How much carnage was there?

this close…. *sighs*

TexasRebel is just a troll. No one is really comparing FSD to the safest driver. I am sure there are safe drivers who have a slim chance to cause an accident. FSD is better than the majority of drivers and this is the point.

If he thinks he is better than any computer, I bet he has a bunch of computers around to make his life better. Laptop, microwave, dishwasher, calculator, phone. Hell his Ice car has a thousands of chips.

I bet he uses chips/computers in almost everything he does.

Nope. I do all my work with stone tablets and abaci.

One thing to consider is my dad has early dementia and we finally had to take away the keys. My mom is old but can still drive. I think a lot of older people in next few years will buy these to help them get around with the FSD capability.

I know someone who uses the FSD 38% of the time going to Austin and back to Houston.

In 20 years I bet 50% or more of cars on road will be FSD.

DDub74 said:

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One thing to consider is my dad has early dementia and we finally had to take away the keys. My mom is old but can still drive. I think a lot of older people in next few years will buy these to help them get around with the FSD capability.

I know someone who uses the FSD 38% of the time going to Austin and back to Houston.

In 20 years I bet 50% or more of cars on road will be FSD.

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Get me a gas vehicle with it, one I can top off anywhere in 5 minutes and I might consider it.

DDub74 said:

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One thing to consider is my dad has early dementia and we finally had to take away the keys. My mom is old but can still drive. I think a lot of older people in next few years will buy these to help them get around with the FSD capability.

I know someone who uses the FSD 38% of the time going to Austin and back to Houston.

In 20 years I bet 50% or more of cars on road will be FSD.

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While this sounds like a good idea, you now have folks who cannot be left alone traveling distance. At this point it's not "mom wandered out the door, stop her before she reaches the sidewalk!" To, "Mom's car drove her to Amarillo and she got out of it somewhere along the way…"

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coolerguy12 said:

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I just bought a 2020 Tundra with 297,000 miles on it for $8000. Easily the nicest vehicle I've ever owned and just getting broken in. Sold my 07 Tundra with 265,000 on it for $6000. Was driving my F250 with 190,000 on it more than the 07 but the 20 is so nice I have been parking the F250 more. But my favorite vehicle in our fleet is my wife's 03 Excursion with 220,000 miles. I love driving it on the weekends.

No I won't be getting an EV just because they can go a lot of miles. I need something that can actually haul stuff and move 6 people. There is no EV currently that makes any sense for my family.

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I have my Tesla as my daily driver. I also have a Nissan Titan TurboDiesel. Tows 12,000 pounds.

I had to drive my truck to the airport to pick up my neighbors due to four people with a lot of luggage. I had to drive the whole way there and back, like a damn savage.

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I struggle with the sales pitch of "these cars are so amazing that you need to buy a second vehicle to do anything beyond move 2-3 people around". The cost savings kind of go out the window. I can pay for a lot of fuel with the money I save not buying the vehicle with no useful utility beyond what an ICE offers.

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DDub74 said:

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One thing to consider is my dad has early dementia and we finally had to take away the keys. My mom is old but can still drive. I think a lot of older people in next few years will buy these to help them get around with the FSD capability.

I know someone who uses the FSD 38% of the time going to Austin and back to Houston.

In 20 years I bet 50% or more of cars on road will be FSD.

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While this sounds like a good idea, you now have folks who cannot be left alone traveling distance. At this point it's not "mom wandered out the door, stop her before she reaches the sidewalk!" To, "Mom's car drove her to Amarillo and she got out of it somewhere along the way…"

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The technology will be able to track who was in the car, when the door opened, etc. etc.

I'd bet you can geofence them to a small area. And you could get alerts any time it is used.

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TexasRebel said:

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DDub74 said:

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One thing to consider is my dad has early dementia and we finally had to take away the keys. My mom is old but can still drive. I think a lot of older people in next few years will buy these to help them get around with the FSD capability.

I know someone who uses the FSD 38% of the time going to Austin and back to Houston.

In 20 years I bet 50% or more of cars on road will be FSD.

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While this sounds like a good idea, you now have folks who cannot be left alone traveling distance. At this point it's not "mom wandered out the door, stop her before she reaches the sidewalk!" To, "Mom's car drove her to Amarillo and she got out of it somewhere along the way…"

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The technology will be able to track who was in the car, when the door opened, etc. etc.

I'd bet you can geofence them to a small area. And you could get alerts any time it is used.

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The technology will include spike strips?!