a case for EVs, er Teslas

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TexasRebel said:

Teslag said:

TexasRebel said:

Which one of those thought the car was in charge?


In autopilot the car is never in charge and Tesla has made it clear that it isn't.


Yes. Tesla has been clear that their Full Self Driving car is misleading in that it does not fully drive itself.


Autopilot is not FSD. And you know that.
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TexasRebel said:

Teslag said:

TexasRebel said:

It's ridiculous to give up control of a vehicle to a machine that throws control back to an out-of-the-loop occupant when it gets confused and blindly obeys any unconscious occupant input.



The autopilot in this case wasn't confused. It performed exactly as designed and warned the driver with ample time to stop.


Now do the other one.


Why? It wasn't a factor in this accident.
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Medaggie said:

This is starting to sound like a flat earther argument. Every logical fact is debated with, "when I run, it is flat" or "I ran a marathon, and I did not feel like I was running on a ball".

This debate cracks me up. You guys are arguing with a flat earther.


Don't insult flat earthers like that.
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Teslag
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No surprise there. Teslas are the among the, if not the, safest cars on the road.
Logos Stick
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Especially when you engage FSD.
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Teslag said:

No surprise there. Teslas are the among the, if not the, safest cars on the road.

Lies! If you press the pedal to the floor through a residential neighborhood, it kills grandmas!
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TexasRebel
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Pinpoint when the lead car reversed to provide evidence for that claim.
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I'm sure Waymo would have handled that situation flawlessly! hah
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…when the reverse lights come on?
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Zobel said:

…when the reverse lights come on?


He's trolling. Been doing it 21 pages now.
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The lead car isn't visible until it turns from in front of the pickup.

It's a baseless claim.
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Logos Stick said:

Zobel said:

…when the reverse lights come on?


He's trolling. Been doing it 21 pages now.


Does it physically hurt to be so wrong so often?
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Logos Stick
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TexasRebel said:

Logos Stick said:

Zobel said:

…when the reverse lights come on?


He's trolling. Been doing it 21 pages now.


Does it physically hurt to be so wrong so often?


It still beat the truck in front if it by four seconds - and that driver had the higher seat and the better view. The "lead car" argument doesn't negate the point at all. It's simply a technical correction that is meaningless and fully expected from a troll.
TexasRebel
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How often does this happen unnecessarily?
hph6203
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We have shifted from "it can't do that, it was reacting to the lead car's reverse lights" to "it must do that all the time by mistake."

It doesn't. This is the GUI representation of the forward facing side repeater camera. Very much doubt it could see the reverse lights of the lead vehicle. Actual FOV is narrower than this.
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Don't feed the troll and maybe he will stop. If he doesn't, it is satisfying to ignore the trolls.
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hph6203 said:

We have shifted from "it can't do that, it was reacting to the lead car's reverse lights" to "it must do that all the time by mistake."


Nowhere did I ever say either of these things.

And yes, it is reacting to the wall of a semi trailer moving toward it, which is why I asked the dodged question, "How often does it do that unnecessarily?"
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Stroll thru Amsterdam

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TexasRebel said:

hph6203 said:

We have shifted from "it can't do that, it was reacting to the lead car's reverse lights" to "it must do that all the time by mistake."


Nowhere did I ever say either of these things.

And yes, it is reacting to the wall of a semi trailer moving toward it, which is why I asked the dodged question, "How often does it do that unnecessarily?"


Dodge doesn't make an EV.
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TexasRebel said:

hph6203 said:

We have shifted from "it can't do that, it was reacting to the lead car's reverse lights" to "it must do that all the time by mistake."


Nowhere did I ever say either of these things.

And yes, it is reacting to the wall of a semi trailer moving toward it, which is why I asked the dodged question, "How often does it do that unnecessarily?"

Mine just travels in reverse the entire time.
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IIIHorn said:

TexasRebel said:

hph6203 said:

We have shifted from "it can't do that, it was reacting to the lead car's reverse lights" to "it must do that all the time by mistake."


Nowhere did I ever say either of these things.

And yes, it is reacting to the wall of a semi trailer moving toward it, which is why I asked the dodged question, "How often does it do that unnecessarily?"


Dodge doesn't make an EV.

The Dodge Recharger you mentioned a while back.
The left cannot kill the Spirit of Charlie Kirk.
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GeorgiAg said:

TexasRebel said:

hph6203 said:

We have shifted from "it can't do that, it was reacting to the lead car's reverse lights" to "it must do that all the time by mistake."


Nowhere did I ever say either of these things.

And yes, it is reacting to the wall of a semi trailer moving toward it, which is why I asked the dodged question, "How often does it do that unnecessarily?"

Mine just travels in reverse the entire time.

I assume that charges the battery since you are driving backwards.
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techno-ag said:

IIIHorn said:

TexasRebel said:

hph6203 said:

We have shifted from "it can't do that, it was reacting to the lead car's reverse lights" to "it must do that all the time by mistake."


Nowhere did I ever say either of these things.

And yes, it is reacting to the wall of a semi trailer moving toward it, which is why I asked the dodged question, "How often does it do that unnecessarily?"


Dodge doesn't make an EV.

The Dodge Recharger you mentioned a while back.

Doh!

Great catch.
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Kansas Kid said:

GeorgiAg said:

TexasRebel said:

hph6203 said:

We have shifted from "it can't do that, it was reacting to the lead car's reverse lights" to "it must do that all the time by mistake."


Nowhere did I ever say either of these things.

And yes, it is reacting to the wall of a semi trailer moving toward it, which is why I asked the dodged question, "How often does it do that unnecessarily?"

Mine just travels in reverse the entire time.

I assume that charges the battery since you are driving backwards.
Saw this in a movie once!
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Alan Ruck turned 70 today
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double aught said:

Kansas Kid said:

GeorgiAg said:

TexasRebel said:

hph6203 said:

We have shifted from "it can't do that, it was reacting to the lead car's reverse lights" to "it must do that all the time by mistake."


Nowhere did I ever say either of these things.

And yes, it is reacting to the wall of a semi trailer moving toward it, which is why I asked the dodged question, "How often does it do that unnecessarily?"

Mine just travels in reverse the entire time.

I assume that charges the battery since you are driving backwards.

Saw this in a movie once!

Was it reel?
TexasRebel
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Sounds fishy.
GeorgiAg
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Kansas Kid said:

GeorgiAg said:

TexasRebel said:

hph6203 said:

We have shifted from "it can't do that, it was reacting to the lead car's reverse lights" to "it must do that all the time by mistake."


Nowhere did I ever say either of these things.

And yes, it is reacting to the wall of a semi trailer moving toward it, which is why I asked the dodged question, "How often does it do that unnecessarily?"

Mine just travels in reverse the entire time.

I assume that charges the battery since you are driving backwards.


It's great. The mileage goes in reverse as well too, so I'll have negative miles and when I sell it, people will have to pay me more than I paid for it.
TexasRebel
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You'd better hope they used a signed data type.
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TexasRebel said:

Sounds fishy.


I wouldn't carp about it.
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More on that evil Tesla that allowed a person to take control and crash it...

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It appears that Micheal Butler, the man who killed a woman when he crashed his car into a home in Katy, Texas had his home foreclosed on and sold the month before the crash.

The house he hit was just 7 miles away from the home he lost in foreclosure.

These public records have prompted speculation that Butler may have been having financial issues, may have tried to concoct a story to total the Tesla to get out of his car loan (insurance fraud gone wrong), or may have attempted suicide.

Butler has now been charged with manslaughter.





 
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