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In your professional opinion, what does "very few cops cross the line and do things the wrong way" mean?

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After giving this alot of thought, I typed out a lengthy and well thought out response. Then it suddenly disappeared. I won't re-type it all. The 2 in Houston in this case are criminals. There are very few of those in law enforcement. I sent a sheriff to prison when I was DA. Another sheriff in Presidio County went to the pen. These 2 were criminals. In the last 10 years 2-5 were prosecuted in the RGV, as was the DA in Brownsville, Of course, I am not counting the ones who get DWIs or even family violence cases. Those don't have anything to do with their profession.

Most of the problems are caused by officers who are not smart enough to know what they are doing is wrong. Felony stupid, like the current Texas Attorney General.

For the ones calling for no more "no knock" warrants, they are certainly over used. But they are absolutely needed. When LE rolls up to a house at 6:00 am of a known Mexican Mafia member with security cameras on every corner of the house, cops might as well be wearing a target as they stand at the door and knock. They do a job I want no part of, and I have accompanied them on search warrants in west Texas, San Antonio and Houston.

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DannyDuberstein said:

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I don't think there are a ton of cops that break the law. I do think there are a ton of cops that are willing to turn a blind eye to one that does tho.

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I have a friend that is hpd and has a very high kill count himself.

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What is your friend's "kill count?" Most policemen can go their whole careers without ever having to fire a gun in the line of duty. A guy with multiple kills should be pretty notorious.

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Goines was shot in the jaw.

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BQ_90 said:

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I viewed it as knock to the fights going on with the unions and mayors office.

But know that the truth is out the union leader needs to resign.

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SW AG80 said:

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I have been imbedded with with several law enforcement agencies the last 12 months. I can say with a high degree of certainty that one of the reasons Goines had not been fired is because he is black. That is pervasive though out every agency in government.

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there are cop haters. I dislike this fact.

I'll tell you what I hate. I hate abuse of power. I hate corruption. I hate govt officials covering up crimes under the color of law.

i dont trust cops or ADAs as far as I can spit. they are human. weak. liars. actors. driven, at times, by their lesser angels.

crime & criminals need to be dealt with, no doubt. but this mess illustrates why we cannot blanket trust cops, their superiors et al.

if that makes me a cop hater...I'll just be a cop hater.

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This is why there must be a very intense look at no knock warrants. These have the most potential for abuse of power IMO. And these guys need to wear cameras

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SW AG80 said:

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In your professional opinion, what does "very few cops cross the line and do things the wrong way" mean?

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After giving this alot of thought, I typed out a lengthy and well thought out response. Then it suddenly disappeared. I won't re-type it all. The 2 in Houston in this case are criminals. There are very few of those in law enforcement. I sent a sheriff to prison when I was DA. Another sheriff in Presidio County went to the pen. These 2 were criminals. In the last 10 years 2-5 were prosecuted in the RGV, as was the DA in Brownsville, Of course, I am not counting the ones who get DWIs or even family violence cases. Those don't have anything to do with their profession.

Most of the problems are caused by officers who are not smart enough to know what they are doing is wrong. Felony stupid, like the current Texas Attorney General.

For the ones calling for no more "no knock" warrants, they are certainly over used. But they are absolutely needed. When LE rolls up to a house at 6:00 am of a known Mexican Mafia member with security cameras on every corner of the house, cops might as well be wearing a target as they stand at the door and knock. They do a job I want no part of, and I have accompanied them on search warrants in west Texas, San Antonio and Houston.

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Well what's the point of wearing them then if they aren't turned on

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I find audits to be quite fascinating. Even with a camera these thugs continue to break the law. One (of many) examples is here and here. The entire point was non-violent provocation based on constitutionally protected acts. Each and every officer who does this deserves hot lead between the eyes.

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Good post, but you omitted Brig Marmolejo and Conrado Cantu.

In South Texas we don't tolerate corruption, we demand it.

This is a terrible deal in Houston, scary as hell. These no knock deals need to be stopped. Too many other ways to obtain the same results. It is just testosterone and adrenaline in action in today's electronic world.

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I find audits to be quite fascinating. Even with a camera these thugs continue to break the law. One (of many) examples is here and here. The entire point was non-violent provocation based on constitutionally protected acts. Each and every officer who does this deserves hot lead between the eyes.

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I share your hobby of watching audits but you need to roll it back a notch on the "lead between the eyes" statement.

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I believe police violate constitutional rights daily, and each one that does as well as those who are complicit should be fired at minimum.

I hope you are not saying that an officer should be fired because someone's constitutional rights were violated. Many, many times the trial court, then intermediate appellate courts and then the Supreme Court disagree on whether a search was good or not. And they are lawyers who have the benefit of analyzing it for years. Just because someone is kept on the side of the road for 5 minutes too long before a drug dog arrives--thus making the search bad as an impermissible search under the 4th Amendment--should not be grounds for firing or even reprimanding an officer. And these are the kinds of cases that happen every day and are decided by appellate courts every day. The case in Houston is an anomaly. Fortunately those cases do not happen very often. Don't take a worse case scenario as we have here and analogize it to every day occurrences such as was the traffic light red or yellow when the car went through the intersection. Because that stop could lead to a search that turns up 10 kilos of meth and whether the search was constitutional hinges on whether the traffic stop was good or not.

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You may already know this, but when I was told this I found it very interesting and an odd confluence of events. Gene Falcon, Conrado Cantu, and Brig Marmolejo all started their "law enforcement" careers together as TABC employee's, state tax collectors at the bridges and they all worked together at different points in time.

Brig was just selfish and greedy, Cantu and Falcon were bad motor scooters, especially Falcon. If 25% of the rumors and hearsay are true about him it is a terribly sad indicator of public malfeasance in law enforcement.

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SW AG80 said:

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I have been imbedded with with several law enforcement agencies the last 12 months. I can say with a high degree of certainty that one of the reasons Goines had not been fired is because he is black. That is pervasive though out every agency in government.

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SW AG80 said:

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I believe police violate constitutional rights daily, and each one that does as well as those who are complicit should be fired at minimum.

I hope you are not saying that an officer should be fired because someone's constitutional rights were violated. Many, many times the trial court, then intermediate appellate courts and then the Supreme Court disagree on whether a search was good or not. And they are lawyers who have the benefit of analyzing it for years. Just because someone is kept on the side of the road for 5 minutes too long before a drug dog arrives--thus making the search bad as an impermissible search under the 4th Amendment--should not be grounds for firing or even reprimanding an officer. And these are the kinds of cases that happen every day and are decided by appellate courts every day. The case in Houston is an anomaly. Fortunately those cases do not happen very often. Don't take a worse case scenario as we have here and analogize it to every day occurrences such as was the traffic light red or yellow when the car went through the intersection. Because that stop could lead to a search that turns up 10 kilos of meth and whether the search was constitutional hinges on whether the traffic stop was good or not.

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