Definitely Not A Cop said:

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DallasTeleAg said:

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Definitely Not A Cop said:

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Can I ask a dumb question here? Why didn't Sauron make another ring after he was defeated the first time? Would he not be able to even with Sauramon helping him?

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Because he poured his power into the One Ring. When he lost it, he lost a lot of his power. He doesn't have an unlimited amount of power.

Call it soul, spirit, mana, power, or whatever you would like. Pretty standard among fantasy that a being has a certain amount of power to draw from. If it is some form of renewable energy, that's one thing. If it is part of your being, then you are investing that part of your being into an artifact or spell, and must recover it to be whole.

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Got you. Kind of like Sandman with his **** then. The artifact let's you focus your power more specifically in ways that you couldn't do if you didn't have it.

So were the other rings part of his power too? And the idea was he was just setting them up to be enslaved once he made the one ring?

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Three Rings for the Elven-kings under the sky,
Seven for the Dwarf-lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Men doomed to die,
One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.
One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them,
One Ring to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them,
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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DallasTeleAg said:

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Definitely Not A Cop said:

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DallasTeleAg said:

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Definitely Not A Cop said:

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Can I ask a dumb question here? Why didn't Sauron make another ring after he was defeated the first time? Would he not be able to even with Sauramon helping him?

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Because he poured his power into the One Ring. When he lost it, he lost a lot of his power. He doesn't have an unlimited amount of power.

Call it soul, spirit, mana, power, or whatever you would like. Pretty standard among fantasy that a being has a certain amount of power to draw from. If it is some form of renewable energy, that's one thing. If it is part of your being, then you are investing that part of your being into an artifact or spell, and must recover it to be whole.

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Got you. Kind of like Sandman with his **** then. The artifact let's you focus your power more specifically in ways that you couldn't do if you didn't have it.

So were the other rings part of his power too? And the idea was he was just setting them up to be enslaved once he made the one ring?

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Someone else more read on the the deeper history would have to answer this. It is my understanding that the other rings were more magical artifacts that were created. The One Ring was created in secret to rule over the others. This is why Sauron poured his own essence into this ring. It was a different kind of power than the other rings.

At least, that is how I have always understood it. At the end of the day, LotR has a very soft magic system, so a lot of it is left up to interpretation.

EDIT: This is why the One Ring was inherently evil/corrupting. The other rings provided their bearers power, as long as they didn't abuse it. Gandalf and Galadriel famously used the power of their rings throughout their lives.

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The Debt said:

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Havent watched it yet, but heard a writer critiquing it saying characters spoke the words "okay" multiple times in the first episode, so it wasnt just a bad take that snuck in during editing, someone had to write this a number of times it was used. The writer asked if the people working on this even realize how lazy their writing is. Throwing modern phrases into a fantasy world, one that takes place before the Jackson films in these lands, you would try and emulate the success of Jacksons script, because you sure AF wont approach the level of dialogue from Tolkien.

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You love forming strong opinions about shows you dont watch, huh

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Brian Earl Spilner said:

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New theory just occurred to me. What if the giant is the Balrog?

We know he began as Maiar, same as the other wizards. And there was the mention of the fire around him not being hot, which reminds me of Galadriel mentioning they're in a place so evil that their torches give off no warmth.

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redline248 said:

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So, show talk. What do we think the dwarves have? Mithril? Is this the time frame of its discovery?

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AgE2theBONE said:

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redline248 said:

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So, show talk. What do we think the dwarves have? Mithril? Is this the time frame of its discovery?

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I took it to be obvious it was the Arkenstone?

Is there any reason that might not be the case?

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redline248 said:

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AgE2theBONE said:

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redline248 said:

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So, show talk. What do we think the dwarves have? Mithril? Is this the time frame of its discovery?

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I took it to be obvious it was the Arkenstone?

Is there any reason that might not be the case?

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Dwarves haven't gone to the lonely mountain yet to find it

(at least I think)

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JJxvi said:

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Did anybody else but the harfoots see the meteor? In modern tv writing style I guess theres a possibility that its Gandalf but its not happening at the same time as the rest of the story.

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redline248 said:

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They showed the elves and maybe humans watching it fly. Apparently none of them cared about it after that, though.

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DallasTeleAg said:

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I have always been under the impression the Istari all came over at the same time. The Blue wizards definitely were together, I thought.

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You've typed multiple paragraphs about a show you arent watching.

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DallasTeleAg said:

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But didn't all the Istari sail across the sea? Gandalf definitely did. The Valar didn't send them over in a fireball, basically as newborns with no knowledge of the language or what they're even doing here.

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DallasTeleAg said:

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But didn't all the Istari sail across the sea? Gandalf definitely did. The Valar didn't send them over in a fireball, basically as newborns with no knowledge of the language or what they're even doing here.

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MaroonStain said:

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How does all of this tie into together?

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