High level officials accidentally include Atlantic editor in group chat

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AtticusMatlock
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3:35p, 3/24/25
Apparently VP Vance, Hegseth, and other top officials were discussing potential strikes on Houthi positions via the Signal app. The only problem was they accidentally included the editor of The Atlantic in their group chat. National Security advisor Mike Waltz apparently made the error in inviting him to the group. Screenshots have now been posted.



Heads need to roll over this. Absolutely insane opsec here.
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3:36p, 3/24/25
Welcome to the new clown show, almost as fun as the old clown show!
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3:38p, 3/24/25
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3:38p, 3/24/25
Lock them up!!!

That's what we're supposed to do with people who use unsecured channels for classified government. communications, right guys?
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3:39p, 3/24/25
I communicate over Signal, encryption and all. But why would government officials be communicating over a group chat, whatever the mechanism? Don't they all live in the same three-square mile area in the seat of government?
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In reply to TOUCHDOWN! • 3:40p, 3/24/25
TOUCHDOWN! said:
Lock them up!!!

That's what we're supposed to do with people who use unsecured channels for classified government. communications, right guys?


What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Put Hillary's ass behind bars first otherwise you're suggesting two tiers of justice.
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In reply to Gaeilge • 3:40p, 3/24/25
Gaeilge said:
TOUCHDOWN! said:
Lock them up!!!

That's what we're supposed to do with people who use unsecured channels for classified government. communications, right guys?


What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Put Hillary's ass behind bars first otherwise you're suggesting two tiers of justice.
Deal
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In reply to javajaws • 3:40p, 3/24/25
javajaws said:
Welcome to the new clown show, almost as fun as the old clown show!

Almost, but what could be better than a Mooch.
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3:44p, 3/24/25
We all use SIGNAL through out DoD. They will find who added the wrong people to the chat.

I have my set to delete every chat at the end of 1 hour. I kick people out of Chatrooms to purge people.

To me it is not really a big deal. The CI group will be using this in there jokes for the next year.
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3:44p, 3/24/25
And of course Trump's response is to deflect any responsibility and attack The Atlantic.

"I'm not a big fan of the Atlantic. It's, to me, it's a magazine that's going out of business. I think it's not much of a magazine. But I know nothing about [the Goldberg article]."
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In reply to TOUCHDOWN! • 3:45p, 3/24/25
TOUCHDOWN! said:
Lock them up!!!

That's what we're supposed to do with people who use unsecured channels for classified government. communications, right guys?
Signal is a free, open-source, privacy-focused messaging app that uses end-to-end encryption to secure communications, ensuring only the sender and recipient can read messages.

Not exactly a private unclass server in the bathroom of a mom-and-pop general store.


Resident libs and cm's doing backflips thinking this is a got em.
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In reply to Gaeilge • 3:47p, 3/24/25
Gaeilge said:
TOUCHDOWN! said:
Lock them up!!!

That's what we're supposed to do with people who use unsecured channels for classified government. communications, right guys?


What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Put Hillary's ass behind bars first otherwise you're suggesting two tiers of justice.


Do it. You can even throw Bill in there for his relationship with Epstein. The two of them and Trump can all be cell buddies.
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In reply to TOUCHDOWN! • 3:48p, 3/24/25
TOUCHDOWN! said:
Gaeilge said:
TOUCHDOWN! said:
Lock them up!!!

That's what we're supposed to do with people who use unsecured channels for classified government. communications, right guys?


What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Put Hillary's ass behind bars first otherwise you're suggesting two tiers of justice.


Do it. You can even throw Bill in there for his relationship with Epstein. The two of them and Trump can all be cell buddies.
Fair trade. Mike Waltz for Hillary and Bill.
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In reply to usmcbrooks • 3:48p, 3/24/25
That doesn't really matter if you're going to send those encrypted messages to random journalists, does it?
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In reply to FCBlitz • 3:49p, 3/24/25
FCBlitz said:
We all use SIGNAL through out DoD. They will find who added the wrong people to the chat.

I have my set to delete every chat at the end of 1 hour. I kick people out of Chatrooms to purge people.

To me it is not really a big deal. The CI group will be using this in there jokes for the next year.

They already know who did. It was mentioned in the OP.
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In reply to TOUCHDOWN! • 3:50p, 3/24/25
TOUCHDOWN! said:
That doesn't really matter if you're going to send those encrypted messages to random journalists, does it?
National Security advisor Mike Waltz apparently made the error in inviting him to the group. Screenshots have now been posted.

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3:50p, 3/24/25

Why is no one asking why the editor of the Atlantic then spread the info? That would not have happened in WW II because of national loyalty more than any fear of FDR.
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In reply to titan • 3:52p, 3/24/25
titan said:

Why is no one asking why the editor of the Atlantic then spread the info? That would not have happened in WW II because of national loyalty more than any fear of FDR.
You already know why he spread the info.
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In reply to titan • 3:53p, 3/24/25
titan said:

Why is no one asking why the editor of the Atlantic then spread the info? That would not have happened in WW II because of national loyalty more than any fear of FDR.
If you read the article he makes it clear he left a lot out because he didn't want to compromise active intelligence agents or future war plans
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3:58p, 3/24/25
An honorable person would have quickly realized they were invited in error and exited the chat. They certainly wouldn't be publicizing anything about it, but journalists, especially of the left wing variety, aren't honorable people.
"If all mankind minus one, were of one opinion, and only one person were of the contrary opinion, mankind would be no more justified in silencing that one person, than he, if he had the power, would be justified in silencing mankind." - J.S. Mill
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3:59p, 3/24/25
This is definitely something where a head(s) to need to roll.
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In reply to NE PA Ag • 4:00p, 3/24/25
NE PA Ag said:
An honorable person would have quickly realized they were invited in error and exited the chat. They certainly wouldn't be publicizing anything about it, but journalists, especially of the left wing variety, aren't honorable people.
Exactly. Anything to hurt Trump or this country.
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In reply to Actual Talking Thermos • 4:01p, 3/24/25
Actual Talking Thermos said:
titan said:

Why is no one asking why the editor of the Atlantic then spread the info? That would not have happened in WW II because of national loyalty more than any fear of FDR.
If you read the article he makes it clear he left a lot out because he didn't want to compromise active intelligence agents or future war plans
No need for editor to mention the slip at all publicly, any part of it. The slightest thing can reveal something. Because some things overlap, once in a blue moon have been copied something a bit above my level. I treated it in opsec fashion as it deserved.
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In reply to Actual Talking Thermos • 4:01p, 3/24/25
Actual Talking Thermos said:
titan said:

Why is no one asking why the editor of the Atlantic then spread the info? That would not have happened in WW II because of national loyalty more than any fear of FDR.
If you read the article he makes it clear he left a lot out because he didn't want to compromise active intelligence agents or future war plans
Oh wow, how big of him! He just did something sh*tty and spiteful, instead of doing something EXTREMELY sh*tty and spiteful...and treasonous.
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In reply to NE PA Ag • 4:02p, 3/24/25
NE PA Ag said:
An honorable person would have quickly realized they were invited in error and exited the chat. They certainly wouldn't be publicizing anything about it, but journalists, especially of the left wing variety, aren't honorable people.
That "honorable person" paves the way for continued incompetence that may actually get Americans hurt or killed in the future. If senior leadership isn't held accountable for being so reckless, this kind of crap can and will happen again.

We should be glad that the journalist is an actual honorable person who took the personal risk to raise the alarm about this without jeopardizing the operation/security of our armed forces. Public scrutiny is the most powerful tool we have as Americans when it comes to keeping our government in check.
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4:02p, 3/24/25
This was really stupid. If this Kamala and the last admin, people would be going nuts on this forum over this
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In reply to NE PA Ag • 4:03p, 3/24/25
NE PA Ag said:
An honorable person would have quickly realized they were invited in error and exited the chat. They certainly wouldn't be publicizing anything about it, but journalists, especially of the left wing variety, aren't honorable people.


Out of curiosity, what is your opinion regarding the NYT & WP writing about the McNamara papers they were given that was leaked during the Nixon administration? Went all the way to the Supreme Court.
C/O 2013 - Company E2
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In reply to GarlandAg2012 • 4:04p, 3/24/25
GarlandAg2012 said:
NE PA Ag said:
An honorable person would have quickly realized they were invited in error and exited the chat. They certainly wouldn't be publicizing anything about it, but journalists, especially of the left wing variety, aren't honorable people.
That "honorable person" paves the way for continued incompetence that may actually get Americans hurt or killed in the future. If senior leadership isn't held accountable for being so reckless, this kind of crap can and will happen again.

We should be glad that the journalist is an actual honorable person who took the personal risk to raise the alarm about this without jeopardizing the operation/security of our armed forces. Public scrutiny is the most powerful tool we have as Americans when it comes to keeping our government in check.
That should be considered the absolute low bar bare minimum standard of behavior when it comes to something like this. There is nothing honorable about not intentionally putting armed American men and woman in danger out pf spite for a current presidential administration.

I get that liberals have warped systems of values and morals, but it's not some big sign of righteousness to not sabotage American armed forces or our military efforts.
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4:05p, 3/24/25
Maybe they had several journalists on the discussion, and they wanted to find which ones would leak the information.
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In reply to GarlandAg2012 • 4:06p, 3/24/25
GarlandAg2012 said:
NE PA Ag said:
An honorable person would have quickly realized they were invited in error and exited the chat. They certainly wouldn't be publicizing anything about it, but journalists, especially of the left wing variety, aren't honorable people.
That "honorable person" paves the way for continued incompetence that may actually get Americans hurt or killed in the future. If senior leadership isn't held accountable for being so reckless, this kind of crap can and will happen again.

We should be glad that the journalist is an actual honorable person who took the personal risk to raise the alarm about this without jeopardizing the operation/security of our armed forces.
Posting screenshots is not the "honorable" way to handle it. A spillage should have been reported immediately and not posted by a journalist, that is even worse than him receiving the messages in error. By posting those screens shots that "honorable" journalist, jeopardized the operational security of our armed forces.
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4:06p, 3/24/25
I know what Hillary would do to him.
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4:07p, 3/24/25
STAFF EDIT: will remove the name calling and keep rest of post - you have been warned.

So this is all the fault of The Atlantic? We shouldn't hold our leaders accountable for failing to implement and abide by controls to ensure highly classified military information isn't sent to random phone numbers? The press doesn't have an obligation to report on the incompetence of our government?

Wild. The right would be turning this into Benghazi 2.0 if it happened under Obama or Biden.
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4:07p, 3/24/25
The journalist should have known the messages weren't intended for them and should have let the people in the chat know that the communication was not secure. Just because you're included in a chat by accident doesn't give you carte blanche to post screenshots. There's a case for treason here.
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In reply to El Gallo Blanco • 4:07p, 3/24/25
El Gallo Blanco said:
GarlandAg2012 said:
NE PA Ag said:
An honorable person would have quickly realized they were invited in error and exited the chat. They certainly wouldn't be publicizing anything about it, but journalists, especially of the left wing variety, aren't honorable people.
That "honorable person" paves the way for continued incompetence that may actually get Americans hurt or killed in the future. If senior leadership isn't held accountable for being so reckless, this kind of crap can and will happen again.

We should be glad that the journalist is an actual honorable person who took the personal risk to raise the alarm about this without jeopardizing the operation/security of our armed forces. Public scrutiny is the most powerful tool we have as Americans when it comes to keeping our government in check.
That should be considered the absolute low bar bare minimum standard of behavior when it comes to something like this. There is nothing honorable about not intentionally putting armed American men and woman in danger.

I get that liberals have warped systems of values and morals, but it's not some big sign of righteousness to not sabotage American armed forces or our military efforts.
This makes me think you have not read the article.
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4:09p, 3/24/25

You are trying too much to make it partisan. An editor receiving such a communique by mistake from Biden's SecDef shouldn't post screenshots either. For the reasons usmcbrooks pointed out. It reveals things. Just notify those who need to know of the snafu so they can correct.
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