FriscoKid said:

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shack009 said:

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So many terrible basketball takes and/or people doing unfunny memes. If you're going to do a meme, at least make sure it's funny.

This thread has become a beating with people who didn't know anything about the team before the trade.

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With all due respect some of us were Mavs fans from game 1 because of Luka. Some of us had kids that scheduled their nights around the games to watch him do his thing. I don't give two cares about the Mavs jersey anymore.

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FriscoKid said:

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shack009 said:

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So many terrible basketball takes and/or people doing unfunny memes. If you're going to do a meme, at least make sure it's funny.

This thread has become a beating with people who didn't know anything about the team before the trade.

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With all due respect some of us were Mavs fans from game 1 because of Luka. Some of us had kids that scheduled their nights around the games to watch him do his thing. I don't give two cares about the Mavs jersey anymore.

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gigem1223 said:

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shack009 said:

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So many terrible basketball takes and/or people doing unfunny memes. If you're going to do a meme, at least make sure it's funny.

This thread has become a beating with people who didn't know anything about the team before the trade.

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It's become apparent there were more Luka fan boys than actual Mavs fans that frequented this thread. I get being upset about the trade. I am too, but be honest about it. IE complaining of the AD injury when Luka has missed more games than AD the last 2 years. Or actually convince yourself this isn't a title contender when healthy.

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shack009 said:

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Zachary Klement said:

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gigem1223 said:

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And Gafford, PJ and Lively?

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Mavs win today if they don't ship Luka off.

Defense wins championships roster has given up 123 points per game since dealing Luka for pennys on the dollar.

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This is a legitimate question: Was this a terrible attempt at humor or do you need basketball explained to you?

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mavsfan4ever said:

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gigem1223 said:

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shack009 said:

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So many terrible basketball takes and/or people doing unfunny memes. If you're going to do a meme, at least make sure it's funny.

This thread has become a beating with people who didn't know anything about the team before the trade.

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It's become apparent there were more Luka fan boys than actual Mavs fans that frequented this thread. I get being upset about the trade. I am too, but be honest about it. IE complaining of the AD injury when Luka has missed more games than AD the last 2 years. Or actually convince yourself this isn't a title contender when healthy.

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How convenient you pick 2 years. Bc last year was the major outlier for AD where he played 75 games. Use any other span on the last 6 years and it's laughable. And Luka led the mavs to the finals last year. So injuries were not a concern.

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mavsfan4ever said:

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gigem1223 said:

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shack009 said:

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So many terrible basketball takes and/or people doing unfunny memes. If you're going to do a meme, at least make sure it's funny.

This thread has become a beating with people who didn't know anything about the team before the trade.

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It's become apparent there were more Luka fan boys than actual Mavs fans that frequented this thread. I get being upset about the trade. I am too, but be honest about it. IE complaining of the AD injury when Luka has missed more games than AD the last 2 years. Or actually convince yourself this isn't a title contender when healthy.

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How convenient you pick 2 years. Bc last year was the major outlier for AD where he played 75 games. Use any other span on the last 6 years and it's laughable. And Luka led the mavs to the finals last year. So injuries were not a concern.

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gigem1223 said:

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mavsfan4ever said:

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gigem1223 said:

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shack009 said:

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So many terrible basketball takes and/or people doing unfunny memes. If you're going to do a meme, at least make sure it's funny.

This thread has become a beating with people who didn't know anything about the team before the trade.

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It's become apparent there were more Luka fan boys than actual Mavs fans that frequented this thread. I get being upset about the trade. I am too, but be honest about it. IE complaining of the AD injury when Luka has missed more games than AD the last 2 years. Or actually convince yourself this isn't a title contender when healthy.

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How convenient you pick 2 years. Bc last year was the major outlier for AD where he played 75 games. Use any other span on the last 6 years and it's laughable. And Luka led the mavs to the finals last year. So injuries were not a concern.

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Injuries were not a concern with Luka?? Are you serious? He was literally hurt the entire playoff run. Luka is a great player and it sucks to lose him. I was a mavs fan long before Luka and will continue to be. Just insane to me the fan girling going on about 1 player over a franchise you're supposed to be a fan of.

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Zachary Klement said:

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shack009 said:

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Zachary Klement said:

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gigem1223 said:

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And Gafford, PJ and Lively?

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Mavs win today if they don't ship Luka off.

Defense wins championships roster has given up 123 points per game since dealing Luka for pennys on the dollar.

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This is a legitimate question: Was this a terrible attempt at humor or do you need basketball explained to you?

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What part do you take issue with?

They win if Luka stayed.

I understand the team has a number of injuries that impact defensive performance. I'm mocking the fact that they parrot the defense narrative when that is a ******ed justification for the trade.

They did deal Luka for pennys on the dollar. That is simply a fact.

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jeffdjohnson said:

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I think the last couple of days have been illuminating in that this wasn't just Nico's call. Dumont's comments come across very arrogant and even a little angry towards Luka. Maybe Nico had already poisoned that useful idiot's mind, but clearly Dumont never considered pushing back. Also Kidd admitted to knowing "at the 11th hour", but clearly that doesn't mean at 11 p.m. before the trade. He definitely knew about it, probably in the preceding day or two. And there is no way he wasn't also on board. The three stooges of the Mavs apocalypse.

This situation has also been illuminating on what sports fandom means to me. Sports are ultimately entertainment. They make a good hobby to pass the time and are a good way to connect with others in the community. Following player transactions, you ultimately judge them (both in the moment and afterwards) on if they bring the team closer to a championship. Through that lens only winning a championship matters as a fan.... Well, that's what I thought anyways. Turns out there is still a human element that maybe the spreadsheets and hot takes don't take into account. It turns out that if you openly have contempt for the franchise it's hard to care if they win a championship. When that contempt turns into loathing due to the pettiness and arrogance of those running the franchise it's easy to root for the franchise failure. Now it isn't entertaining anymore which was the whole point of following sports to begin with.

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shack009 said:

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Zachary Klement said:

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shack009 said:

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Zachary Klement said:

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gigem1223 said:

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And Gafford, PJ and Lively?

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Mavs win today if they don't ship Luka off.

Defense wins championships roster has given up 123 points per game since dealing Luka for pennys on the dollar.

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This is a legitimate question: Was this a terrible attempt at humor or do you need basketball explained to you?

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What part do you take issue with?

They win if Luka stayed.

I understand the team has a number of injuries that impact defensive performance. I'm mocking the fact that they parrot the defense narrative when that is a ******ed justification for the trade.

They did deal Luka for pennys on the dollar. That is simply a fact.

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Basketball-wise, all of it. Comedy-wise, also all of it.

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gigem1223 said:

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First and foremost, I'm a mavs fan….not just a single players fan. If you're done with the franchise and not a mavs fan over the trade then leave the thread. The incessant *****ing and whining over something we have no control over has gotten out of control. We get it. You're upset. You have every right to be. But the stupid echo chamber trolling needs to stop. Stand behind your team or leave it. Thats my opinion.

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mavsfan4ever said:

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gigem1223 said:

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First and foremost, I'm a mavs fan….not just a single players fan. If you're done with the franchise and not a mavs fan over the trade then leave the thread. The incessant *****ing and whining over something we have no control over has gotten out of control. We get it. You're upset. You have every right to be. But the stupid echo chamber trolling needs to stop. Stand behind your team or leave it. Thats my opinion.

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You didn't answer my question. Is your answer that there is absolutely nothing Nico or dumont could do to make you stop cheering for the mavs? They could raise ticket prices 10x, trade away all our good players, and you'd still root for them?

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mavsfan4ever said:

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Your arrogant and condescending posts are ridiculous. Just don't respond to posts if you don't like them.

You are clearly a mavs fan and will remain one going forward. Honest question for you and shack: is there nothing that this ownership group or GM could do that would make you no longer be a fan of the team? Nothing at all that would make it to where you just can't bring yourself to root for the mavs? If your answer is no, then that's definitely a loyal fan but is a little weird. Or if there is something, then where do you draw the line? I completely get not turning on your team bc they make bad moves. But this was different. This was sinister by the GM and owner.

The GM literally lied to the fans (or at least lied by nondisclosure/omission) and traded away the heart and sole of the franchise without telling anyone. He kept it secret bc he knew the fans would revolt if word got out and that he then wouldn't be able to convince the dumbass owner to sign off on it. And you are okay just rooting for someone like that? Why? He doesn't give a **** about the fans so why should we root for his team?

And on top of that, after Gutting the team, they are now kicking people out of the arena, not letting them in with Nico shirts, etc. It's a complete joke. We are a joke franchise as long as Nico remains here.

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Zachary Klement said:

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mavsfan4ever said:

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gigem1223 said:

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First and foremost, I'm a mavs fan….not just a single players fan. If you're done with the franchise and not a mavs fan over the trade then leave the thread. The incessant *****ing and whining over something we have no control over has gotten out of control. We get it. You're upset. You have every right to be. But the stupid echo chamber trolling needs to stop. Stand behind your team or leave it. Thats my opinion.

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You didn't answer my question. Is your answer that there is absolutely nothing Nico or dumont could do to make you stop cheering for the mavs? They could raise ticket prices 10x, trade away all our good players, and you'd still root for them?

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yes. He's just a Mavs fan. Does not care how much of a **** show the org is.

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Zachary Klement said:

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mavsfan4ever said:

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gigem1223 said:

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First and foremost, I'm a mavs fan….not just a single players fan. If you're done with the franchise and not a mavs fan over the trade then leave the thread. The incessant *****ing and whining over something we have no control over has gotten out of control. We get it. You're upset. You have every right to be. But the stupid echo chamber trolling needs to stop. Stand behind your team or leave it. Thats my opinion.

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You didn't answer my question. Is your answer that there is absolutely nothing Nico or dumont could do to make you stop cheering for the mavs? They could raise ticket prices 10x, trade away all our good players, and you'd still root for them?

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yes. He's just a Mavs fan. Does not care how much of a **** show the org is.

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gigem1223 said:

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Zachary Klement said:

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mavsfan4ever said:

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gigem1223 said:

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First and foremost, I'm a mavs fan….not just a single players fan. If you're done with the franchise and not a mavs fan over the trade then leave the thread. The incessant *****ing and whining over something we have no control over has gotten out of control. We get it. You're upset. You have every right to be. But the stupid echo chamber trolling needs to stop. Stand behind your team or leave it. Thats my opinion.

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You didn't answer my question. Is your answer that there is absolutely nothing Nico or dumont could do to make you stop cheering for the mavs? They could raise ticket prices 10x, trade away all our good players, and you'd still root for them?

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yes. He's just a Mavs fan. Does not care how much of a **** show the org is.

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If we're being honest the Mavs were a **** show for most their existence. Being a loyal fan, is just that.

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shack009 said:

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Zachary Klement said:

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mavsfan4ever said:

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gigem1223 said:

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First and foremost, I'm a mavs fan….not just a single players fan. If you're done with the franchise and not a mavs fan over the trade then leave the thread. The incessant *****ing and whining over something we have no control over has gotten out of control. We get it. You're upset. You have every right to be. But the stupid echo chamber trolling needs to stop. Stand behind your team or leave it. Thats my opinion.

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You didn't answer my question. Is your answer that there is absolutely nothing Nico or dumont could do to make you stop cheering for the mavs? They could raise ticket prices 10x, trade away all our good players, and you'd still root for them?

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yes. He's just a Mavs fan. Does not care how much of a **** show the org is.

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I am a Mavs fan. If you aren't you should not be commenting in the thread.

This is why Astros fans catch bans for commenting in the Rangers thread. The thread is derailed from actually talking about the Mavs season. It's just a bunch of people doing unfunny memes now.

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mavsfan4ever said:

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Bc I've been a fan for 30 years so I like talking about the mavs. And am still watching the games. And will root for them again as soon as Nico is gone.

Please don't go tell the mods that 30 year mavs fans are saying bad things about the mavs GM in the mavs thread. Good god.

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Zachary Klement said:

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shack009 said:

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Zachary Klement said:

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shack009 said:

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Zachary Klement said:

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gigem1223 said:

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And Gafford, PJ and Lively?

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Mavs win today if they don't ship Luka off.

Defense wins championships roster has given up 123 points per game since dealing Luka for pennys on the dollar.

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This is a legitimate question: Was this a terrible attempt at humor or do you need basketball explained to you?

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What part do you take issue with?

They win if Luka stayed.

I understand the team has a number of injuries that impact defensive performance. I'm mocking the fact that they parrot the defense narrative when that is a ******ed justification for the trade.

They did deal Luka for pennys on the dollar. That is simply a fact.

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Basketball-wise, all of it. Comedy-wise, also all of it.

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So we don't win if Luka was here?

Dumping your 25 year old superstar for an injury-prone 32-year-old is not stupid because dEfEnSe?

Luka wasn't sold for penny's on the dollar?

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shack009 said:

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Zachary Klement said:

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shack009 said:

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Zachary Klement said:

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shack009 said:

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Zachary Klement said:

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gigem1223 said:

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And Gafford, PJ and Lively?

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Mavs win today if they don't ship Luka off.

Defense wins championships roster has given up 123 points per game since dealing Luka for pennys on the dollar.

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This is a legitimate question: Was this a terrible attempt at humor or do you need basketball explained to you?

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What part do you take issue with?

They win if Luka stayed.

I understand the team has a number of injuries that impact defensive performance. I'm mocking the fact that they parrot the defense narrative when that is a ******ed justification for the trade.

They did deal Luka for pennys on the dollar. That is simply a fact.

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Basketball-wise, all of it. Comedy-wise, also all of it.

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So we don't win if Luka was here?

Dumping your 25 year old superstar for an injury-prone 32-year-old is not stupid because dEfEnSe?

Luka wasn't sold for penny's on the dollar?

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Probably not. O Max had to play 34 minutes. Edwards played 26. Christie played 35 minutes and was a plus 23.

Derozan was insanely efficient. Was Luka shutting that down?

Luka teams had a really hard time with SAC teams until PJ and Gafford got here last year. PJ was out tonight. You know that right? Gafford was a +9 until he got hurt early. Did you know Gafford got hurt? I actually have to ask these questions because you comment like you have no idea.

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Zachary Klement said:

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shack009 said:

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Zachary Klement said:

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mavsfan4ever said:

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gigem1223 said:

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First and foremost, I'm a mavs fan….not just a single players fan. If you're done with the franchise and not a mavs fan over the trade then leave the thread. The incessant *****ing and whining over something we have no control over has gotten out of control. We get it. You're upset. You have every right to be. But the stupid echo chamber trolling needs to stop. Stand behind your team or leave it. Thats my opinion.

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You didn't answer my question. Is your answer that there is absolutely nothing Nico or dumont could do to make you stop cheering for the mavs? They could raise ticket prices 10x, trade away all our good players, and you'd still root for them?

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yes. He's just a Mavs fan. Does not care how much of a **** show the org is.

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I am a Mavs fan. If you aren't you should not be commenting in the thread.

This is why Astros fans catch bans for commenting in the Rangers thread. The thread is derailed from actually talking about the Mavs season. It's just a bunch of people doing unfunny memes now.

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I think most people here are/have been fans and some of the others that see things the way I do are questioning how to move forward with the team given how tone-deaf, stupid, and arrogant ownership and the FO are.

If my commentary is that much of a bother to y'all, I can dip and let y'all support Nico, Dumont, and the Adelsons in peace.

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gigem1223 said:

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Is not about supporting Nico and ownership. It's about cheering for the team you've been a fan of your whole life.

This team is deep and a legit title contender with some health. Unfortunately, they've been ravaged by injuries. Is what it is. Luka, PJ, Lively, AD, now Gafford. Just been a whirlwind but they're still playing hard. I seriously think this team can win a ship if they can just get healthy. Whether that happens or not is another story.

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gigem1223 said:

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Is not about supporting Nico and ownership. It's about cheering for the team you've been a fan of your whole life.

This team is deep and a legit title contender with some health. Unfortunately, they've been ravaged by injuries. Is what it is. Luka, PJ, Lively, AD, now Gafford. Just been a whirlwind but they're still playing hard. I seriously think this team can win a ship if they can just get healthy. Whether that happens or not is another story.

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• Arguably the most talented player in the NBA was cast aside for no good reason.
• Tonight, the Mavs were dominated inside in the 4th - at least in part - because they guy they traded him for and who is infamous for always being injured...was on the bench, injured
• This same night, ESPN, Gatorade, Jordan brand, the basketball media, etc. all rolled out the red carpet tonight for Luka's first game to talk about how Luka is poised to be the face of the Lakers and the NBA for the next decade.
• Meanwhile, if you show up to a Mavs game and have the audacity to say "Fire Nico," they escort you out. And yall want to call people "still" upset with the trade soft?
• And while Dallas is escorting its fans out, and there's a half empty arena watching an important OT game, ticket prices have tripled to watch your guy and mine make his debut in LA. In purple and gold.
• He didn't ask for a trade to go play with his buddies. Or decide he couldn't win in Dallas. He was dismissed and then **** talked on the way out by a guy who used his mother-in-law's money to buy the team, and who only wants guys like Jordan and Kobe and Shaq.

shack009 said:

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So many terrible basketball takes and/or people doing unfunny memes. If you're going to do a meme, at least make sure it's funny.

This thread has become a beating with people who didn't know anything about the team before the trade.

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shack009 said:

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mavsfan4ever said:

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Your arrogant and condescending posts are ridiculous. Just don't respond to posts if you don't like them.

You are clearly a mavs fan and will remain one going forward. Honest question for you and shack: is there nothing that this ownership group or GM could do that would make you no longer be a fan of the team? Nothing at all that would make it to where you just can't bring yourself to root for the mavs? If your answer is no, then that's definitely a loyal fan but is a little weird. Or if there is something, then where do you draw the line? I completely get not turning on your team bc they make bad moves. But this was different. This was sinister by the GM and owner.

The GM literally lied to the fans (or at least lied by nondisclosure/omission) and traded away the heart and sole of the franchise without telling anyone. He kept it secret bc he knew the fans would revolt if word got out and that he then wouldn't be able to convince the dumbass owner to sign off on it. And you are okay just rooting for someone like that? Why? He doesn't give a **** about the fans so why should we root for his team?

And on top of that, after Gutting the team, they are now kicking people out of the arena, not letting them in with Nico shirts, etc. It's a complete joke. We are a joke franchise as long as Nico remains here.

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He has a point. If you want to talk about Luka incessantly then this is no longer the thread for it. Why are Luka fan boys on this thread and why are they so unfunny? Hardly anybody was posting in this thread until the trade and now we have a bunch of people who know absolutely nothing about basketball, the Mavs team, the NBA, or comedy who are commenting.

I will redirect the question to you: If you aren't a Mavs fan anymore then why are you commenting in the Mavs season thread? Non-Mavs fans should not be commenting in the thread.

Guitarsoup is excepted because he is respectful and also funny when he tries. He also knows a hell of a lot more about the Mavs and the NBA than 99% of the people have commented in this thread since the trade.

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