His timelines are optimistic, but he delivers.

TexasRebel said:

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Logos Stick said:

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Intelligent LLM based conversation coming to Teslas...

This functionality will be there in about 3 months or so

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) June 18, 2026

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Elon has never severely underestimated a timeline and promised undeliverables before.

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This one probably isn't difficult. There is already Grok integration for several task and navigation planning.

double aught said:

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His timelines are optimistic, but he delivers.

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He promised an autonomous car over 15 years ago and instead misnamed a supervised system "Full Self Driving".

What exactly does he deliver again?

The dude thought it would be a good idea to engineer and build a cave crawling submarine to rescue a soccer team who had only days to live.

This thread has turned to **** because of texasrebel. Go look for the attention you crave on Reddit

techno-ag said:

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Honestly the snark you EVangelists spout when someone brings up legitimate points of concern is probably the biggest hindrance to me ever considering a Tesla. Simple "What about this problem I heard about" statements lead to rounds of ad hominems and accusations.

It makes me think the problems you guys are so quick to insult others about are probably legitimate. Tires probably do wear out faster. Wrecks do result in more problems than with traditional cars. Charging times are a pain. Etc. etc.

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Computers can absolutely do things that people cannot.

SCHTICK00 said:

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This thread has turned to **** because of texasrebel. Go look for the attention you crave on Reddit

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This thread has turned to crap because it's a thread about a car on the politics forum. Staff should start moving Tesla threads to the automotive boards so the fanbois can have their circle jerk. As long as these threads keep popping up on F16 they will continue to turn into pissing matches that accomplish nothing.

TexasRebel said:

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That's people neglecting maintenance on things like bearings and wipers.

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The wipers don't care what fuel is used in the car and I am curious what bearings you think need regular maintenance in an EV?

Oh wait, you don't care because you just want to troll, troll your boat.

Not really.

The folks who think they're saving money by driving an EV seem like the same folks who think wipers will last the life of the vehicle, and nothing needs to be maintained. (Bearings, shocks, springs, etc.)

At some point I figure y'all realize I'm being called a troll for lack of any rebuttal with any substance. It just gets funnier by the occurrence.

It turns to crap because you have disengenuous posters who post baseless, irrelevant, illogical nonsense and non sequiturs.

TexasRebel said:

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Not really.

The folks who think they're saving money by driving an EV seem like the same folks who think wipers will last the life of the vehicle, and nothing needs to be maintained. (Bearings, shocks, springs, etc.)

At some point I figure y'all realize I'm being called a troll for lack of any rebuttal with any substance. It just gets funnier by the occurrence.

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What bearings need to be maintained on a tesla? Do tell us.

Wheel bearings, of course.

Now you tell me they don't have wheel bearings, proving my point.

Every reputable study says that EVs have lower TCO than ICE. Every one of them.

Teslag said:

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TexasRebel said:

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Not really.

The folks who think they're saving money by driving an EV seem like the same folks who think wipers will last the life of the vehicle, and nothing needs to be maintained. (Bearings, shocks, springs, etc.)

At some point I figure y'all realize I'm being called a troll for lack of any rebuttal with any substance. It just gets funnier by the occurrence.

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What bearings need to be maintained on a tesla? Do tell us.

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Muffler bearings.


Next, you'll tell us that Teslas don't even use blinker fluid.

I don't know that there's a scientific study of Total Cost of Ownership.

Biased studies, yes. Tons.

What's the estimated TCO of my '08?

I have detailed records.

Let's find the error.

TexasRebel said:

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I don't know that there's a scientific study of Total Cost of Ownership.

Biased studies, yes. Tons.

What's the estimated TCO of my '08?

I have detailed records.

Let's find the error.

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Records!




I have .mp3s

hph6203 said:

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Computers can absolutely do things that people cannot.

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Impossible, A human or most humans could easily have reacted faster....... or that is what I have been told by TrollRebel.

I mean, the human would have seen the shadow reflecting from the sun on the piece of nail on the ground and broke way before. Nothing to see here but a slow reacting useless computer.

Doing what…a carefree 35 in a residential area?

Medaggie said:

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I mean, the human would have seen the shadow reflecting from the sun on the piece of nail on the ground and broke way before. Nothing to see here but a slow reacting useless computer.

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coolerguy12 said:

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SCHTICK00 said:

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This thread has turned to **** because of texasrebel. Go look for the attention you crave on Reddit

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This thread has turned to crap because it's a thread about a car on the politics forum. Staff should start moving Tesla threads to the automotive boards so the fanbois can have their circle jerk. As long as these threads keep popping up on F16 they will continue to turn into pissing matches that accomplish nothing.

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Isn't that every thread on F16?

TexasRebel said:

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Doing what…a carefree 35 in a residential area?

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Reaction time. 130 ms is half the reaction time of a person doing a visual stimulus test, in other words a person that knows they are going to have to react to something and what their reaction is supposed to be. 130ms is likely an overstatement of the time it takes, because the initial "hazard" they are measuring from did not necessarily warrant a reaction.

In simulated driving tests where the participant knows they might need to react to a hazard the reaction time is even longer, 390-600 ms (older people are on the higher end). That's 3-5x longer to react to a hazard.

Studies on people avoiding hazards while driving measure average reaction time to a hazard at 1.5s, or 12x longer than the computer took.

And since you were so adamant on another thread that you shouldn't receive a ticket for driving drunk, it's estimated drunk driving delays reaction by 25%. That's 1.9s. Drunk you confident in your abilities to forever outperform an autonomous vehicle reacting to a hazard 14x slower.

A car driving 35 mph travels 51 feet per second. Meaning a human driver travels around 70 feet further before reacting than the car. A drunk person might travel 90 feet or more before reacting.


There are things a computer can do that a human cannot. And if an LLM read these posts it wouldn't be confused by what point was being made. You're behind the computers on multiple mental domains.

TexasRebel said:

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Wheel bearings, of course.

Now you tell me they don't have wheel bearings, proving my point.

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Tesla wheel bearings are sealed and non-serviceable. Try again.

They still need maintenance, even if that maintenance is replacing a motor.

One thing a computer cannot do, and most humans refuse to do for some reason, is predict hazards.

Coming to a blind corner? Slow down. Increase your chance of reacting to the unknown in time. If the car behind you is impatient, that's their problem.

A computer doesn't know what it doesn't know because the unknown cannot be programmed. Its only option is to react faster to rapid stimuli.

It absolutely does do that. Every post you make is just your ignorance being put on full display. Total lack of understanding.

Service instructions for replacing a front wheel hub on an dual motor Tesla. It is a DIY job, no motor replacement involved
https://service.tesla.com/docs/Model3/ServiceManual/2024/en-us/GUID-E130D0C9-1164-4F11-BDE0-8B1985862589.html

So it's not as big as replacing a motor, but still requires maintenance.

hph6203 said:

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It absolutely does do that. Every post you make is just your ignorance being put on full display. Total lack of understanding.

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Please find one example of a computer that has successfully accomplished a goal that it wasn't programmed to accomplish.

I won't wait, you'll be looking forever.

They are "lifetime" bearing, like most integrated setups now days, but driving conditions can always chip away at that life

TexasRebel said:

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So it's not as big as replacing a motor, but still requires maintenance.

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What maintenance? What is the service interval. Be specific.

Replacement it seems.

"Lifetime" bearings are only designed for the expected life of the unit. Usually measured in millions of revolutions under specified radial & axial loading.

What's the drivetrain warranty on a Tesla?

hph6203 said:

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It absolutely does do that. Every post you make is just your ignorance being put on full display. Total lack of understanding.

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Right. He speaks with such authority while being completely ignorant at the same time. It's actually amazing to watch.

TexasRebel said:

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Replacement it seems.

"Lifetime" bearings are only designed for the expected life of the unit.

What's the drivetrain warranty on a Tesla?

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Again, what is the service interval for this maintenance? Stop deflecting.

Also keep editing your post as you frantically google your way out of the hole you've dug. It's quite entertaining.

Fun little video of an oil change and bushing replacement on a 230,000 mile Model 3 drive unit