Welsh Resigning

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Ulysses90
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Sid Farkas said:

Send up the bat signal for Ranger65


So he could do to Texas A&M what he did to the Boy Scouts of America?

Ranger65's mentorship is also what put Mark Milley on the path to CJCS.

Screw that. Keep him as far away as possible.
infinity ag
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Thank God we did not extend his contract and give him a $75M one.
A&M is known for doing stupid things like this.
DukeMu
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texink said:

Huge loss for A&M. Now we see what underqualified sycophant is acceptable to the politicians.

I hate to see a Cancel Culture boomerang affect Texas A&M. The students and faculty were overall supportive of Gen. Welsh. The opinions of the stakeholders should outweigh the politicians in power. It's a concerning precedent.

Where Gen. Welsh ran into issues was reversing his stand on congruence of the syllabus and course description. I found a previous semester's syllabus and it was reasonable in course objective given the undergraduate course description (no mention of gender ideology). I have not seen this semester's syllabus to determine whether there was a change. For core courses there should be some agreement, although each professor generally may have differences in approach within the confines of the course description.

TBH, I don't know the context of the student-teacher discussion re: gender roles through yesterday's or today's lens. I thought both student and teacher were respectful in the viral video. Gender roles and raising children couldn't have been much different over 100+ years ago, and varied widely between rural and more urban environments. It wasn't unusual for boys to be in a dress or blouse prior to regularly attending school. Christopher Robin (Winnie the Pooh) had long hair and wore a blouse and shorts in the original AA Milne drawings. How this fits into today's gender/trans political controversies or into the content discussed in the class I wouldn't hazard to guess.

Generally course syllabi are not reviewed before posting on Howdy. There may have been an internal yearly review in English. Maybe Gen. Welsh knew beforehand of deviation from the syllabus or course description, but without direct evidence that seems unlikely. It's just not S.O.P.


Given that A&M has lost a department head, Dean, and a solid President, as well as the faculty, there should be a full investigation with findings made public,

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Infection_Ag11
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[No need for the vulgarity. You can make your point without it -- Staff]
Bucketrunner
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Only if that investigation is to root out those still teaching DEI
Honey Badger TX
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This!
P.H. Dexippus
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Sid Farkas said:

Send up the bat signal for Ranger65

Hard pass. You Boy Scouts lately?
Infection_Ag11
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rab79 said:

Bowtie needs to either be the interim, on the selection committee or the new permanent president.


Loftin, who I love and is an excellent man/was an excellent President, is meaningfully to the left of Welsh.

I like both men and don't mean to attack either, but it just goes to show how stupid this discussion is.
Texas 8&4
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Yesssssssssssssssss

Now, please get a conservative replacement.
Aggie Dad 26
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He and Jimmy Kimmel can cry in the same beer together
Jbob04
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LFG!!!!
M1911
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Bob Gates is too liberal for people like Harrison at this point. Bowen Loftin is too liberal. Earl Rudder himself would be pushed out for being too liberal. We have no prayer of finding anyone half as good as Welsh, and are just going to have to deal with someone that's going to be wholly unqualified to run an institution as big as TAMU. I just hope that they don't destroy A&M in the process.
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DukeMu said:

texink said:

Huge loss for A&M. Now we see what underqualified sycophant is acceptable to the politicians.

I hate to see a Cancel Culture boomerang affect Texas A&M. The students and faculty were overall supportive of Gen. Welsh. The opinions of the stakeholders should outweigh the politicians in power. It's a concerning precedent.

Where Gen. Welsh ran into issues was reversing his stand on congruence of the syllabus and course description. I found a previous semester's syllabus and it was reasonable in course objective given the undergraduate course description (no mention of gender ideology). I have not seen this semester's syllabus to determine whether there was a change. For core courses there should be some agreement, although each professor generally may have differences in approach within the confines of the course description.

TBH, I don't know the context of the student-teacher discussion re: gender roles through yesterday's or today's lens. I thought both student and teacher were respectful in the viral video. Gender roles and raising children couldn't have been much different over 100+ years ago, and varied widely between rural and more urban environments. It wasn't unusual for boys to be in a dress or blouse prior to regularly attending school. Christopher Robin (Winnie the Pooh) had long hair and wore a blouse and shorts in the original AA Milne drawings. How this fits into today's gender/trans political controversies or into the content discussed in the class I wouldn't hazard to guess.

Generally course syllabi are not reviewed before posting on Howdy. There may have been an internal yearly review in English. Maybe Gen. Welsh knew beforehand of deviation from the syllabus or course description, but without direct evidence that seems unlikely. It's just not S.O.P.


Given that A&M has lost a department head, Dean, and a solid President, as well as the faculty, there should be a full investigation with findings made public,



Whut????
Infection_Ag11
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Infection_Ag11 said:

[No need for the vulgarity. You can make your point without it -- Staff]


Check your email, Matt
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Sid Farkas said:

Send up the bat signal for Ranger65


uh, no. Worst of the worst - though he played his hand well while he was here.
BadMoonRisin
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When is the dozen man protest?
Texas 8&4
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M1911 said:

Bob Gates is too liberal for people like Harrison at this point. Bowen Loftin is too liberal. Earl Rudder himself would be pushed out for being too liberal. We have no prayer of finding anyone half as good as Welsh, and are just going to have to deal with someone that's going to be wholly unqualified to run an institution as big as TAMU. I just hope that they don't destroy A&M in the process.

We will be okay without you. Thank you for your service Mr. Welsh.
Texas 8&4
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Grandstanding
Jbob04
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Infection_Ag11 said:

Infection_Ag11 said:

[No need for the vulgarity. You can make your point without it -- Staff]


Check your email, Matt

You on first name basis with staff?? Interesting. Definitely explains why you never get banned
Gator92
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Welsh didn't lie. His statement referred to the current fall semester.

Doesn't excuse the fact that he was still encouraging Deans to meet DEI quotas.

Glad he's out...
Justin2010
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Welsh is a good man and a great leader. This is a loss for the university.
Texas 8&4
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He lied...on a recording...investigation over
Texas 8&4
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He did lie...claiming he had just heard about an incident that happened over the summer
Jbob04
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Justin2010 said:

Welsh is a good man and a great leader. This is a loss for the university.

Nah fam. If he was so good, he would still be here. He failed miserably here and has defied government orders on DEI. Did you not see how badly he mishandled the ****** bs?
Gator92
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FTAG 2000
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infinity ag said:

One more TexAgs victim.

I am waiting for Welsh to "break cover" and post here.


Believe he goes by Aggie1188
Aggie Dad 26
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Justin2010 said:

Welsh is a good man and a great leader. This is a loss for the university.

In your mind it is. In the real world it is not
Logos Stick
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We keep hiring and firing woke presidents.
Gator92
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Texas 8&4 said:

He did lie...claiming he had just heard about an incident that happened over the summer

You can believe that, but the prof in question kept on w/ the curriculum from the summer to the fall.
94chem
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PaulsBunions said:

Does Hegar pick the new one?


Allegedly. That's why he resigned, so governor tort hypocrite wouldn't get to do it.
94chem,
That, sir, was the greatest post in the history of TexAgs. I salute you. -- Dough
one safe place
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M1911 said:

Bob Gates is too liberal for people like Harrison at this point. Bowen Loftin is too liberal. Earl Rudder himself would be pushed out for being too liberal. We have no prayer of finding anyone half as good as Welsh, and are just going to have to deal with someone that's going to be wholly unqualified to run an institution as big as TAMU. I just hope that they don't destroy A&M in the process.

If the replacement follows the law, does not try to go around it or university policy, is not a DEI fan, and does not lie, then he or she will be ten times as good as Welsh. It isn't all that much to ask.
valvemonkey91
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Can we PLEASE hire a president and not some leftist ideologue this time? How about a non academic, Christian family man former student who was in the corp, grew up in rural Texas in 4H and FFA, and had a long successful career in O&G?
Buck Turgidson
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Now that Sharp is gone, I feel more hopeful that we can hire a president who is not a leftist wolf in sheep's clothing. It would be nice the have one who makes it long term. The office has been a revolving door of bad picks for a long time now.

Also, it appears that my comment about Hegar not being woke passed its first real test.
Who?mikejones!
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AgEngr12 said:

one safe place said:

Hank the Grifter said:

Most high ranking military types are gonna lean liberal. It's incredible what they've done to field grade officers over the past couple of decades.
Most academics are gonna lean liberall even moreso.
Need to hire a guy who built and ran a successful business before retiring or selling it off.

Exactly. I am not willing to take the risk with another military officer or academics. Avoid both.
I feel like a lot of ex-military lean conservative (hell, our roots as a military institution are probably why A&M leans conservative).....Sharp just plucked one of the few that was (clearly) a woke liberal.



None who got their promotion from Obama, trump 1 or Biden are worth the risk.
 
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