That was a great start to the season.

For the person complaining about them trying to make Inhumans a big thing. You have to remember this is a TV show. They don't want to bring in any new big heroes that will be in the movies at some point. This lets them play in a smaller sandbox and do whatever they like with them without having to worry too much about the MCU canon in the movies.

I think it's perfect for the TV show.

It is getting annoying with the recurring plot of humans vs "heroes".

Xmen have done it to death. they are doing it here which is likely part of the Civil War story line in the MCU movies. and Heroes Reborn is now doing it.

They are making an Inhumans movie, in 2018 I believe.

Makes you wonder if Marvel film is totally on board with this. They've already pretty much stated they were annoyed that AoS brought back Coulson.

I never heard of The Inhumans until a year ago, and it does seem like a weak replacement for the X-Men. But I'm not sure how the movie is going to coexist with what AoS has done so far... Last season we had the Inhuman home with Skye's mom. But from reading about the Inhumans, they are actually led by this Black Bolt guy, along with some other 'higher profile' characters.

So why wasn't Black Bolt on the show in their home village? They never even hinted that there was someone bigger in charge... Is he going to show up at some time? I really doubt it... You don't see Cap or Iron Man checking in on Coulson ever... Are they going to have the show crossover with the movie? Will Skye/Daisy be in the movie? It's all kind of confusing and just seems like AoS may be causing the film studios a bit of a headache.

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They are making an Inhumans movie, in 2018 I believe.

Makes you wonder if Marvel film is totally on board with this. They've already pretty much stated they were annoyed that AoS brought back Coulson.

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Actually I think it was just Joss who was annoyed. And it's been shown Joss is on the outs with Marvel these days.

Feige runs this show. It was joss who got upset that marvel undermined his decision to kill him

The place in the show was a sanctuary of sorts for new inhumans, but not the actual city the "leaders" run. Skye's mom was on level of a governor, in my opinion, and the real leadership wasn't involved in what she was doing (I don't think).

3 years is a long time to try to set up the major inhuman story before any of those players show up.

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They've already pretty much stated they were annoyed that AoS brought back Coulson.

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Yeah, because no one who's ever 'died' in Marvel comics has NEVER come back with a convoluted explanation of how they survived.

That would be silly.

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Makes you wonder if Marvel film is totally on board with this. They've already pretty much stated they were annoyed that AoS brought back Coulson.

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I thought Wedon said that it wasn't his decision, but Marvel's to do so? I think he said as much in an interview at some point around the time that AoU came out.

As Rogue posted, I think it is highly likely that Joss was already on the outs with Marvel by the time that AoU came out. Him having to bring back Colson for AoS which he killed off in Avengers, probably just frustrated him even further since Marvel apparently (evidenced by Gunn's lamenting over not being able to include an alien species because of legal stuff) tells directors where they can and cannot go. I've said it before, but Wedon strikes me as a director that wants complete control over whatever he is working on to shape it how he wants. His comments towards AoS seem more like someone who is upset he was forced to do something he didn't initially plan on doing.

Though being a fan of comics like Whedon is, I don't understand why he has such an issue with it.

Ok, ok guys... It was just Whedon. Comics nobody really dies. I got it...

That said, I still agree with Whedon. (And I think he's a pretty big whiner most of the time... but he does make awesome stuff)

Bringing Coulson back was silly and cheapened something that was pretty important in The Avengers. There's been numerous articles written about how there's no consequences in the Marvel and Comic universes and how that takes away from them. And I mean, come on... that dude was dead as ****.

And I'll be the first to say that I love Coulson... Everybody loves Coulson. You were supposed to love him, because his death was supposed to mean something and affect you. Now it doesn't really mean anything.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/09/30/marvel-movies-will-eventually-reference-the-tv-shows

A Vincent kingpin in Spider-Man would be amazing

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Ok, ok guys... It was just Whedon. Comics nobody really dies. I got it...

That said, I still agree with Whedon. (And I think he's a pretty big whiner most of the time... but he does make awesome stuff)

Bringing Coulson back was silly and cheapened something that was pretty important in The Avengers. There's been numerous articles written about how there's no consequences in the Marvel and Comic universes and how that takes away from them. And I mean, come on... that dude was dead as ****.

And I'll be the first to say that I love Coulson... Everybody loves Coulson. You were supposed to love him, because his death was supposed to mean something and affect you. Now it doesn't really mean anything.

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I totally get where you are coming from.

In most media, where the shared universe is made up of only 3-6 movies and sequels, its generally pretty terrible to bring your characters back from the dead. It definitely does feel cheap.

But in comics, when you have beloved characters, and the shared universe extends for years and years over hundreds of comics I think its just too much to ask to NOT bring characters back at some point.

Of course, these aren't comics, they are movies and shows based on comics. But they are still crossing over across dozens of movies and then you add in the shows, and its a little different from your typical movie franchise. It's more akin to Star Wars and Star Trek, who have both had instances of bringing characters back from the dead as well.

That's just my two cents. Plus think of poor Clark Gregg. Poor guy was gonna be out of a job and instead he gets to continue to play Coulson, and that guy is a legitimate Marvel comics nut.

Bringing Coulson back doesn't bother me. At first I was like "How? He flipping died!" Then they explained it pretty soon in the show...also as pointed out, it's comics.

Besides, better him to introduce a new team/show than have a new character.

I didnt watch season 1 and and started watching at the beginning of season 2. Can anyone explain how he came back? All I know is that he went to Tahiti or something and is back.

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I didnt watch season 1 and and started watching at the beginning of season 2. Can anyone explain how he came back? All I know is that he went to Tahiti or something and is back.

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Haha, ok SPOILERS below:



"Tahiti" OR TAHITI was a codename for a secret program created by Fury. SHIELD found Kree technology where they discovered they not only could heal people after they had died, but they could regrow them new bodies and even re-write their memories. The plan was to only use it if one of the Avengers died, but Fury went rogue and used it on Coulson. There was a whole storyline about Hydra and other various individuals trying to get a hold of it. It was eventually destroyed.

The reason they called it Tahiti is they rewrote Coulson's memories to believe he hadn't actually died, but just was recuperating on a beach in the actual Tahiti, which is where the "it's a magical place" tagline came from. But then everyone kept telling him "I thought you died", which made him suspicious, as well as the fact he started behaving strangely and having weird incongruities in his memories.

Did we ever find out what TAHITI stood for? The Alien Hidden In The ?????

Awesome. Thanks for the explanation.

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Did we ever find out what TAHITI stood for? The Alien Hidden In The ?????

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I had to look it up:

Terrestrialized Alien Host Integrative Tissue I

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Did we ever find out what TAHITI stood for? The Alien Hidden In The ?????

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I had to look it up:

Terrestrialized Alien Host Integrative Tissue I

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Thanks!

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That's just my two cents. Plus think of poor Clark Gregg. Poor guy was gonna be out of a job and instead he gets to continue to play Coulson, and that guy is a legitimate Marvel comics nut.

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Yeah I don't mean to come off complaining. It's not really that big a deal in the grand scheme of things, and I'm with you in that I just really like Clark Gregg, and I'm happy that he's now the star of a hit show. AoS wouldn't have worked without him in my opinion.

However, I was pretty disappointed that he didn't show up in Age of Ultron. I mean come on, if it's the Avengers, Coulson should be there. It kinda seemed like Whedon was saying, "screw that, as far as I'm concerned, he's dead"

Hopefully he shows up in Civil War or another movie down the road, but something tells me he won't. One of the best parts of phase 1 was Coulson showing up and tying everything together.

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The plan was to only use it if one of the Avengers died, but Fury went rogue and used it on Coulson.

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I feel a little differently about this. Probably a minor point, though. I didn't feel like Fury went rogue, so much as he believed in Coulson enough to consider Coulson an Avenger. Maybe not a super-powered one like the others, but an Avenger nonetheless. But I'd have to rewatch the older shows to find the exact clips that make me think that way.

No, Daisy's mom was NOT Mudessa.

Why don't they have Black Bolt in it? Because they are saving him for the movie. I thought it was 2017 though? Same reason we don't see any of the Avengers in the shows, they are saving the BIG names for the movies.

Movie actually got pushed to 2019 when Marvel Studios got teamed rights to Spidey from Sony. It is after the second Infinity War movie.

Like I said, that's a long time to let a tv show set something up. Surely they can't do inhumans for 4 seasons.

Joss's point about bringing Coulson back is a good one. You can't have a war movie with no loss. Coulson had to die, or someone we felt attached to.

Bringing him back sort of neuters that. Who rewatches the first Avengers and feels a little cheapened by knowing that Coulson is running around elsewhere 3 months later? I do. It doesn't bother me, but it cheapens the drama a bit.

Bringing Coulson into Age of Ultron just would have been too much. The film is already jam-packed with the 6 Avengers, Quicksilver, Scarlet Witch, Ultron, Vision, plus some Nick Fury. Coulson would have had - at best - a throwaway line like "I thought you were dead!" "I got better." "Oh okay - see ya later!"

Bring him back for Infinity War 2. But casual audiences need to be able to understand everything without watching every single Marvel product. That's why RDJ references Banner as a "horrible green rage monster" - if you didn't know what the Hulk was, you do now. If you've only seen the movies, Coulson suddenly being alive would be a shock - and "go watch 22 episodes of a TV show" isn't an acceptable answer to their confusion.

Presumably in another Avengers film they'll be able to reintroduce him satisfactorily. But don't just toss him in prematurely and assume everyone knows that some stuff happened on ABC. As far as Stark, Rodgers, Banner, etc. know, Coulson is still dead.

Just my two cents

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Coulson would have had - at best - a throwaway line like "I thought you were dead!" "I got better." "Oh okay - see ya later!"

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Just watched episode 1. Not bad! Not bad at all.

Whelp......4 days ago I gave episode 1 season 1 a shot. I finished season two last night. Great series. Did develop a little slowly at first. Kinda cheesy. Acting was pretty bad. But it upscaled very quickly. The fight scene were Skye goes off on Hydra in that lab late is season 2 was movie quality. Her Gun-Fu reminded me of John Wick.

And at first I thought Coulson being brought back was lame....but after everything pans out I am more than ok with it now. His story is an integral part of the main storyline. Take that out you disable a large chunk of the existing story. Sure they could have rewritten it but I like it as is. Plus Coulson's character really finds a nice balance among the team for me. I approve all around.

Thanks the the EB I have found new loves in AoS, Daredevil, and John Wick.

Ok, lets try this again. New clip for this week's episode. Blair Underwood returns.

Thought the simulation said 17 months, 21 days when it completed and I was sad that didn't line up with a future movie release.

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POTUS was the same actor from IM3.

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And other Marvel movies. Sometimes just in the background on the news, but still there.

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Thought the simulation said 17 months, 21 days when it completed and I was sad that didn't line up with a future movie release.

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I did the exact same thing...

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I did the exact same thing...

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I saw this on reddit. Mr. Fantastic sized stretch, but still fun https://m.reddit.com/r/shield/comments/3mx48a/spoilers_s3e1_caught_something_in_this_episode/

Ah, didn't think about what the date was in Shield time. I did it from release date!