2000AgPhD said:

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Here's what is bothering me about this - everyone involved in the Signal fiasco apparently distrusts/dislikes/hates Goldberg. Why would anyone have his phone number in the first place? Was the anonymous staffer a resistance plant?

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Signal doesn't use phone numbers per se. You have a user name on Signal. You phone number is linked to your account, but it is only visible to people if they are on your phones contact list.

From Signal:

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As a new default, your phone number will no longer be visible to everyone in Signal. You can opt to display your phone number. However, people who have your number saved in their phone's contacts will still see your phone number, regardless of your settings, since they already know it.

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Also, if your "alias", irrespective of your user name is... Jeffery Goldberg, your default avatar would be JG. Without actually clicking on JG's profile, you would not know what the actual username is. Also, there is talk that Mike Waltz was trying to add Jamieson Greer who would have also shown up as JG.

But Mike Waltz stated he didn't know Goldberg and didn't have him as a contact. But if he added him to the group, then he was probably in his contacts.

So you're down to hypothetical what-abouts now?

It's been a tough year for leftists and mental gymnastics

AgBQ-00 said:

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timing of an attack but no location? about the same as was done. We would have thought it was part of their ongoing fight with China or something else.
look at Midway. We knew an attack was coming but would not mobilize until the location was sussed out and verified.

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nm

FrioAg 00 said:

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Most of the world, even today, would have simply removed themselves from the chat after the first text which made it obvious they were supposed to be on it, or replied with - "not sure what this is or why I was invited"

But of course, The Atlantic stays, remains silent, screenshots everything and hopes they've really got something good to score political points.


That's why they are indeed scum bags

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And had this happened to them under the Biden admin (and who knows if it did), they would have done exactly as mentioned here and would have never said a word about it. I am glad they made it public so that things can get corrected so do not really view this as a political issue because we all know government screws up all the time (and often with no real recourse, which is why a lot of us want less government), but the reason they made it public was solely for political purposes and would have never made it public had their party been the culprit.

FrioAg 00 said:

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Most of the world, even today, would have simply removed themselves from the chat after the first text which made it obvious they were supposed to be on it, or replied with - "not sure what this is or why I was invited"

But of course, The Atlantic stays, remains silent, screenshots everything and hopes they've really got something good to score political points.


That's why they are indeed scum bags

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If this had not come out, the administration would have kept doing what they're doing. Some of the diehard Trump supporters here agree that some comms policies should be changed. Thankfully there doesn't appear to be more at this time.

Sunlight being the best disinfectant and all that jazz.

nortex97 said:

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Charpie said:

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BlackGold said:

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Is that info really Jesus Christ level bad? Looks to be more completely innocuous messaging with no real classified intel or info.

The bigger issue is why are we using Signal? DARPA can't build us an in-house product?

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Completely agree.

Not to mention that Signal gives you blueprints as to how to spin up your own private server.

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Again, this was a leftover Recommendation to use Signal from Biden admin (and IT installed the apps on the executive branch employees phones before they got them). I've yet to see a democrat on the thread acknowledge this. Continuity between administrations in opsec/modes of communication is normal. As is Witkoff using his sole govt issue phone while in Moscow.

.@SteveWitkoff was provided a secure line of communication by the U.S. Government, and it was the only phone he had in his possession while in Moscow.

If the Wall Street Journal Editorial Board cared about the truth, they could have reached out to our team for comment before… pic.twitter.com/aFI5ALTwHQ

— Karoline Leavitt (@PressSec) March 26, 2025

Presumably, a shift from Telegram/Signal types of commercial apps might be in the works at this point.

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Conveniently has been left out of this convo. Thanks for posting

FrioAg 00 said:

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Most of the world, even today, would have simply removed themselves from the chat after the first text which made it obvious they were supposed to be on it, or replied with - "not sure what this is or why I was invited"

But of course, The Atlantic stays, remains silent, screenshots everything and hopes they've really got something good to score political points.


That's why they are indeed scum bags

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I'm starting to wonder if it was a simple accident. That's certainly possible but for all the journalists in the world it goes to the one who has written more hit pieces on Trump and his admin than just about any other publication, at least the ones the legacy media tries to amplify like the "suckers and losers" hoax. It almost seems like it was coordinated but naaaah, CIA/deep state would NEVER do that.

Again, if Ben Shapiro was on a Biden signal chat eyebrows would certainly be raised.

Haven't read through 19 pages and don't believe any specifics I could read online.

Just going to mention that every administration "leaks" "intelligence" to the media.

I have personally seen top secret intel reported up through the proper channels to the white house, only to read about it in a "leak" to newsweek, two weeks later.

Hilarious the pearl clutching from libtards. Nothing this administration can do to make our country as vulnerable as Obama and Biden made us

YNWA_AG said:

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Don't like krassenstein but he shared all of the message from the new drop.

BREAKING: Jeffrey Goldberg from The Atlantic @TheAtlantic has just released the FULL Text Message Chain.

I have provided all texts in this post and the thread below:

CHECK MATE! 🧵 pic.twitter.com/UvSj4jJdHi

— Brian Krassenstein (@krassenstein) March 26, 2025

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Some context from Jeffery Goldberg's latest article.

"The statements by Hegseth, Gabbard, Ratcliffe, and Trump - combined with the assertions made by numerous administration officials that we are lying about the content of the Signal texts - have led us to believe that people should see the texts in order to reach their own conclusions.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/03/signal-group-chat-attack-plans-hegseth-goldberg/682176/

Oh and let's look back at journalists meeting Us Marines coming ashore in Somalia live on TV for the world to watch. IIRC they were talking about which Marine units would be doing the landing and all that info well before it kicked off.

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AgBQ-00 said:

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What is classified about a carrier is going to launch f18s and use drones and tomahawk missiles? This is all publicly available info as far as assets on a carrier. The timing info is useless without target or location. Should the journo be in the group? No. That is the only issue. The click baity "war plans" talking point was so gleefully spread that it kills this story.

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Imagine what we could have done with that knowledge on December 7, 1941.

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ETFan said:

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Incredibly clear this admin can do no wrong in the eyes of maga.

Maga Playbook:

1. That didn't happen
2. Ok it happened, but it's not that bad
3. It happened and was justified! Especially if it "pwned" a lib

All the while deflecting and whatabouting!

This admin is killing CISA, MITRE, etc. They don't give two ****s about op or IT sec. Complete, undeniable joke.

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Incredibly clear this admin can do no right in the eyes of the left.

So pull that telephone pole out of yours...

🚨BREAKING: Rogue Judge Boasberg has been assigned to the lawsuit involving the Signal chat with Pete Hegseth, Mike Waltz and more security officials. pic.twitter.com/n3t4JnGpCb

— Benny Johnson (@bennyjohnson) March 26, 2025

v1rotate92 said:

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Hilarious the pearl clutching from libtards. Nothing this administration can do to make our country as vulnerable as Obama and Biden made us

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Yeah but if you mention the MILLIONS of unvetted people allowed into this country and we know some are terrorists in sleeper cells who God knows will be activated you're just met with "whataboutism" or some other feeble reply.

Lawsuit filed by American Oversight against Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, DNI Tulsi Gabbard, CIA Director John Ratcliffe, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent, Secretary of State and acting Archivist Marco Rubio, and the U.S. National Archives and Records Administration for violation of the Federal Records Act.

https://americanoversight.org/litigation/american-oversight-v-hegseth-gabbard-ratcliffe-bessent-rubio-and-nara-regarding-military-actions-planned-on-signal-messaging-app/

will25u said:

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BREAKING - DC federal judge James Boasberg has been assigned to oversee the Signal-gate lawsuit.

You can’t make this up.

— Right Angle News Network (@Rightanglenews) March 26, 2025

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Who are we suing?

One post above yours.

will25u said:

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BREAKING - DC federal judge James Boasberg has been assigned to oversee the Signal-gate lawsuit.

You can’t make this up.

— Right Angle News Network (@Rightanglenews) March 26, 2025

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This has to be a parody account. If not even the Babylon Bee would be like "welp, our work here is done."

What a complete joke if that chode is the judge. Definitely time to defund that court and let the legacy media stomp their feet like the petulant children they are.

will25u said:

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BREAKING - DC federal judge James Boasberg has been assigned to oversee the Signal-gate lawsuit.

You can’t make this up.

— Right Angle News Network (@Rightanglenews) March 26, 2025

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He better have a very good security detail.

You know how if you take your food back at a fast food joint because it was wrong and you demand a refund, there's a good chance they spit in your food? This is the same thing but for removing USAID journo funding.

One ongoing issue for all of us, whether we recognize it or not, is that we can't be sure who we are dealing with on-line.

Signal is good for what they do, but they do not appear to have anything to tie whoever you are discussion serious matters with.

For example, I have a username (31 characters long) and include it in my e-mail signature. It makes it easy for someone to contact me on it, but I have no way of knowing who is contacting me. Signal is good enough for things that don't matter much, but I sure wouldn't want to use it for something that has to be kept secret.

I wold hope that the security of the government's apps would be able to allow those using the apps to accurately identify everyone in their conversation.

This is an even bigger problem for text messages and for e-mail.

No locations.

No sources & methods.

NO WAR PLANS.

Foreign partners had already been notified that strikes were imminent.

BOTTOM LINE: President Trump is protecting America and our interests.

— Mike Waltz (@MikeWaltz47) March 26, 2025

Flashback to 2017, when @TheAtlantic called Signal “the gold standard of encrypted messaging” — and admitted it was used by Obama and Hillary Clinton staffers. pic.twitter.com/jfKyBsJJ7K

— Rapid Response 47 (@RapidResponse47) March 26, 2025

Tony Franklins Other Shoe said:

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eric76 said:

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AgBQ-00 said:

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What is classified about a carrier is going to launch f18s and use drones and tomahawk missiles? This is all publicly available info as far as assets on a carrier. The timing info is useless without target or location. Should the journo be in the group? No. That is the only issue. The click baity "war plans" talking point was so gleefully spread that it kills this story.

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Imagine what we could have done with that knowledge on December 7, 1941.

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December 7, 1941 was the date of the Japanese attack against Pearl Harbor. I'm surprised that you don't seem to know that.

FrioAg 00 said:

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Most of the world, even today, would have simply removed themselves from the chat after the first text which made it obvious they were supposed to be on it, or replied with - "not sure what this is or why I was invited"

But of course, The Atlantic stays, remains silent, screenshots everything and hopes they've really got something good to score political points.


That's why they are indeed scum bags

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Had this happened 6 months prior with Kamala et al, I would want them eviscerated. And to say that an administration shouldn't be called out for a terrible lapse in security judgement is like saying "if we find out our government is dropping the ball we should just keep quiet".
Goldberg first contact the parties involved and they could have admitted the error and worked to keep him quiet but they either denied or acted like it wasn't a big deal.

Had some one on the bad guys side received this information in the 2 hrs prior to it being discussed (not from the journalist but from some other bad actor who hacked the chat, etc) we could be looking at a FUBAR mission with dead pilots.

There seems to be a real sickness in peoples lack of ability to be critical of the government when called for, regardless of who's in charge. That kind of tacit conceit leads to very bad things.

LIke much of what seems to be going on in the first couple of months of this administration, I applaud the intent, but the execution of some of these things is bush league. I don't doubt BIden's admin was worse but how that makes it alright to just excuse every snafu now is just lunacy. The bench mark should never be 'well its not nearly as bad as Biden' . If that's all we now expect of our elected government officials then we deserve what we get for not calling them on the mistakes as much as praising for the successes.

Laura Ingraham couldn't wrap her mind around how the Atlantic reporter's number ended up on Michael Waltz's phone.

"But you've never talked to him [Jeffrey Goldberg] before, so how's the number on your phone?"

Waltz: "Well, if you have somebody else's contact and then somehow… pic.twitter.com/PM8faF0ipt

— George (@BehizyTweets) March 25, 2025

These people aren't even any good at being completely full of *****

will25u said:

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No locations.

No sources & methods.

NO WAR PLANS.

Foreign partners had already been notified that strikes were imminent.

BOTTOM LINE: President Trump is protecting America and our interests.

— Mike Waltz (@MikeWaltz47) March 26, 2025

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No war plans?



Then what label are we making-up for this gem?

Were mistakes made? Yes. Clean them up and create safeguards so that it won't happen again. Review anything that was approved policy under the Biden administration. Let the left blow their stacks as long as they want but this administration has to keep its eyes on the goal. Keep punching hard and fast. Move on and keep doing the work Americans elected the president to do.

Just was posting for completeness of thread.

But I do agree, that message is where all of this hinges, right?

I don't see much there, but it is a bad look of course.

The biggest thing about this whole deal is that SOMEHOW a reporter got put on the group chat. THAT is the biggest thing that needs to change... STOP USING SIGNAL FOR THINGS THAT SHOULD BE SENT ON BETTER SECURE NETWORKS.

rgvag11 said:

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will25u said:

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No locations.

No sources & methods.

NO WAR PLANS.

Foreign partners had already been notified that strikes were imminent.

BOTTOM LINE: President Trump is protecting America and our interests.

— Mike Waltz (@MikeWaltz47) March 26, 2025

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No war plans?



Then what label are we making-up for this gem?

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That probably got "sucked in" from something else. Seems to happen to Mike a lot.

rgvag11 said:

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will25u said:

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No locations.

No sources & methods.

NO WAR PLANS.

Foreign partners had already been notified that strikes were imminent.

BOTTOM LINE: President Trump is protecting America and our interests.

— Mike Waltz (@MikeWaltz47) March 26, 2025

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No war plans?



Then what label are we making-up for this gem?

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There is no location mentioned at all. Just give it up. This is a nothing-burger. You are so desperate.

It happens all the time. I have contacts on my phone that I've never talked to before in my life, but they were on my wife's phone from 10 years ago. This is just a desperate attempt at a "gotcha", and really the first one of this administration that isn't clinging on to a loser of a position like not deporting gang killers or forcing men into womens sports.

it was TWENTY THREE minutes before the first bombs started dropping

this wasn't an attack on the Soviet Union in 1975.

it was over the desert in Yemen in 2025.

Phatbob said:

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It happens all the time. I have contacts on my phone that I've never talked to before in my life, but they were on my wife's phone from 10 years ago. This is just a desperate attempt at a "gotcha", and really the first one of this administration that isn't clinging on to a loser of a position like not deporting gang killers or forcing men into womens sports.

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Are you comparing your wife's contact list to people discussing war plans?

FrioAg 00 said:

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Most of the world, even today, would have simply removed themselves from the chat after the first text which made it obvious they were supposed to be on it, or replied with - "not sure what this is or why I was invited"

But of course, The Atlantic stays, remains silent, screenshots everything and hopes they've really got something good to score political points.


That's why they are indeed scum bags

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Yeah, right.

Definitely.

People always delete emails they get when they are clearly not meant for them. They never read them and divulge information for personal gain. Yep.....for sure. LOL.