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RockInspector
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1:10p, 8/4/15
In addition to what tailgate posted...James found out about Vanessa being " the head of the snake" (his words) before the PoV Ceremony and sort of half assed talked about cutting the head off....and then said nope, we stick to the plan and leave the nominations the same.

The look on his face Thursday will be priceless.

Sucks for Clay but he wasn't going to win anyway. He will be graduating from TAMU with a masters and is a former Aggie football player. Clay will be fine.
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In reply to RockInspector • 1:11p, 8/4/15
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Sucks for Clay but he wasn't going to win anyway. He will be graduating from TAMU with a masters and is a former Aggie football player. Clay will be fine.

He also cut 2 people's hair.
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In reply to Bunk Moreland • 1:12p, 8/4/15
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He also cut 2 people's hair.
So he's got that going for him...which is nice!
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In reply to MSCAg • 1:15p, 8/4/15

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especially when the twins have the personality of those Disney Siamese cats.

That is a perfect description of those two. The more comfortable that they get, the more their personalities come out. They aren't the nicest people.

I would love to see them come right back and take out James. The problem is that other than endurance, they know he isn't the biggest threat. The primary target looks to be Jackie.
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Bunk Moreland
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1:20p, 8/4/15
I'm rooting for Jackie on that side. She's playing harder than Meg and James is an idiot. My HG ranking right now(not including Clelli) would be:

1) Johny Mac
2) Vanessa(her emotional drama has been annoying me but she's playing the best game)
3) Jackie
4) Becky
5) Meg
6) James
7) Julia
8) Steve
9) Liz
10) Austin

with 8, 9 & 10 really down there. Julia will join them soon, but I just haven't seen enough from yet to fully form my hatred. I give her points for calling out Austin and realizing that he's kind of a joke.
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RockInspector
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1:30p, 8/4/15
I'd like to see Becky win HoH and put up Steve and Austin and then back door either Vanessa or Liz after saving Steve.
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1:36p, 8/4/15
The problem with Jackie is that she isn't playing well at all right now. With James in power she is back to doing what she did before in hanging out with Meg and James and then sleeping all the time.



I'm curious about Steve in this Freaks and Geeks thing. He's gone against the group in the vote before. I could easily see Steve vote out Shelli. I think he would be immediately known as the traitor and think he is smart enough to know better, but he has a weird streak in him that might do it.
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In reply to RockInspector • 1:37p, 8/4/15
"mayn thay the power couple in the house. They always gonna fight for each other so we got to break em up. But Vanessa is the head of the snake" /james
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In reply to aggietoolman • 2:02p, 8/4/15
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The problem with Jackie is that she isn't playing well at all right now. With James in power she is back to doing what she did before in hanging out with Meg and James and then sleeping all the time.

But that's not a bad strategy for her. In her position, she needs to make waves when she can, win comps(she got 1), contribute, but not be the leader. Her issue right now is Meg is more liked than her, so from the "that side" of the house game that Vanessa or Austwins will play if they win HOH...Jackie will be a target before Meg.

Jackie's best interest is to slide over to JMac and Becky slowly the next few weeks and hope that James gets picked off, followed by either Shelli or Vanessa.

Clay going home will hurt her game.
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4:33p, 8/4/15
To me the problem is Jackie/James/Meg seems to basically be hanging out themselves, instead of going to JMac, Becki, and Steve and trying to form something.

"Hey look, Shelli told us everything, Austin,Liz,Julia,Vanessa are all in a big alliance. Vanessa is great at comps and Liz has done pretty well. Let's just have a mutual pack that if any of us win HoH, one of them needs to go. Otherwise, every week after this where we don't pare that group down, they just get stronger."

Would it work, I don't know. But they just seem to think James is going to be HoH for the rest of the season.


Vanessa, aside from her faux drama, is probably my favorite player, mostly cause she's actually playing poker while everyone is playing Go Fish (badly).
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RockInspector
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5:08p, 8/4/15
Wow...Vanessa is just flat out making **** up about Clay to Shelli and now Shelli is getting pissed at Clay. Clay hasn't been talking to anyone but Shelli and occasionally Vanessa. He even asked Vanessa if there was anyway Shelli would be able to stay in the house.

There is really no point in doing this to Clay. Just tell him he's gone. Even if he tells James, there is nothing either of them can do about it. Vanessa has the votes and her alliance trusts her. Lying to Shelli to make Clay look bad is poor form and serves no purpose.

It's a game but that is pretty f***ed up.

And Shelli and Austin are getting destroyed on popularity polls. If America ever gets a vote, those two are screwed.
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5:12p, 8/4/15
Shell is now pissed that Clay "wants to stay."

Jesus. Clay ****ed this all up for himself. He should have fought from the moment James won POV to talk james into using it on him and split from Shelli.
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5:26p, 8/4/15
Still plenty of time for production to get in some people's ears. You never know.

I can imagine that Austin is the least favorite of most people. I liked him at first but he is just a creeper. He's Cody except that Liz is putting up with it as a game move which is smart.
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7:13p, 8/4/15
CBS should have been airing the show everyday this week. It is pretty entertaining. Clay is pissed at the world and Shelli is being nice to everyone. Austin and the twins go to James and Meg and say that Clay is making them uneasy and that Clay is coming after Austin and wants to take him out.

James and Meg basically put no stock in what the are saying and say Shelli is still the plan.

Austin trying to cover his ass with Team James as to why he is voting Clay out but James is sticking to his guns.

Gotta give James Credit, whether his plan is stupid or not, he will not be manipulated into playing someone else's game.

A rewind/reset this week would be epic.
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8:57p, 8/4/15
Just missed it, but pretty sure Austin is trying to kiss Liz some more.


Really don't get Vanessa's plan to bad mouth Clay other she is all about "having a reason" for why she is gonna torpedo James' plan.
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11:52p, 8/4/15
Watch the last 10-15 minutes of feeds to understand how well Vanessa is playing the game and how clueless Jackie and James are.
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12:22a, 8/5/15
You guys actually pay to watch those live feeds? do they show boobs or something?
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In reply to Francis Macomber • 12:59a, 8/5/15
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You guys actually pay to watch those live feeds? do they show boobs or something?


There are quite a few sets I'd pay to see this season!
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1:31a, 8/5/15
Clay and shelli makeout sesh
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In reply to Scotch • 2:27a, 8/5/15
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Watch the last 10-15 minutes of feeds to understand how well Vanessa is playing the game and how clueless Jackie and James are.
They just figured out that Vanessa has been playing them. Jackie just called Vanessa her next target.
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In reply to Scotch • 6:57a, 8/5/15
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Watch the last 10-15 minutes of feeds to understand how well Vanessa is playing the game and how clueless Jackie and James are.


Was that where Meg was like "I'm not a 100% sure I trust their side (Vanessa & co.). Maybe we shouldn't just target floaters if we win"

No chit Sherlock. At least she has finally wrapped her head around the game.
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8:16a, 8/5/15
Meg nailed who they should be targeting but she is absolutely clueless about Steve.

Vanessa just screwed over Austin and the twins by making it okay for her to vote out Clay. Austin and twins have come to the realization that they are in the toughest spot and now are considering voting with the house to evict Shelli.

Vanessa's little BS quote..."I just think everyone should do what is best for their game" after she agreed to vote out whoever James wanted out just put the target squarely on her.

After she left, Jackie was like"No, we have control this week and you do what we say and vote out Shelli."

Jackie had more balsa tonight than James
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8:30a, 8/5/15
Did anyone catch the deal that Vanessa tried to make with everyone up in the HoH room last night?

Basically, she wanted everyone to agree not to put each other up on the block or back door anyone. The only people not part of the deal were Johhny Mac, Steve and the remainde of Clelli.

Team James were all like sure, you bet and as soon as they left, Jackie said she would now target Vanessa.

And Meg is sweet on Clay and told her group she would not put Clay up next week. They still think Shellimis going home but are starting to wise up on a possible blindside.

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8:47a, 8/5/15
James already had Vanessa on his radar, but it's just been solidified at this point to their whole group. Don't forget that Audrey had outed that alliance to James prior to her eviction. That seed was already planted and really has been verified after this week. All Vanessa had to do was stay quiet and let Clelli fall out one way or the other and then work with the remainder of her alliance. Instead she's been paranoid and working people all over the house and put a huge target on her back.

Of course none of that will matter unless Jackie wins or Austin and the twins defect to cover there own game.

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9:17a, 8/5/15
Well they finally wiised up, but Meg, James and Jackie still don't have the numbers. At the time I made my post Jackie "caught" Vanessa talking game but was clueless that Clay might be the one voted out. Looks like the trio and Becky kept talking until they stumbled upon a brick wall.
I'll have to watch the feeds after I turned them off.
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11:01a, 8/5/15
You know, I must say.. For this cast to not go back, and to tell Clay, all the lies Vanessa has been spreading about him is very surprising.
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In reply to tailgatetimer10 • 11:04a, 8/5/15
Do they know it's lies?
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In reply to Bunk Moreland • 11:25a, 8/5/15
No, but in this house typically the word gets back around to the person. And, whomever the lies are about, calls them out or gets the stories straight.
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In reply to tailgatetimer10 • 11:42a, 8/5/15
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You know, I must say.. For this cast to not go back, and to tell Clay, all the lies Vanessa has been spreading about him is very surprising.
Nobody wants to talk to Clay (and he doesn't seem to want to talk to anyone either) except Shelli, Johnny Mac and Vanessa (albeit reluctantly)

James and Austin both are worried about Clay winning HoH and putting them on the block but James still wants to stick to the plan because he believes his odds are better with Clay competing rather than Shelli (and he is right).

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In reply to tailgatetimer10 • 12:34p, 8/5/15
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No, but in this house typically the word gets back around to the person. And, whomever the lies are about, calls them out or gets the stories straight.

Yeah but this cast is all-star stupid. no backroom deals or anything. No building across the aisle. Everyone seems pretty firm right now in their little bubble, and they are all just sitting and watching holes pop up around them, with no one really making moves other than within their own trusted allies.

I think most of the HG's will believe Vanessa, and not even talk to Clay about it. Of course he's not helping himself by acting the way he is in the house. This whole week he shoulda been hanging out with all of them.
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In reply to Bunk Moreland • 1:40p, 8/5/15
100% agree. They are buying the "straight shooter" persona that Vanessa is giving them, even though they have instances that prove otherwise.
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Bunk Moreland
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4:16p, 8/5/15
so apparently Vanessa wants Clay and Shelli to "out" Becky as a rat and a snitch to James and tell James that Becky has been feeding them information all week or the last couple weeks right after talking with Jame's side.

Clelli apparently on board with that for some idiotic reason?!

Shelli then went into super bitter mode a while ago. Calling James a nasty little man, emphasizing nasty. Then Going on and on to the point where Clay wasn't even giving a reaction.

Shelli is just stewing and going on and on about how arrogant James is, etc. She is right, but she needs to move her mind around and focus elsewhere.

Guess there's a weird chance for some drama today. Why would Becky be thrown into all of this? Vanessa is stirring the pot like crazy. She's calling James power hungry, but I feel like she may have played too hard too fast the last 2 weeks, and this is all going to catch up to her.
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5:09p, 8/5/15
Bunk - It appears Vanessa's plan (at least for the moment) is to go ahead and let the house vote out Shelli (don't think she knows) and then set up next week for a Clay and Becky Block Party (and hope for a double eviction). Even if it is not a double eviction, her plan is to take the target off of her and her team and put it on someone else.

My guess is that Shelli doesn't know she is being evicted so she is going along with this plan thinking Becky is the target next week...again, just guessing on that part. That is the only way it makes sense to go along with it.
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Bunk Moreland
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5:15p, 8/5/15
Oh I gotcha. So Vanessa now is back to voting out Shelli? That's definitely the right move.
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5:24p, 8/5/15
It is hilarious watching Vanessa get pissed about having to vote with the HoH when she was freaking out about the one lone vote where Liz went rogue and voted to keep Jeff. He was still gone but she freaked out about that vote. Such a hypocrite.

They (Team Vanessa) should go to Clay with hat in hand and offer an olive branch and then try and calm the masses on Team James and say no worries James, Shelli is out.

Her paranoia has caught up to her and short of one of her team mates winning HoH, she will be on the block next week with only herself to blame. Look, fight the good fight before the PoV as well as for the PoV. If it doesn't work out you say you tried everything and you hate to see them go but...Sometimes, you just gotta cut people loose (Shelli).
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