Damn Clay is really gonna regret doing that for some chick 10 years older than him that he met 7 weeks ago. She is so dominating and controlling over him. He may like the comfort of that now due to the psychology of living in that house, but no way he's going to be able to deal with that long-term.

What a wasted opportunity. Maybe JChen will announce tonight that his game might not be over.

I have a feeling they they put him in sequester for a few weeks and have a play in with 3 or 4 HGs. Expect the unexpected means they can do what they want!

I tend to agree. It's not the right "time" for them to do that whole gig, but you know Grodner and CBS love doing stuff that can continue their narrative. If they found a way to reunite the dream showmance, they will.

BB used to only have 7 jurors. I forgot that 2 years ago that switched to 9. So we are one away from what they think Jury will be.

i wouldn't mind them moving it back to 7 jurors, and then having the next 3 evicted HG's play with a chance to come back in the house or something.

The dude needs to quit putting the pootie on a pedestal.

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The last few pages have me confused... So basically there's no real set of rules and the producers can do whatever they want?

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Yes. That's more or less in the fine print of the contract to enter the house. They can do what they want to manipulate the game. Obviously they have to adhere to the federal game show rules. They can't have a competition to find a hidden key in a pile of hay and tell one HG where it is and not the rest...but if they need the house to shake it up a week, maybe they go with the competition that's better suited for one over another.

If they want to keep a houseguest in the game longer, maybe they introduce a new "twist" and give a special power.

It's rare, and the basic structure stays the same, but more or less they can do what they want.

If you do a little googling, look at the season of Big Brother with Jeff & Jordan. America was absolutely in love with them, and Jeff was going to be going home soon as their side of the house was being dominated. He "received" the best power you could ever receive in the game to completely flip the house. Got a 'Coup d'etat" which gave him the power to use at either of the next 2 evictions, to overthrow the HOH's nominations and nominate any other 2 people he wanted right on the spot, other than the HOH and POV winner. And I almost want to say CBS did a "America's vote" to determine who would win it...and at that point in the game, Jeff & Jordan were by far the most liked.

Most years they'll do some sort of "holding" of 3 or 4 HG's in a row in sequester after they are evicted and let them fight to have 1 return to the game, etc.

I mean, I thought last week they cancelled BOB earlier than the previous year for a reason. It was getting pretty repetitive seeing the same strategy used week to week.

Have they given up on the "BB Takeover" concept? Haven't heard it mentioned in several weeks. Production of this show is so strange.

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Have they given up on the "BB Takeover" concept? Haven't heard it mentioned in several weeks. Production of this show is so strange.

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Shelli basically said as much either last night or this morning. Commented about "I thought there was supposed to be a twist every week. We haven't had anything for 2 weeks? I guess maybe it was that BotB is over and Julia came in?"

There's been something different every week. But I haven't heard the "takeover" jingle since Gronk.

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That is correct...It is a lot like cups

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This is why the internet was invented

In order for the "bringing someone back" bit to work they need to have people on both sides of the house in the pool. That way the decision maker won't know if they are bringing back an ally or an enemy.

There hasn't been a Pandora's box in a while right? They could do that and being someone back.

Good call.

The easiest way to bring Clay back in is just to say "but your time night not be over" and just send him to sequester, and give the next HOH a Pandora's box, or give it to the house. If they open it, he comes walks back in. If they don't, he stays gone.

It would be pretty funny if they did the BB rewind from last season. Can you imagine the meltdowns if this week basically didn't happen and they had to do it all over again? I hated it last year but I think I would find it highly entertaining this time.

I just turned on feeds about ten minutes ago and was about to jump back to see highlighted conversations, when all of the sudden Vanessa is talking to James saying that Clay said that James said that Van was coming after JMac, or something like that, I'm totally confused. But this caused James to blow up at Clay(probably Van's desired effect), it's intense.

Thu 3:11 PM BBT
Austin to Twins: we stick with the plan and we vote to evict Shelli NT



Thu 3:10 PM BBT
Austin is in the bathroom with James, Meg, and Jackie telling them that Clay has played them all, wants to stay.

They are agreeing. Meg says they have to vote him out now.

Austin says it's Audrey level.

James says Clay is the male Audrey.

Austin: So Clay, Audrey and Johnny Mac are triplets

James says please don't put him in the jury house with Clay.

lol WTF Is going on?!

Vanessa blew up today, her web of lies caught up to her. James told Meg to please vote for him to leave. And in that convo he said "i've heard that James has been sort of bullying votes to get Shelli out"

So once Austin and everyone told James they were going to respect Clay's wishes sinec he's begging to go, James blows up. Vanessa blows up. All about some **** James said about Vanessa, through Johnny Mac?

Then James goes to confront Clay and he told James to get the **** out of the room.

and now, apparently Aust/twins are going to vote to evict Shelli?!

What a cluster this has turned in to.

If Clay stays, he's going to cry. And of course Shelli will too.

Vanessa is a piece of sh*t. She tells Shelli in front of Clay that he has been scheming trying to stay in the house. She says he made a deal with Johnny Mac and Clay told her she was mistaken and he has not been trying to stay. Shelli doubts him for a moment.

Clay may end up with two votes max and has told everyone who will listen that he wants to be evicted. If Vanessa wins this deal, these people (her alliance) are going to feel like fools for having trusted her hen they watch the shows.

This almost seems like a ploy by Vanessa to take the fact that J-Mac found out about him being a target next week and she is putting it on Clay and trying to make James and Shelli pissed at Clay and then trying to get James to flip the house on Clay....because apparently, the Austwins have different ideas about keeping Shelli. Which would mean Vanessa doesn't have the votes to keep Shelli so she is throwing a Hail Mary.

What a b**ch.

My head is spinning listening to Vanessa. She is nuts. I'll have to go back and watch the start of things, but she is completely freaking out. I can't tell how much is legit or if she is just trying to justify voting Clay out and putting the target on Johnny Mac for next week. I think she is all about creating chaos in hopes of keeping the spotlight off of her. I think people are starting to catch onto her though.

But it is entertaining.

Dang, I think the feeds are down until after the show. I want more!

This is really going beyond the game at this point. She is just a more sophisticated Audrey...with a hint of evil mixed in. I'll be glad when she is gone.

Man, she must have really fallen on hard times on the poker circuit over the last few years to be so damn desperate.

My opinion of Clay just went waaaaaaay up. He covered for Johnny Mac like a boss.

J-Mac then partially ruins it by being too open with Steve. We'll see if Steve keeps it to himself(which he sometimes does), or gives the info straight to Van.

Jmac called it earlier. Said she cries and sends someone home every week. Each week she cries about someone and pulls this bs and that person goes home. He thinks he's next in the cross hairs.

Jmac has her figured out.

Man I hope clay somehow stays

Anyone who thinks Van is not a great game player should hear the recent conversation in the bathroom. Everyone, including James, wants to evict Clay now. Van gets her way and makes everyone think they actually want to do it.

"The House" now thinks Clay is some mastermind that was asking to get voted out in an effort to stay.

Vanessa may not get to the end, but watching her play the game is fun, listening to her voice... not so much.

I haven't seen a better time to use a rewind ever.

Endurance comp will really show who's in it this week, and we've already walked through what will happen. The factions are fighting, and there's a visible rift in the power alliance now. We also know that veto would be a crap shoot, so the HOH winner would need to do another power move instead of the backdoor.

On top of that, forcing an unscheduled rewind may even add another double eviction night -- which are always awesome.

LOL, Meg predicted the huge blow up will be on the Sunday episode in a black and white flashback, "three hours before eviction..."

A rewind would be epic because there is some real hate going on in that house right now.

I can't tell if Clay wants to beat James ass or Vanessa's ass more.

So apparently Johnny Mac and Clay are cousins or "gay lovers". Vanessa's brilliance coupled with her paranoia knows no bounds.

Audrey would be proud.

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Vanessa has been pushing the put up the remainder of clay/shelli and Jmac, Steve, or Becky. Clelli refused to go along on Becky so Vanessa is going after Jmac and it's getting back to her. She is super paranoid about a double eviction tonight and is working overtime to keep herself safe. She is screwing over herself in the process. It starts to fall apart and she starts the waterworks woe is me crap to gain sympathy. It definitely makes good tv. Curious if they get any of it in tonight or has to wait until Sunday.

Damnit. Wish clay would have somehow survived. Vanessa is railroading the **** out of him but she's doing crazy good to manipulate them all.

As soon as production said wear something athletic for hoh, she freaked out cause she sucks at athletic comps and this all started

Johnny Mac has a chance of winning if it's something athletic/endurance. I hope he sends Vanessa's ass home. She has been a manipulative genius/ paranoid psycho and it looks like it might finally catch up to her.