Solo Tetherball Champ said:
My favorite LOTR meme:
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Wow.West Texan said:
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Solo Tetherball Champ said:Wow.West Texan said:
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That had me rolling at "I don't live in JONdor!
Brian Earl Spilner said:
The single greatest addition (to me) was the Boromir / Denethor flashback. For all of his faults, Jackson did right by Boromir. Every other scene really didn't seem necessary to me, with the possible exception of getting closure to the Saruman subplot, but I felt like that should have naturally been in Two Towers.Brian Earl Spilner said:
In no order:
- The death of Saruman
- The Mouth of Sauron
- The Boromir / Denethor flashback (Which gives you a whole new level of understanding/apprecation for Boromir in FOTR.)
- Eowyn / Aragorn scene in TTT (Her feeding him the awful soup, and him revealing his true age.)
Overall, I feel like ROTK is the only one which is the Extended version is preferable. In my most recent rewatch, I watched only the theatrical versions. (Which I hadn't done in a while.)
It wasn't until ROTK that I really felt like I was missing important scenes, like I watched an incomplete version. (That might just be due to me having seen the Extended version of ROTK way more times than the others.)
You keep saying this, but you haven't really made a good argument for it. I have to say I disagree with you strongly on that.Quote:
The only other notable thing about this scene in the movies is that Jackson once again showed he didn't understand what he was working with by making Aragorn kill the Mouth: good guys are good because they don't do stuff like that, this isn't Game of Thrones.
Good guys don't kill the messenger. Aragorn, IMO, would have respected that tradition.Brian Earl Spilner said:You keep saying this, but you haven't really made a good argument for it. I have to say I disagree with you strongly on that.Quote:
The only other notable thing about this scene in the movies is that Jackson once again showed he didn't understand what he was working with by making Aragorn kill the Mouth: good guys are good because they don't do stuff like that, this isn't Game of Thrones.
The good guys kid bad guys by the hundreds in both the books and the films.
I agree they are different, but I still feel that beheading the mouth was outside of movie Aragorn's character as well.Brian Earl Spilner said:
Book Aragorn, maybe. But we've firmly established that book Aragorn and movie Aragorn are two very different portrayals.
Doesn't necessarily mean that PJ didn't understand Tolkien. It's simply his own interpretation, as all adaptations are. That's what I take issue with.
powerbelly said:I agree they are different, but I still feel that beheading the mouth was outside of movie Aragorn's character as well.Brian Earl Spilner said:
Book Aragorn, maybe. But we've firmly established that book Aragorn and movie Aragorn are two very different portrayals.
Doesn't necessarily mean that PJ didn't understand Tolkien. It's simply his own interpretation, as all adaptations are. That's what I take issue with.
I have almost no problem with PJ's interpretation of him otherwise.
Fair enough. Agree to disagree.Brian Earl Spilner said:You keep saying this, but you haven't really made a good argument for it. I have to say I disagree with you strongly on that.Quote:
The only other notable thing about this scene in the movies is that Jackson once again showed he didn't understand what he was working with by making Aragorn kill the Mouth: good guys are good because they don't do stuff like that, this isn't Game of Thrones.
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The good guys kid bad guys by the hundreds in both the books and the films.
Brian Earl Spilner said:
100%.
He wanted to spare Wormtongue because this was a man who had served Theoden for many years, and might find remorse in his exile. (And turned out to be of vital importance as he took out Saruman.)
Mouth of Sauron? What good can he bring to the world after Sauron's defeat? He was literally taunting our heroes with the death and suffering of Frodo. How can you possibly not think he deserves death?
I guess we watched different scenes. In the version I saw, he didn't come out to broker a peace or give terms. He came to taunt and provocate. Got what he deserved.Quote:
The good guys don't execute the messenger, especially if he is unarmed.
Brian Earl Spilner said:I guess we watched different scenes. In the version I saw, he didn't come out to broker a peace or give terms. He came to taunt and provocate. Got what he deserved.Quote:
The good guys don't execute the messenger, especially if he is unarmed.