Well, it's been better than Thor 2 and Iron Man 3 that is for damn sure.

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So,it's some kind of ancient Inhuman or ancient Kree on the planet. Any idea who that is?

I read an interesting observation on Reddit. What if Hydra wanted the Pym particle bc they didn't have the obelisk anymore and wanted to send shrunken ppl through the small portal.

On a side note, how would you have liked to have been the stone cutter that 'got' to cut the smaller pieces out?

so where were they keeping Andrew? They supposedly hacked into the ATCU via Andrew's containment cell, but it looks like he was at a HYRDA facility somewhere. I mean Ward showed up at the end, so it probably wasn't at the ATCU.

I got the impression that there was still be big stone out there, they just cut smaller pieces it off for some reason.
I assumed that the where Andrew is being kept was tied into the same network as the ATCU and that was how they got in.
This season has been great so far and something that I think now you really need to watch to fully understand the movies.

HYRDA's logo has tentacles on it. Simmons ate tentacles on the planet.

The Monolith that SHIELD destroyed had at least 5 cut outs in it. Now we know why. Hydra has one, who else has the other 4?

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so where were they keeping Andrew? They supposedly hacked into the ATCU via Andrew's containment cell, but it looks like he was at a HYRDA facility somewhere. I mean Ward showed up at the end, so it probably wasn't at the ATCU.

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I was wondering this same thing.

Don't know exactly where he was, but its clear that Mallick had him moved from the ATCU.

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The Monolith that SHIELD destroyed had at least 5 cut outs in it. Now we know why. Hydra has one, who else has the other 4?

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step 1: cut a hole in a monolith?

I'm a little surprised Hydra's leader said they've never brought someone back from the planet, considering their old castle had a machine that could control the monolith in it.

I wonder if he was lying or if that's just a minor hole in the story they overlooked.

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so where were they keeping Andrew? They supposedly hacked into the ATCU via Andrew's containment cell, but it looks like he was at a HYRDA facility somewhere. I mean Ward showed up at the end, so it probably wasn't at the ATCU.

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I was confused by this as well. I thought they said the containment cell had a tracking feature built into it? Or did I not hear something right?

Also, Andrew is about to become a plot device from the street fighter movie.

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The Monolith that SHIELD destroyed had at least 5 cut outs in it. Now we know why. Hydra has one, who else has the other 4?

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step 1: cut a hole in a monolith?

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You don't want to be on step 2 when the Monolith activates though...

I thought they just knew how to open it to send people through. Once sent through, and the portal closed, didn't the location randomly change on the planet? So, even if they opened it again, there's no guarantee it would be near anyone still alive on the planet to come back?

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I thought they just knew how to open it to send people through. Once sent through, and the portal closed, didn't the location randomly change on the planet? So, even if they opened it again, there's no guarantee it would be near anyone still alive on the planet to come back?

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correct. They figured out how to force it open it Earth-side. No one earth-side knew how it worked on it's own though. Simmons figured out that it was controlled by the moons (like the tides are here).

Problem is, the portal on the far side opens along an arc, it's not always in the same spot. I guess technically, the could have brought someone back if they went through, and immediately came back through it before it closed (surprised they never experimented with that all those centuries that they had it).

Also, the planet (or the being on the planet) is conspiring to keep people from going back. Creating sandstorms, widening canyons, causing hallucinations, etc.

Right. But, just as Fitz jumped in with a rope tied around him, then was pulled out, I'd have expected hydra to test the same method during short trips. There's no reason they shouldn't have jumped in and out of the portal given they had a machine that could keep it open.

They probably had to keep the portal open for quite a while to throw all that NASA gear and personnel through, for example.

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Right. But, just as Fitz jumped in with a rope tied around him, then was pulled out, I'd have expected hydra to test the same method during short trips. There's no reason they shouldn't have jumped in and out of the portal given they had a machine that could keep it open.

They probably had to keep the portal open for quite a while to throw all that NASA gear and personnel through, for example.

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They had a machine to keep it open, but I think what helped Fitz was that Daisy was keeping it open with her powers for longer.

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Right. But, just as Fitz jumped in with a rope tied around him, then was pulled out, I'd have expected hydra to test the same method during short trips. There's no reason they shouldn't have jumped in and out of the portal given they had a machine that could keep it open.

They probably had to keep the portal open for quite a while to throw all that NASA gear and personnel through, for example.

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which is what i just said

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Right. But, just as Fitz jumped in with a rope tied around him, then was pulled out, I'd have expected hydra to test the same method during short trips. There's no reason they shouldn't have jumped in and out of the portal given they had a machine that could keep it open.

They probably had to keep the portal open for quite a while to throw all that NASA gear and personnel through, for example.

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They had a machine to keep it open, but I think what helped Fitz was that Daisy was keeping it open with her powers for longer.

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i think that was only necessary b/c the device was so old it fell apart. they could conceivably had kept it open longer back in the day.

maybe nobody from Hydra was smart enough to figure out rope

Maybe no one from Hydra was interested in bringing someone back, before.

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Right. But, just as Fitz jumped in with a rope tied around him, then was pulled out, I'd have expected hydra to test the same method during short trips. There's no reason they shouldn't have jumped in and out of the portal given they had a machine that could keep it open.

They probably had to keep the portal open for quite a while to throw all that NASA gear and personnel through, for example.

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I don't know the portal just opened and grabbed Simmons, they could have just set up the hardware nearby the monolith and wait for it to open and grab everything in a heartbeat.

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Right. But, just as Fitz jumped in with a rope tied around him, then was pulled out, I'd have expected hydra to test the same method during short trips. There's no reason they shouldn't have jumped in and out of the portal given they had a machine that could keep it open.

They probably had to keep the portal open for quite a while to throw all that NASA gear and personnel through, for example.

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which is what i just said

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I don't know the portal just opened and grabbed Simmons, they could have just set up the hardware nearby the monolith and wait for it to open and grab everything in a heartbeat.

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I forgot about that! What makes Simmons special enough to have the monolith liquefy and grab her? Pure chance? Latent inhuman abilities?

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Right. But, just as Fitz jumped in with a rope tied around him, then was pulled out, I'd have expected hydra to test the same method during short trips. There's no reason they shouldn't have jumped in and out of the portal given they had a machine that could keep it open.

They probably had to keep the portal open for quite a while to throw all that NASA gear and personnel through, for example.

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which is what i just said

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I don't know the portal just opened and grabbed Simmons, they could have just set up the hardware nearby the monolith and wait for it to open and grab everything in a heartbeat.

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I forgot about that! What makes Simmons special enough to have the monolith liquefy and grab her? Pure chance? Latent inhuman abilities?

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The portal opened in sync with the moons around the far planet. They just thought it opened randomly at that point though and she was just unlucky enough to be there when it happened.

Also, where there the portal opens up on the other side moves around and they hadn't figured that out yet either until Simmons did after being stuck on the far side.

I don't know much about Dr strange, but is it possible that whatever it is on that planet that hydra considers its leader will be a villain in the Dr strange movie?

Malick said that the thing was an Inhuman. I don't think they will tie that into Dr. Strange, since his enemies are typically demon-types from other planes of reality. Also I think they already cast Baron Mordo as the villain for Dr. Strange.

Rumor has it some peeps gonna get killed off this week


I honestly hope Ward stays a constant undying villain. I really like him as the "darn they foiled me again" maniacal plotting type

Between this week's and next week's episode, I'm kind of hoping that they kill off a few people. The cast has grown a decent amount. I don't know if killing Ward would be the best route, but I'm hoping that at least Lincoln bites it.

Lincoln seems like he's definitely biting the dust. Probably some ATCU folks too. Maybe all the ATCU folks... they seem like a storyline thats pretty played out now that we know that the ATCU is uncovered as being a pawn for Hydra.

i think lincoln stays around and eventually becomes a bad guy. Andrew mentioned earlier in the season that he didn't like lincoln and could sense a dark side to him. we'll eventually find out that lash was doing good work, perhaps just not going about it the right way.

Probably wont happen but I hope Bobby and the Brittish dude bite it. I know, something about a spinoff, and she's Mockingbird, but the two of them have been mothing more than extraneous, nuisance characters to me. This cast has grown too big, and they should be the first to go.

I don't remember seeing it mentioned, but in watching The Avengers last night, I noticed that Powers Boothe was one (the main speaking one) of the World Security Council that seemed to be Fury's "bosses".

Coincidence?

Cheesy as hell yes, but they're no where near as forced or annoying as Lincoln is or his relationship with Daisy. Killing off Hunter is fine, Bobbi can go off on her own if need be. It's time to get rid of most of the ATCU characters, I think that story will have pretty much played out by the season break.

Between Hunter, Mac, and Bobbi I'd be ok if Mac ended up leaving eventually. I mean, when FItz was recuperating from the events at the end of season 1 having Mac around worked well because Fitz was still struggling. Now that Fitz is better, and pretty awesome in his own right, Mac has become a bit redundant other than palling around with Daisy on missions.

I wonder how long they are going to keep Powers Boothe around.

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I don't remember seeing it mentioned, but in watching The Avengers last night, I noticed that Powers Boothe was one (the main speaking one) of the World Security Council that seemed to be Fury's "bosses".

Coincidence?

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It was mentioned in the episode by Rosalind that his character, Gideon Malick, was on the World Security Council.