and even though its a quick flight, they for sure won't be a game tonight. Wednesday is theoretically possible, but I don't see it. Bills will just live with having one less game and take the 2 seed (with a win)

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W said:

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that's a good question too...will the Bills be ready to play by Sunday?

cancellation of last night's game seems the likely solution unless the NFL is willing to give up the week between the championship games and the Super Bowl

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The Porkchop Express said:

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BMX Bandit said:

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don't see this game being played. they went home last night as is the norm, and even though its a quick flight, they for sure won't be a game tonight. Wednesday is theoretically possible, but I don't see it. Bills will just live with having one less game and take the 2 seed (with a win)

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They both have pivotal games to the playoff seeding coming up - Bengals vs. Ravens on Saturday and Bills/Patriots on Sunday so I can't imagine them also playing Wednesday.

I would guess the NFL is weighing two options: 1) Seed them on winning percentage and roll with that.

2) Push the post-season back a week and eliminate the week off before the Super Bowl so that Bengals/Bills can finish the game in a "Week 19" and then go into the post-season. Since nobody has a set date at their stadium anyway, it would not mess up any schedules. They rescheduled games and moved the post-season in 2001 after Week 2 games were not played after 9/11. No reason they can't do it again.

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Know Your Enemy said:

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The Porkchop Express said:

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BMX Bandit said:

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don't see this game being played. they went home last night as is the norm, and even though its a quick flight, they for sure won't be a game tonight. Wednesday is theoretically possible, but I don't see it. Bills will just live with having one less game and take the 2 seed (with a win)

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They both have pivotal games to the playoff seeding coming up - Bengals vs. Ravens on Saturday and Bills/Patriots on Sunday so I can't imagine them also playing Wednesday.

I would guess the NFL is weighing two options: 1) Seed them on winning percentage and roll with that.

2) Push the post-season back a week and eliminate the week off before the Super Bowl so that Bengals/Bills can finish the game in a "Week 19" and then go into the post-season. Since nobody has a set date at their stadium anyway, it would not mess up any schedules. They rescheduled games and moved the post-season in 2001 after Week 2 games were not played after 9/11. No reason they can't do it again.

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They could theoretically finish last night's game tomorrow and then move both the Bills & Bengals Sunday games to Monday to give them a day back to prepare.

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