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If Mr. Sutton doesn't even know that Welsh did not graduate from A&M, perhaps he should stay out of the discussion

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Add to that, Josh has a severe case of TDS.

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Yeah, this is at the top of his Facebook page. Shocking.

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Josh Sutton, a Texas A&M graduate and Army veteran posted this on Facebook: Disgusted with Texas A&M University and the The Texas A&M University System board of regents and chancellor today, and how independent thought is giving way to unquestioned subservience and pandering. What an embarrassment saying that a 4 star general and Aggie alum doesn't know what's right for A&M's values and future direction.

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Why should we care or show deference what this guy thinks any more than anyone else? Not surprising that a military guy would be supportive of Welsh. It doesn't mean he's right, or that he even knows all the details of the situation. Just another guy with an opinion.

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I have a really bad feeling that our views on the military are going to be vastly different in the next 10 years or so as the uber-woke faction begins to move up into more positions of power.

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The uber woke faction already seems to have moved to the highest ranks if we have generals and Sergeant Majors embracing DEI. That's who Hegseth has been purging in this first year of the Trump administration.

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You're absolutely correct. Mark Milley was the woke flag planted at the top. Fortunately, Trump and Hegseth are taking the right measures to begin culling the Wokistanis. Removing Milley's portrait, firing him from advisory board positions, and revoking his security clearance was appropriate and a clear signal to those who fancy themselves 'la resistance.' A few more of them get exposed and relieved of command every week. Plenty more to go.

What is that, four presidents in five years now? At what point is the BOR accountable for this mess (never).

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What is that, four presidents in five years now? At what point is the BOR accountable for this mess (never).

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"Yes, check out the movie Crip Camp (2020) if you get a chance. It's remarkable to think that it's only been a generation since both private and public establishments have been required to be accessible. To this day I am aware of businesses that won't renovate their space because it would trigger ADA compliance to be updated. Every one of those protections was won with enormous resolve and bravery, and such a short time ago. Reversals are not a negligible concern."


I worked in the VA office and assisted handicapped students in the late 70's. That is a truer interpretation of ADA lineage, handicapped - not DEI. Liberal self-delusion started well before liberal women made it so popular.

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What a bunch of losers

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That's your tax dollars

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...What I didn't understand was why so many corp members were their clapping and showing support?

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Some of the most liberal people I met while at A&M were fellow cadets. The Corps is not the conservative bastion that it is made out to be. Besides that, these are 18-22 year olds who are impressed by the man's 4 shiny stars and blue suit. Welsh spoke to my outfit when he was the AF Chief of Staff and he was impressive, despite showing some obvious liberal bias even then.

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If Mr. Sutton doesn't even know that Welsh did not graduate from A&M, perhaps he should stay out of the discussion

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Add to that, Josh has a severe case of TDS.

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Yeah, this is at the top of his Facebook page. Shocking.

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what's truly shocking is the Left's weak sauce meme game.

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Disability and Accessibility are part of DEI, which is commonly called DEIA. Go ahead. Fire back with some comment about my posterior. Get some good Cajun seasoning to serve with the blue stars you're sure to earn.

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Anti-communism is also part of Nazism, but no one talks about that part of Nazism because EVERYONE with a brain is anti-communist.

All of the other parts of DEI / Nazism that that you / I haven't talked about in this post? Pure trash.

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He's not making up DEIA. It's a thing…

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The best way to pronounce "DEIA" is "A", the "DEI" part should be silent.

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Yes, check out the movie Crip Camp (2020) if you get a chance. It's remarkable to think that it's only been a generation since both private and public establishments have been required to be accessible. To this day I am aware of businesses that won't renovate their space because it would trigger ADA compliance to be updated. Every one of those protections was won with enormous resolve and bravery, and such a short time ago. Reversals are not a negligible concern.

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Awesome. I love that we try to assist people with physical disabilities.

What does that have to do with protecting a college instructor teaching future teachers to teach toddlers about the Gender Unicorn? Is that equivalent to putting in wheel chair ramps?

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It's alarming the number of Aggies on this website defending this man.

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I can understand the support for him. I think that Welsh was a great leader, and well liked by the student body. He did a great job at spreading patriotism throughout the university. He supported the student body. He wasn't Banks. All good things worthy of support.

BUT!!!

He wouldn't let the DEI demon go. He was an obstacle to getting the DEI law passed in the legislature due to his fiasco with the "no whites invited" conference that TAMU spent money to send faculty to, he hired lawyers to thwart that law once passed, and promised the faculty that he would follow through with it, then he got caught trying to thwart the law and cover it up.

Welsh was warned his job was on the line by Abbott as early as the no whites conference.

Welsh was once the highest ranking member of the air force. He understands the chain of command, but, for some reason, he did not believe it applied to him.

Unfortunately, that means he got fired.

You can't tell your boss's boss's boss to go screw, twice, and expect to keep your job, regardless of all the reasons there are to defend him.

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Yes, check out the movie Crip Camp (2020) if you get a chance. It's remarkable to think that it's only been a generation since both private and public establishments have been required to be accessible. To this day I am aware of businesses that won't renovate their space because it would trigger ADA compliance to be updated. Every one of those protections was won with enormous resolve and bravery, and such a short time ago. Reversals are not a negligible concern.

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Awesome. I love that we try to assist people with physical disabilities.

What does that have to do with protecting a college instructor teaching future teachers to teach toddlers about the Gender Unicorn? Is that equivalent to putting in wheel chair ramps?

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still running with with future teachers lie?

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still running with with future teachers lie?

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I haven't read every post, but exactly who else would be taking that class?

Looks like ENGL 333/WGST 333 Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender and Queer Literatures is a class that satisfies Language, Philosophy and Culture requirement for:

• Fall Semester First Year - Early Childhood Development and Education BS - Leadership Track
• Fall Semester First Year - Early Childhood Development and Education BS - Teaching Non-licensure Track
• Fall Semester Second Year - Education BS - Early Childhood - 3 Certification Track
• Fall Semester Second Year - Education BS - Englist/Language Arts, Social Studies Middle Grades Cert Track
• Summer Semester Second Year - Education BS - Math/Science Middle Grades Certification Track
• Summer Semester First Year - Education BS - Pre-K-6 General Certification Track

This are all the degrees available under Dept of Teaching, Learning and Culture within College of Education

I have no frigging idea why Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender and Queer Literatures would satisfy any degree requirements let alone Pre-K - 6 Grade or Early Childhood Development and Education degrees!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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If Mr. Sutton doesn't even know that Welsh did not graduate from A&M, perhaps he should stay out of the discussion

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Add to that, Josh has a severe case of TDS.

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Yeah, this is at the top of his Facebook page. Shocking.

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what's truly shocking is the Left's weak sauce meme game.

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Is this really a Left meme though?

All I see is Kamala trying to take another powerful man to bed.

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Yes, check out the movie Crip Camp (2020) if you get a chance. It's remarkable to think that it's only been a generation since both private and public establishments have been required to be accessible. To this day I am aware of businesses that won't renovate their space because it would trigger ADA compliance to be updated. Every one of those protections was won with enormous resolve and bravery, and such a short time ago. Reversals are not a negligible concern.

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Awesome. I love that we try to assist people with physical disabilities.

What does that have to do with protecting a college instructor teaching future teachers to teach toddlers about the Gender Unicorn? Is that equivalent to putting in wheel chair ramps?

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still running with with future teachers lie?

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Are you saying that there were <2 students taking that class that are considering becoming English teachers from k-12? Because if that is true, then I told a lie. Otherwise, you are lying that I am a liar.

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still running with with future teachers lie?

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I haven't read every post, but exactly who else would be taking that class?

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Apparently, people that want to write children's books that are meant for adult audiences, like Harry Potter. Of course.

yes, Welsh could not adjust or change

his commitment to DEI kept him as Obama's AF Chief of Staff for 4 years

but it cut short his time as A&M president

it's the classic downfall of ideologues

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Looks like ENGL 333/WGST 333 Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender and Queer Literatures is a class that satisfies Language, Philosophy and Culture requirement for:

• Fall Semester First Year - Early Childhood Development and Education BS - Leadership Track
• Fall Semester First Year - Early Childhood Development and Education BS - Teaching Non-licensure Track
• Fall Semester Second Year - Education BS - Early Childhood - 3 Certification Track
• Fall Semester Second Year - Education BS - Englist/Language Arts, Social Studies Middle Grades Cert Track
• Summer Semester Second Year - Education BS - Math/Science Middle Grades Certification Track
• Summer Semester First Year - Education BS - Pre-K-6 General Certification Track

This are all the degrees available under Dept of Teaching, Learning and Culture within College of Education

I have no frigging idea why Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender and Queer Literatures would satisfy any degree requirements let alone Pre-K - 6 Grade or Early Childhood Development and Education degrees!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Why does it even exist?

On a side note, if TA-OP says something, believe the opposite to be true.

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Looks like ENGL 333/WGST 333 Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender and Queer Literatures is a class that satisfies Language, Philosophy and Culture requirement for:

• Fall Semester First Year - Early Childhood Development and Education BS - Leadership Track
• Fall Semester First Year - Early Childhood Development and Education BS - Teaching Non-licensure Track
• Fall Semester Second Year - Education BS - Early Childhood - 3 Certification Track
• Fall Semester Second Year - Education BS - Englist/Language Arts, Social Studies Middle Grades Cert Track
• Summer Semester Second Year - Education BS - Math/Science Middle Grades Certification Track
• Summer Semester First Year - Education BS - Pre-K-6 General Certification Track

This are all the degrees available under Dept of Teaching, Learning and Culture within College of Education

I have no frigging idea why Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender and Queer Literatures would satisfy any degree requirements let alone Pre-K - 6 Grade or Early Childhood Development and Education degrees!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Why does it even exist?

On a side note, if TA-OP says something, believe the opposite to be true.

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Except ENGL 333 is not the class that started this mess. It was 360. These are called moving goalposts.

Are you claiming ENG-333 isn't about Lesbian and Transgender Literature and isn't an elective that satisfies requirements for graduating with a BS in Teaching from College of Education, including Pre-K-6 and Early Childhood development?

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Looks like ENGL 333/WGST 333 Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender and Queer Literatures is a class that satisfies Language, Philosophy and Culture requirement for:

• Fall Semester First Year - Early Childhood Development and Education BS - Leadership Track
• Fall Semester First Year - Early Childhood Development and Education BS - Teaching Non-licensure Track
• Fall Semester Second Year - Education BS - Early Childhood - 3 Certification Track
• Fall Semester Second Year - Education BS - Englist/Language Arts, Social Studies Middle Grades Cert Track
• Summer Semester Second Year - Education BS - Math/Science Middle Grades Certification Track
• Summer Semester First Year - Education BS - Pre-K-6 General Certification Track

This are all the degrees available under Dept of Teaching, Learning and Culture within College of Education

I have no frigging idea why Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender and Queer Literatures would satisfy any degree requirements let alone Pre-K - 6 Grade or Early Childhood Development and Education degrees!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Why does it even exist?

On a side note, if TA-OP says something, believe the opposite to be true.

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Corruption and Marxism within the ivory towers are being exposed and some posters are doing a crappy job gaslighting. LOL.

"Hired, on-boarded, and led 54 faculty and staff (full time and part time) with 39 positions filled with female, immigrant, international, African-American, Latino/a/x,
LGBTQIA, and/or disabled applicants, including representation from the Philippines, South Africa, India, China, Iceland, Ghana, Thailand, Jamaica, and Germany."

🚨Are @GregAbbott_TX's Regents at @tamusystem about to hire another DEI advocate as President of A&M Victoria!??

Christian Hardigree's CV is filled with DEI.. and THIS!:

"Hired, on-boarded, and led 54 faculty and staff (full time and part time) with 39 positions filled with… pic.twitter.com/nFmoTht8QE

— Brian Harrison (@brianeharrison) September 22, 2025

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"Hired, on-boarded, and led 54 faculty and staff (full time and part time) with 39 positions filled with female, immigrant, international, African-American, Latino/a/x,
LGBTQIA, and/or disabled applicants, including representation from the Philippines, South Africa, India, China, Iceland, Ghana, Thailand, Jamaica, and Germany."

🚨Are @GregAbbott_TX's Regents at @tamusystem about to hire another DEI advocate as President of A&M Victoria!??

Christian Hardigree's CV is filled with DEI.. and THIS!:

"Hired, on-boarded, and led 54 faculty and staff (full time and part time) with 39 positions filled with… pic.twitter.com/nFmoTht8QE

— Brian Harrison (@brianeharrison) September 22, 2025

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Why didn't Brian Harrison highlight the "and/or disabled" phrase?

At this very moment, I am actually reading an article in Chemical and Engineering News about disabled scientists, and how the administration is canceling grants to improve accessibility. Sorting out exactly how much of the $1B in NSF funding cuts for DEI in 2025 is affecting disabled people is difficult, likely because accessibility/disability is integrated so deeply into DEI. Depending on your view, and I allow there could be significant differences, at one extreme the administration is making war on the disabled. At the other extreme, people with disabilities are sustaining significant collateral damage. Either way, significant barriers are being raised.

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Sorting out exactly how much of the $1B in NSF funding cuts for DEI in 2025 is affecting disabled people is difficult, likely because accessibility/disability is integrated so deeply into DEI. Depending on your view, and I allow there could be significant differences, at one extreme the administration is making war on the disabled. At the other extreme, people with disabilities are sustaining significant collateral damage. Either way, significant barriers are being raised.

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That's a load of hooey. The ADA was passed and in effect decades before this DEI nonsense started. Not remotely in the same tranches.

I think it's been conflated (mistakenly) through common terms like "inclusive" and "equitable". Or even "access". Those terms have meant one thing for ADA for decades. But the DEI push has also used these terms and hence the conflation. I bet that's what's being referenced here.

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Sorting out exactly how much of the $1B in NSF funding cuts for DEI in 2025 is affecting disabled people is difficult, likely because accessibility/disability is integrated so deeply into DEI. Depending on your view, and I allow there could be significant differences, at one extreme the administration is making war on the disabled. At the other extreme, people with disabilities are sustaining significant collateral damage. Either way, significant barriers are being raised.

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That's a load of hooey. The ADA was passed and in effect decades before this DEI nonsense started. Not remotely in the same tranches.

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Trying to portray the dismantling of racist and bigoted DEI policies as an attack on disability rights is hilarious. You guys are shameless.

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I think it's been conflated (mistakenly) through common terms like "inclusive" and "equitable". Or even "access". Those terms have meant one thing for ADA for decades. But the DEI push has also used these terms and hence the conflation. I bet that's what's being referenced here.

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And none of that type of language is even in the ADA. I not advised employer clients how reach "reasonable accommodations" and what a BFOQ was. I also was part of owner of some really old commercial buildings that required retrofitting to comply with the act.

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Why didn't Brian Harrison highlight the "and/or disabled" phrase?

At this very moment, I am actually reading an article in Chemical and Engineering News about disabled scientists, and how the administration is canceling grants to improve accessibility. Sorting out exactly how much of the $1B in NSF funding cuts for DEI in 2025 is affecting disabled people is difficult, likely because accessibility/disability is integrated so deeply into DEI. Depending on your view, and I allow there could be significant differences, at one extreme the administration is making war on the disabled. At the other extreme, people with disabilities are sustaining significant collateral damage. Either way, significant barriers are being raised.

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WTF are you going on about? Wheel chair ramps? Republicans are against wheel chair ramps and handicap bathroom stalls? The freaking governor is in a wheel chair. Is TAMU building classrooms that violate building regulations? Did Welsh get fired for helping an old lady cross the road? or trying to trans the kids?

I should have clarified....I was speaking to the general conflation, which is used by we laypersons and also many of our elected officials. Legally, and technically, you are correct. But I frequently hear the term "inclusive" tied to both special education and of course DEI. That's where these terms bleed across multiple topics in general conversation.

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"Hired, on-boarded, and led 54 faculty and staff (full time and part time) with 39 positions filled with female, immigrant, international, African-American, Latino/a/x,
LGBTQIA, and/or disabled applicants, including representation from the Philippines, South Africa, India, China, Iceland, Ghana, Thailand, Jamaica, and Germany."

🚨Are @GregAbbott_TX's Regents at @tamusystem about to hire another DEI advocate as President of A&M Victoria!??

Christian Hardigree's CV is filled with DEI.. and THIS!:

"Hired, on-boarded, and led 54 faculty and staff (full time and part time) with 39 positions filled with… pic.twitter.com/nFmoTht8QE

— Brian Harrison (@brianeharrison) September 22, 2025

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Why didn't Brian Harrison highlight the "and/or disabled" phrase?

At this very moment, I am actually reading an article in Chemical and Engineering News about disabled scientists, and how the administration is canceling grants to improve accessibility. Sorting out exactly how much of the $1B in NSF funding cuts for DEI in 2025 is affecting disabled people is difficult, likely because accessibility/disability is integrated so deeply into DEI. Depending on your view, and I allow there could be significant differences, at one extreme the administration is making war on the disabled. At the other extreme, people with disabilities are sustaining significant collateral damage. Either way, significant barriers are being raised.

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One way to avoid that would be to avoid grants that include ADA and DEI funding in the same grant.

Pretty easy to use ADA based funding on DEI crap if it is in the same grant. Potentially a felony if you use a grant specifically for ADA to teach transgender stuff.

Easy problem to correct, just apply for ADA funding specifically. That won't get cancelled.

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Oh, trust me, that was not a mistake.

Step 1: purposefully conflate DEI and ADA.
Step 2: Use DEI to support Marxism.
Step 3: Claim that people attacking Marxism want to take away wheel chair access.

This is not a series of unintended consequences.

Libs have been using wheelchairs to attack R's for decades now.

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Sorting out exactly how much of the $1B in NSF funding cuts for DEI in 2025 is affecting disabled people is difficult, likely because accessibility/disability is integrated so deeply into DEI. Depending on your view, and I allow there could be significant differences, at one extreme the administration is making war on the disabled. At the other extreme, people with disabilities are sustaining significant collateral damage. Either way, significant barriers are being raised.

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That's a load of hooey. The ADA was passed and in effect decades before this DEI nonsense started. Not remotely in the same tranches.

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Not only that, Texas has its own accessibility standards code....


https://www.tdlr.texas.gov/ab/abtas.htm