The movies that really stuck with me last year were Coco, get out. the big sick, call me by your name and lady Bird. Just seeing the clips of CMBYN again last night brought back the sense of heartache and beauty I got in the theatre. Chalamet was sooo good in that movie. I was disappointed that Laurie Mercalf didn't win - she was amazing.

Dunkirk was masterful film making but frustrating story telling in my opinion.

Call Me By Your Name just seemed like White Moonlight to me.

I didn't watch the Oscars, but Jumanji was the best movie of 2017.

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GiveEmHellBill said:

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The Shape of Water
Moonlight
Spotlight
Birdman
12 Years a Slave
Argo
The Artist
The King's Speech

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I know that I'm not really the audience here, but I had to Google four of the eight to find out what they are about. I've seen two, Argo and Birdman, on the movie channels. I'd be a little surprised if the 20-30 movies I've seen in theaters since 2012 include any BP nominees but i haven't checked.

Two movies (Argo and The Kings Speech) seem meant for "normal people". 12 Years is probably close, although clearly a Hollywood passion subject. For a boring middle American like myself, the rest look weird/artsy/political/uninteresting. Not saying they are, just commenting on my perception.

None of that says a single thing about whether they are any good. The two I saw were good, though Birdman was weird. It makes sense to me that the best movies are about things that Hollywood cares about because that's what they'll put their best effort into. So popularity doesn't mean much, but at the same time should cultural significance come into it?

After looking up Moonlight's plot I'm sure that Hollywood believes it is culturally significant, but having had to look up Moonlight's plot I sort of have to disagree.

I actually really enjoyed Spotlight

I enjoyed

The Darkest Hour - and Gary Oldman was very deserving
Dunkirk
I, Tonya - and Allison Janney was also very deserving



others

Get Out - meh, not as excited as others were it was ok
Three Billboards - though it was dry but good performances
The Post - it was ok at best, worst Tom Hanks performance in a long while actually


not nominated:

Wind River was better than some of the nominated films.

Spotlight is the best movie in that list.

I thought Greatest Showman was more entertaining than most of those nominated and deserved more nominations, especially in the set, costume and music categories.

I know TCTTS brought this up earlier, but as a regular listener of Bill Simmons I think I agree with his assessment that the best picture Oscar should be awarded 5 years later. The film that wins best picture should have some longevity to it. I don't know how many times the voters have a chance to see a film before they make a decision, once, twice? I think it would also curb the possibility that a knee jerk reaction to the social climate impacting the vote. In 5 years will the same voters think that The Shape of Water is still the best film of 2017? Maybe, but my gut is that a lot of them might lean to Dunkirk, Phantom Thread, or something else, maybe even a film not nominated this time around like Blade Runner 2049.

For 2017 I don't think Moonlight will hold up, I think it's fine, but not the best picture. I've seen all the nominees and Arrival and Hell or High Water were both better films to me, I think that Arrival didn't get the votes due to it being a sci-fi film but it really just floored me, which doesn't happen often. Hell or High Water was my favorite but it was basically the most Texas movie I had seen in a long time and a lot of voters might have just considered a heist film.

I only just recently saw Arrival and that was a really well done, thought provoking and interesting movie. That one probably did get overlooked because of the sci-fi.

They didn't have Bill Paxton or Adam West on the In Memoriam.

OUTRAGE

Paxton died one day before the Oscars last year. West is more of a TV guy and I'm sure he will be/was in the Emmy version.

Paxton was in last year's.

Brian Earl Spilner said:

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They didn't have Bill Paxton or Adam West on the In Memoriam.

OUTRAGE

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. It's based on the Oscar calendar

Living Legend said:

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Call Me By Your Name just seemed like White Moonlight to me.

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I thought so too. Though not necessarily a bad thing, they were very similar to me. The best part of both movies were the father figures who each at scenes they absolutely stole.

Head Ninja In Charge said:

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Living Legend said:

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Call Me By Your Name just seemed like White Moonlight to me.

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I thought so too. Though not necessarily a bad thing, they were very similar to me. The best part of both movies were the father figures who each at scenes they absolutely stole.

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I felt that the high school version of Chiron in Moonlight stole the show.

I think moonlight will absolutely hold up.

I loved Birdman but will probably never watch it again.

I missed most of the others on that list anyway.

My favorite movie every year is rarely what wins. My favorite movie this year, Coco, wasn't even nominated.

The real travesty was that Powers Boothe wasn't on the In Memoriam. That one is unforgivable. That guy was in some great movies.

GiveEmHellBill said:

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Let's face it: the Best Picture Oscar has pretty much been a joke for quite awhile now. Since 2010, it's been:

The Shape of Water
Moonlight
Spotlight
Birdman
12 Years a Slave
Argo
The Artist
The King's Speech

Honestly, who cares about ANY of these movies right now? There's not a single movie in that list that anyone'll be talking about in another 10 years. Does anyone even remember The Artist??

Hell, I had forgotten the previous three winners (Spotlight?) and I bet most ordinary people still think that La La Land won last year instead of Moonlight because Moonlight was utterly forgettable.

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I've only seen 12 years a Slave on that list. Imagining it will remain that way.

Get Out will age the best. Saw it in theaters last year and watched it with my GF the other night and still enjoyed it just as much. I will say Kaluuya was a little too stiff throughout the movie to warrant a nomination. But for me it was the most entertaining movie I saw this year.

Blade Runner was my second favorite of the year but I don't think it deserved a nomination for BP. I'm glad it took home cinematography. Just for that menage-a-hologram sex scene alone.

I'm glad Star Wars didn't win *****

Dunkirk was pretty meh stacked up next to most other Nolan films. I would have been disappointed had that been Nolan's first Oscar.

I didn't see any of the other big films in contention so don't have much to argue against.

I think looking back 5-10 years from now the movies that will be remembered by movie enthusiasts will be Blade Runner 2049 and Dunkirk.

Agree 100%.

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Brian Earl Spilner said:

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I thought it was great and much better than Shape of Water.

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I haven't seen SoW yet, but I would much prefer more movies like Get Out than more movies like The Post.

The Post to me seems like a formulaic oscar film and while its well acted and well done it doesn't excite me in the least. At least directors like Peele and del Torro are making something different.

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This question may seem random, but did you enjoy history classes in school?

Looking back at some of the years...man 2011 was thin.

2011:
The Artist
The Descendants
Extremely Loud & Incredibly Close
The Help
Hugo
Midnight in Paris
Moneyball
The Tree of Life
War Horse

Get Out and Dunkirk will age well, I think.

Lady Bird and CMBYN were both coming of age movies and both had a distinct sense of time and place, so I do think those will age well too. They were small stories told incredibly well. Lady Bird will resonate strongly with women due to the complex mother-daughter dynamics with 2 great performances. For me, CMBYN hit the all consuming heartache and joy of first love so perfectly - yes it was a gay love story but it was relatable and familiar in so many ways to anyone in love at that age.

Coco was a fantastic film and deserved the best animated picture and is in the conversation for best picture of the year. It was visually stunning with a fantastic story. Remember Me in the movie was so much better than the Oscars performance too.

The thing that really impressed me about CMBYN is that the gay aspect of it was such a non-factor in the overall story. And I don't mean in a "look at me, I'm so progressive" kind of way, but more in the way the story itself was told. There were no limitations or boundaries to their relationship, nobody was trying to separate them and his father was not shaming him about it. It was just a very well-told story that perfectly encapsulated those emotions and that heartbreak.

And with the timelessness of the story, I think it'll be one of the all-time great love stories for decades to come, in the vein of The Notebook or many others. (I've never seen that movie, but you get my point.)

And funny enough, the same is true of another of my favorite things I saw recently - the San Junipero episode of Black Mirror.

Bunk Moreland said:

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Looking back at some of the years...man 2011 was thin.

2011:
The Artist
The Descendants
Extremely Loud & Incredibly Close
The Help
Hugo
Midnight in Paris
Moneyball
The Tree of Life
War Horse

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2011 has been brought up before, and always has me wondering about Crazy, Stupid, Love. It was a great movie, with some quality acting. Why can't a rom-com win an Oscar, or at least get nominated? Steve Carroll and Ryan Gosling were both really good in their roles also. I know people will argue that anyone could have done those roles (which I don't agree) just like I wouldn't say anyone could have played Winston Churchill.

Moneyball has become maybe my favorite sports movie of all time, I just love it, to me it should have won best picture. The Help is a great film, and I enjoyed The Descendants as well. The Artist is a perfect example of a film that has zero longevity, and as such had no business being awarded best picture.

Yep, Moneyball definitely should have won that year.

2010-2012 were all misfires, IMO...

2010 - The Social Network should have won over The King's Speech
2011 - Moneyball should have won over The Artist
2012 - Zero Dark Thirty should have won over Argo

TCTTS said:

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Yep, Moneyball definitely should have won that year.

2010-2012 were all misfires, IMO...

2010 - The Social Network should have won over The King's Speech
2011 - Moneyball should have won over The Artist
2012 - Zero Dark Thirty should have won over Argo

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Agree with all these.

The King's Speech is amazing.

But I might be biased because Colin Firth is my boyfriend.



Really though, I love that movie. He is so amazing in it.

TCTTS said:

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2010 - The Social Network should have won over The King's Speech

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The Social Network was not only the best movie of that year, it's probably the best movie that's been made this century. It's hard to find a flaw in that movie.

GiveEmHellBill said:

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TCTTS said:

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2010 - The Social Network should have won over The King's Speech

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The Social Network was not only the best movie of that year, it's probably the best movie that's been made this century. It's hard to find a flaw in that movie.

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Really? I found that movie extremely boring. I'll give it another watch.