Kimmel with a "Hit 'Em With The Hein" at the end.

Am I the only one who was blown away by how sharp Yves Marie Saint still is at 93, especially given her limited public role that last decade or more?

ATM1876 said:

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I was arguably the most vocal advocate/defender of The Shape of Water on this board, and even I'm a little underwhelmed by this win. I admittedly have an almost irrational obsession with Dunkirk so I was going to be let down if any other film won, but it'll be interesting to see in five or ten years how people think about this one.

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Well, it's been 20 minutes and The Shape of Water winning Best Picture is already not aging well.

Yeah, this one won't be remembered well at all. Just a crap year all around though for Oscar movies, and that's the main reason why this won. Hollywood needs to get its sh*t together this year.

Speaking of, calling it now... Damien Chazelle's First Man wins it next year. Hearing so many good things about that one...

oragator said:

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Am I the only one who was blown away by how sharp Yves Marie Saint still is at 93, especially given her limited public role that last decade or more?

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Yes, I was blown away by that as well. Very impressive

Thought Kimmel did a great job tonight too, struck the right tone, given last years mix up and all that's happened in the industry since.

You keep saying that, but that's just not true.

Dunkirk, Blade Runner, Call Me By Your Name, and many others were just fantastic movies. I feel like you're saying it was a crap year just because there was no clear front runner this year.

Guess I should have clicked on some of those "Get Out" threads. I'm a huge Key & Peele fan but somehow missed that it was written by Jordan. That might explain all the comments about it being weird, but it's probably my kind of weird.

Worth it to see Sufjan. Sad they cut his song short, though. Pretty cool he had St. Vincent and Moses Sumney with him though. Beautiful song.

How do you top last year's top picture of a gay black crack baby? Inter species fish ****ing

ATM1876 said:

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I think it was an odd year, but not necessarily a crap year. Every Best Picture nominee had it's supporters and I thoroughly enjoyed seeing most of them. This year it just so happened that every nominee also had it's fair share of detractors, which was rare but also made it more interesting.

I still stand by my statement from a few days ago that I think Dunkirk will be the only one people still talk about ten years from now, with the one possible exception being Phantom Thread.

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I liked Dunkirk, but as a history major with a focus on WW2 who has obesseivle forced myself to see most every relavent WW2 movie ever made (or maybe because of it), I just don't get the over the top love so many have for it. As has been said above though, weak year too.

Dp

Dunkirk was awesome, but not even in my top four or five Nolan movies. The Post was great, but subpar Spielberg. CMBYN was good, but boring. Grinding Nemo was decent at times but man did I dislike the second half. Three Billboards has gotten worse and worse the more time I've had away from it. Darkest Hour was bland as can be. And Get Out didn't belong anywhere close to the top ten.

Of the two I absolutely loved, Lady Bird was fantastic, but just didn't have that "it" factor in the end, and Phantom Thread was riveting, but again, not the best PTA has had to offer.

Blade Runner 2049 was the only true all timer for me, but it wasn't even nominated in the end.

Overall, I think that constitutes a crap year compared to previous years. I simply wasn't passionate about anything in the race. And I don't mean to take away points for some of those directors not bringing their best ever work, but it would have helped if at least one of them would have delivered a top three film for their careers.

So, yes, there were some great movies, but too many all around flaws spread amongst the bunch to not be disappointing.

Love to hear your top 5 Nolan flicks...

TDK
Interstellar
Memento
Dunkirk
Inception

1. TDK
2. Inception
3. Interstellar
4. Batman Begins
5. The Prestige
6. Dunkirk
7. Memento
8. TDKR

Personally I thought last year was worse. La La Land was such a bland and forgettable movie to me.

This is the only place I frequent that thinks Get Out is undeserving. I think Get Out will age better than any other movie nominated.

For me, that movie has only gotten better with time. I absolutely love it.

I thought it was great and much better than Shape of Water.

Dunkirk is great an experience movie, but the characters are pretty much cookie cutter and its a historical narrative. I like it for an innovative way it tells its story, the cinematography, and the music/sound. For me its pretty unique among Nolan films.

Brian Earl Spilner said:

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I thought it was great and much better than Shape of Water.

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I haven't seen SoW yet, but I would much prefer more movies like Get Out than more movies like The Post.

The Post to me seems like a formulaic oscar film and while its well acted and well done it doesn't excite me in the least. At least directors like Peele and del Torro are making something different.

Get Out boggles me a bit too. Another good movie, but if that's a best picture nominee Hollywood is is either completely obsessed with race, or can't make a decent movie anymore to actually deserve being nominated ahead of it.

And it being nominated for best actor was a joke, he didn't play a part much different than about 100 horror films from over the last 30 years, with only moderately more nuance.

Haven't seen SoW yet, my guess is that will feel overrated too.

Haha, that's awesome

Key was happy for Peele.

Really glad Blade Runner, my favorite this year, got a few!

I need Colin Hanks appearance in this picture explained. Always curious.

Like when Sam Rockwell won I just kept thinking "Why the Danny from the Mindy Project sitting near him?"

I agree and disagree with TCTTS. I enjoyed all of the Best Picture nominees, but I do agree that there wasn't a single one I LOVED. I never left the theater this year thinking "THAT should win best picture". Shape of Water is fine, but being a dark fairy tale I compare it to Pan's Labyrinth and Pan's is so much better.

Overall:

- Yes it was a bit over the top with all the activism talk, but whatever.

- MacDormand has always ground my gears for some reason. Her energy and tone of voice I think. I can't put my finger on it. And it's not because of her speech. I remember when she won for Fargo I thought "Really? She won? All she did was say Oh golly gee! for an hour and a half!"

- Maybe TCTTS knows this but who picks what clips they show for the noms? They picked the deer scene for McDormand for example. Maybe the worst scene in the movie, with a horribly made composite shot of a deer. Just took me out of the movie. And then they show Luke's shoulder brush off in a SW nom? Pretty much one of the 2-3 HATED moments from TLJ, even by those who overall enjoyed the movie.

- Original Screenplay I was hoping for a tie. That was the category I just wanted everyone to win. Greta! Kumail! Loved them all. Jordan was deserved. Get Out I think is over praised but every single interview I've seen with him I am impressed. He is incredibly well thought out and genuine but that comedy in him keeps him light and fun.

Like I said about a dozen movies I really enjoyed this year, so a good year for movie, but none I loved.

http://deadline.com/2018/03/oscar-ratings-down-all-time-low-viewership-1202310775/

Let's face it: the Best Picture Oscar has pretty much been a joke for quite awhile now. Since 2010, it's been:

The Shape of Water
Moonlight
Spotlight
Birdman
12 Years a Slave
Argo
The Artist
The King's Speech

Honestly, who cares about ANY of these movies right now? There's not a single movie in that list that anyone'll be talking about in another 10 years. Does anyone even remember The Artist??

Hell, I had forgotten the previous three winners (Spotlight?) and I bet most ordinary people still think that La La Land won last year instead of Moonlight because Moonlight was utterly forgettable.

So did Blade Runner not get nominated for BP just because of how badly it did at the box office?

MBAR said:

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This is the only place I frequent that thinks Get Out is undeserving. I think Get Out will age better than any other movie nominated.

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I loved Get Out.