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*****Marvels Agents of SHIELD - Season 3*****

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R0GUE
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Does this inhuman exist in the comics or is this created for the show?
No known Inhuman exists in the comics that I am aware of.
AboveAndBeyond
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Lash is from the comics. I checked the names on the containers from last night, none of them match any known Inhumans.

http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Lash_(Inhuman)_(Earth-616)
R0GUE
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Lash is from the comics. I checked the names on the containers from last night, none of them match any known Inhumans.

http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Lash_(Inhuman)_(Earth-616)
Oh yes Lash exists, but we've known that. I assumed he meant the alien world Inhuman: "It".
AboveAndBeyond
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I assumed he was talking about ANY of the Inhumans. In which case, I believe Quakes boyfriend is in the comics also? To answer your question, no I don't believe Death is in the comics.
chase128
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I assumed he was talking about ANY of the Inhumans. In which case, I believe Quakes boyfriend is in the comics also? To answer your question, no I don't believe Death is in the comics.
Well, there is a Death in the comics but she's not Inhuman, right?

The Death I'm thinking of is a woman that Thanos is in love with.


What a great mid-season finale, though! I liked how they killed Ward but still are keeping the actor around. I know IT making it through the portal unnoticed is kind of a stretch, but this is a crazy all-powerful being so I'll give that a pass. The only head scratcher for me was how Hydra just let them waltz into the portal room and Malick just kind of disappeared for part of the episode.

Another musing I had...So Simmons described IT as being super powerful at one time but now its power seemed faded. Explains why Fitz was able to overpower IT. Maybe IT sucked the planet dry of its life force or something like that. Simmons did mention she thought the planet was desolate because of IT. Now that IT is on Earth, will it regain its strength? Will IT be able to absorb memories Ward had? If so...holy **** that's bad for the good guys!
SeattleAgJr
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So is anyone else not freaked out by the following consideration....

Remember during the Jenna on planet episodes, she killed and ate part of the tentacles (leg) of some water creature.

And then last night, part of the leg of IT/Will/the Hydra thingie was missing.... Like it had been eaten.

redline248
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Someone posted a few pages back a bio for something called Ego, and I think part of that described it as having tentacles. So yeah, completely possible that Simmons ate part of the monster.
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So...IT is inside Colston now right?
No. It's inside Ward now, after Coulson killed Ward. "Death is only the beginning."
I actually assumed that's where it was going...until the creeper stare from Colston at the end.
Did you not see the scene with Malick and Ward after that? You can clearly see the thing crawling around under Zombie Ward's skin.
Hmmm.. i thought the last scene was when they all get out of the pod. Must have missed some thing...dang.
redline248
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Although, I just figured that was some injury Will's body sustained when he was killed.

Which brings up the question, does It possess dead bodies or become a copy of them? I think possess.
R0GUE
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Ok here's the breakdown:

Daisy/Skye/Quake: yes she's from the comics, but she wasn't an Inhuman originally
Lash: yes he's from the comics but he doesn't "Hulk out" like he does in the show - he just has one form
Lincoln: not in the comics
Joey (the guy who melts metal): not in the comics - there is a non-inhuman named Melter but he is named Bruno Hogan.
The alien-Death-It: not in the comics, like mentioned above, "Death" in Marvel is a female being affiliated with Thanos, who is more cosmic in nature
Gordon: was not originally in the comics but was added later as a little cameo, presumably so we wouldn't mistake him for a different blind Inhuman
Jianyang: (Skye's mother) not in the comics
Raina: not in the comics
Alisha: the red head who could clone herself - not in the comics
Bahrain Inhuman: the one who controlled the little girl and led to May being nicknamed the Cavalry - not in the comics
All the other fairly insignificant Inhumans either in the city or hunted down by Lash: not in the comics

Hope that helps.
R0GUE
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Someone posted a few pages back a bio for something called Ego, and I think part of that described it as having tentacles. So yeah, completely possible that Simmons ate part of the monster.


I think there's some confusion there.

Ego, the Living Planet, is an entire sentient planet. There was some discussion about him before we knew about this Inhuman but that theory no longer seems to really fit.
TexasAggie_02
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there's a theory that IT is The Hive. in the comics, the Hive is a monster created by HYDRA in the "image" of their logo. It is a parasite that takes over the bodies of other people.

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The Hive's body, whilst bipedal is not a solid figure but a writing congregation of its many parasites. As such these parasites can actually latch away from the mass and attack others at high speed - making them effective projectile weapons.
It's possible that in the MCU, that the Hive is an inhuman instead of a HYDRA experiment.

http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Hive_(Earth-616)



I would also like to know how IT never escaped the planet after being there for possibly thousands of years?

It is assumed that the planet was a Kree planet (the portal was of Kree Origin). The Kree are space-faring, how did IT not come to possess a ship? Also, you would think that after thousands of year, IT would have noticed a pattern to the portal openings, and just waited around for one to open (he didn't really have anything else better to do).
TexasAggie_02
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Hmmm.. i thought the last scene was when they all get out of the pod. Must have missed some thing...dang.
When they show the SHIELD logo and Coulson says "we'll be right back" there is always another minute or two of show left. It's been like that for every single episode.
MrPlow2010
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I read on reddit somewhere that the slug parasite thing could also be The Hive. I have never heard of him/It before but It is apart of Hydra. Has anyone else ever heard of The Hive?

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix6/hivehydrasw.htm

edit - just saw that this was posted a few minutes before
SeattleAgJr
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there's a theory that IT is The Hive. in the comics, the Hive is a monster created by HYDRA in the "image" of their logo. It is a parasite that takes over the bodies of other people.

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The Hive's body, whilst bipedal is not a solid figure but a writing congregation of its many parasites. As such these parasites can actually latch away from the mass and attack others at high speed - making them effective projectile weapons.
It's possible that in the MCU, that the Hive is an inhuman instead of a HYDRA experiment.

http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Hive_(Earth-616)



I would also like to know how IT never escaped the planet after being there for possibly thousands of years?

It is assumed that the planet was a Kree planet (the portal was of Kree Origin). The Kree are space-faring, how did IT not come to possess a ship? Also, you would think that after thousands of year, IT would have noticed a pattern to the portal openings, and just waited around for one to open (he didn't really have anything else better to do).
The easiest/lamest explanation is that since he had consumed the entire planet and then burned off whatever he consumed, he was too weak to do pretty much anything other than take over single hosts, drive people crazy with minimal telepathy, cause localized sand storms.
chase128
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Although, I just figured that was some injury Will's body sustained when he was killed.

Which brings up the question, does It possess dead bodies or become a copy of them? I think possess.
Looks like it inhabits dead bodies.

What Fitz saw when he inspected Will's leg was just decomposing flesh around the wound. IT could definitely have bit his leg or something.

Remember when Fitz commented on how Will smelled?
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Hmmm.. i thought the last scene was when they all get out of the pod. Must have missed some thing...dang.
When they show the SHIELD logo and Coulson says "we'll be right back" there is always another minute or two of show left. It's been like that for every single episode.
Yeah I know...and I still do this at least twice a season. Do the same damn thing with TWD when they come on with the little Talking dead promo right before the last segment.
R0GUE
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there's a theory that IT is The Hive. in the comics, the Hive is a monster created by HYDRA in the "image" of their logo. It is a parasite that takes over the bodies of other people.

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The Hive's body, whilst bipedal is not a solid figure but a writing congregation of its many parasites. As such these parasites can actually latch away from the mass and attack others at high speed - making them effective projectile weapons.
It's possible that in the MCU, that the Hive is an inhuman instead of a HYDRA experiment.

http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Hive_(Earth-616)



I would also like to know how IT never escaped the planet after being there for possibly thousands of years?

It is assumed that the planet was a Kree planet (the portal was of Kree Origin). The Kree are space-faring, how did IT not come to possess a ship? Also, you would think that after thousands of year, IT would have noticed a pattern to the portal openings, and just waited around for one to open (he didn't really have anything else better to do).
Ok, I could see that.
TexasAggie_02
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i'm curious who built the massive HYDRA monument on the planet.
SeattleAgJr
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i'm curious who built the massive HYDRA monument on the planet.
No one. It was just a special effect.
eskimo
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Was the Unspoken theory already thrown out?
imjustsayin
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So the creeper stare between Coulson and Fitz, do THEY know that the IT made it back through the portal? Do they know it's Ward? I know no one knows, just asking for your thoughts?

Brilliant mid season finale.
SeattleAgJr
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So the creeper stare between Coulson and Fitz, do THEY know that the IT made it back through the portal? Do they know it's Ward? I know no one knows, just asking for your thoughts?

Brilliant mid season finale.
It was more that each was looking at the other because they had just killed someone, in both cases they killed "unarmed/injured" people - Fitz shot IT/Will in the back multiple times, Coulson killed Ward more/less in cold blood. Granted both were baddies who deserved to die.

This is based on one of the interviews floating around out there today after the finale aired.
redline248
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So the creeper stare between Coulson and Fitz, do THEY know that the IT made it back through the portal? Do they know it's Ward? I know no one knows, just asking for your thoughts?

Brilliant mid season finale.
It was more that each was looking at the other because they had just killed someone, in both cases they killed "unarmed/injured" people - Fitz shot IT/Will in the back multiple times, Coulson killed Ward more/less in cold blood. Granted both were baddies who deserved to die.

This is based on one of the interviews floating around out there today after the finale aired.
I'm surprised Fitz would care about killing It (if that is in fact the intended outcome of the show). I took all of his looks and whatever as "holy shht Coulson, you just killed Ward and that's not like you."
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It was more that each was looking at the other because they had just killed someone, in both cases they killed "unarmed/injured" people - Fitz shot IT/Will in the back multiple times, Coulson killed Ward more/less in cold blood. Granted both were baddies who deserved to die.

This is based on one of the interviews floating around out there today after the finale aired.
I got that impression as well, but I also got the feeling that they both thought that it was over for the most part. Only, with It back on Earth, it is only beginning.
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Do we know for sure that it was a Kree civilization on the planet?
SeattleAgJr
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Do we know for sure that it was a Kree civilization on the planet?
no.
Sbisa04
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What a tease to finally "kill" Ward only to have him back as a possessed body. Good episode though.
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What a tease to finally "kill" Ward only to have him back as a possessed body. Good episode though.

I thought it was awesome. The actor (Bret Dalton) has been good at changing personalities (best as a baddie though). This will be a totally different character with different motivations and probably powers. Should be fun for Dalton.
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What a tease to finally "kill" Ward only to have him back as a possessed body. Good episode though.

I thought it was awesome. The actor (Bret Dalton) has been good at changing personalities (best as a baddie though). This will be a totally different character with different motivations and probably powers. Should be fun for Dalton.
cartoon villain.

wish they would write the actor out for good.
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What do we think about Will? Do we think he may be Hydra? Do we think he'll play any part in the winter finale?
Perhaps Will IS the Hydra supreme being they are looking for...
Just watched this episode via DVR. I was somewhat right... ;-)

I can't wait till this show comes back on after hiatus!
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IT as the Hive is a pretty cool idea, but man, I was disappointed in this winter finale. I give the show a lot of leeway on being stupid, but the timing of how everything fit together was just lazy, nonsensical writing.
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Will IT be able to absorb memories Ward had? If so...holy **** that's bad for the good guys!

I think so. IT knew who Fitz was, although it's possible that IT absorbed Will's memories before IT killed him. However, after taking possession of Ward's body and arriving on earth, IT also seemed to know who Malick was, too.
Dr. Horrible
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I think y'all are overlooking the Death potential for "It". Spliced together from Wikipedia: Death is an abstract entity, the embodiment of the end of life ... depicted as a skeleton cloaked in a black or purple robe ... occasionally appearing as a humanoid female to be perceived by lesser beings, and resides in a dimension known as the Realm of Death.

Also, when Malick is talking to Simmons, he asks her if she knows the Hebrew word carved in the castle, and she says it means Death, and his response is that death is the only thing that will be coming through the portal.

The only part in not sure about is the inhuman angle. Is everyone assuming this villain is an inhuman (including the characters on the show), or is there actually something that links It to being an inhuman? Either way, they've rewritten origin stories before, and why I wouldn't like an inhuman origin for a being as powerful as Death, it wouldn't surprise me that they went that angle. Could also have Death jump over to a woman's body as the very end of this season and then use Death as a villain in Dr. Strange next year.
TexasAggie_02
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they said earlier in the season that a very powerful inhuman was banished through the portal to the other planet.
 
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