It's a bad call mainly because the restart would have been illegal regardless. The ref has to look at the totatality of the sequence.Project Gemini said:
I dont think its a bad call, unfortunately.
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Well there goes the league in this day and age
City will drop points as well. Let's not give up hope just yet. Next week will be tougher without Rice and maybe O.
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Two weeks not next week due to international break So hopefully O can be fit.Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:
City will drop points as well. Let's not give up hope just yet. Next week will be tougher without Rice and maybe O.
Also if you are going to be ticky tack the defender kicks the ball forward from where the foul occurred. The Ref can ge smart and force a correct restart from the spot of the foul.AustinScubaAg said:It's a bad call mainly because the restart would have been illegal regardless. The ref has to look at the totatality of the sequence.Project Gemini said:
I dont think its a bad call, unfortunately.
Like the tweet says, you have to be looking to send someone off to make that call. Its not like Rice put it into the stands or 50 yards away. That would be somewhat justifiable. This is a nonstarter and at most you tell him not to do it again. What you don't do is change the entire outlook of the game with 30+ minutes to go. I know I'm not a pro ref, but I have reffed games for over a decade.AustinScubaAg said:Also if you are going to be ticky tack the defender kicks the ball forward from where the foul occurred. The Ref can ge smart and force a correct restart from the spot of the foul.AustinScubaAg said:It's a bad call mainly because the restart would have been illegal regardless. The ref has to look at the totatality of the sequence.Project Gemini said:
I dont think its a bad call, unfortunately.
Figures. Arteta and squad with an early start this season on not winning the league.
AggieRob93 said:
Figures. Arteta and squad with an early start this season on not winning the league.
Please stop.
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wangus12 said:
Well there goes the league in this day and age
Obviously not true, but damn, it's horrible that it feels that way.
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Sure, I'll stop once Arteta's team quits dropping points to the Fulham's and Brighton's of the league. At the Emirates no less.
Can't win the league dropping points like this and expecting other title chasers to drop points as well.
Can't win the league dropping points like this and expecting other title chasers to drop points as well.
You guys can continue to blame the ref (bonus, you'll be able to do that any time we drop points). I'll blame the extremely high priced player who should've known better than to f around with an opponents free kick when he was on a yellow. Brain dead.
Brighton is good right now. We get it, you don't have as much faith in Arteta as most of us but it's misguided and frankly ridiculous.
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Look, I want Arsenal to win it all as much as anyone else on this thread. My faith in Arteta is based on what he has led this squad to accomplish in his time in charge - an FA cup and a return to the Champions League. There has beven unquestionable improvement with him at the helm, and I sincerely hope it continues. To be the best means the squad has to find ways on the pitch and on the touchline to win the games they should and games they shouldn't, and this season there won't be many games where Arsenal will go into them as an even or underdog opponent.
Brighton had 22 shot attempts today to Arsenal's 11, and Brighton had over 63% possession, with admittedly much of the difference coming once Rice was sent off. That being siad, these are not the stats a top team will allow if they are supposed to compete for the title.
Margins are thin between winners and losers at the top. Can't continue to leak points unexpectedly if Arsenal are to win it all.
Edit to add: Sorry to you and others for being so salty this morning. I'll stop mucking up this thread with argument.
Brighton had 22 shot attempts today to Arsenal's 11, and Brighton had over 63% possession, with admittedly much of the difference coming once Rice was sent off. That being siad, these are not the stats a top team will allow if they are supposed to compete for the title.
Margins are thin between winners and losers at the top. Can't continue to leak points unexpectedly if Arsenal are to win it all.
Edit to add: Sorry to you and others for being so salty this morning. I'll stop mucking up this thread with argument.
— C (@ctt_carys) August 31, 2024
Not even an hour later. Letter of the law, ladies and gentlemen.
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You don't have anything to be sorry about expecting us to take 3 points from Brighton at home
Every single team loses points to a squad they aren't supposed it. It happens every year except twice. It sucks but it's part of playing in the toughest league in the world.
Can you name a clearly better manager in the world than Arteta? There is probably one that you can say is better without any argument. He has rebuilt this team and we were so damn close to winning the EPL last year and we were the dominate top six team. Arteta isn't infallible but ****, he's really ****ing good and it doesn't appear like we can replace him with anyone better.
Brighton had four shots on goal. Four. And they did that against a team with 10 men, and hurt Odegaard, and our second best midfielder being sent off for a really ****ty goal. Honestly, we still should have won.
My criticism of Arteta is that he keeps dragging Partey out there but it's not as if we have someone clearly better at the moment to play that role.
In summaryArteta is one of the best in the world and we had some ****ty luck today.
Can you name a clearly better manager in the world than Arteta? There is probably one that you can say is better without any argument. He has rebuilt this team and we were so damn close to winning the EPL last year and we were the dominate top six team. Arteta isn't infallible but ****, he's really ****ing good and it doesn't appear like we can replace him with anyone better.
Brighton had four shots on goal. Four. And they did that against a team with 10 men, and hurt Odegaard, and our second best midfielder being sent off for a really ****ty goal. Honestly, we still should have won.
My criticism of Arteta is that he keeps dragging Partey out there but it's not as if we have someone clearly better at the moment to play that role.
In summaryArteta is one of the best in the world and we had some ****ty luck today.
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Brighton's coach moved up my **** list
Fabian Hürzeler on Declan Rice red card: "Clear red card. He shoots the ball away. If Arsenal think otherwise, there are now two opinions." #BHAFC
— Ryan Taylor (@RyanTaylorSport) August 31, 2024
Then asked about João Pedro kicking ball away: "You can't compare the two situations. Please don't compare the two situations."
That was an absolute garbage call and there is no way to argue it. Anyone who thinks that should have been a second yellow wants soccer to be a different game than the rest of us.
It would be one thing if he looked down and kicked a set ball. That ball was moving towards him from behind, hit him before he saw it, and he just pushed it about two feet to the right, then gets the **** kicked out of him.
Amateur hour for anyone thinking that was deserving of a card. And I don't even like Arsenal. Whoever thinks that can go F up another league and leave the Premier league alone.
Stupid ref is just stupid.
It would be one thing if he looked down and kicked a set ball. That ball was moving towards him from behind, hit him before he saw it, and he just pushed it about two feet to the right, then gets the **** kicked out of him.
Amateur hour for anyone thinking that was deserving of a card. And I don't even like Arsenal. Whoever thinks that can go F up another league and leave the Premier league alone.
Stupid ref is just stupid.
If a Brighton player did that, it wouldn't cross my mind that he should get a yellow and then red. How do I know? I didn't worry about it when Joao Pedro booted it
I will bet money PGMOL backs the call 100%.
AustinScubaAg said:
I will bet money PGMOL backs the call 100%.
It'll be a "letter of the law" thing. Only possible sliver of hope is they recognize the ball was rolled into Rice and was still moving when Rice knocked it
TXAggie2011 said:AustinScubaAg said:
I will bet money PGMOL backs the call 100%.
It'll be a "letter of the law" thing. Only possible sliver of hope is they recognize the ball was rolled into Rice and was still moving when Rice knocked it
Spirit of the game should override letter of the law. Sending someone off for tapping a moving ball is ridiculous. He delays nothing in terms of play
TXAggie2011 said:AustinScubaAg said:
I will bet money PGMOL backs the call 100%.
It'll be a "letter of the law" thing. Only possible sliver of hope is they recognize the ball was rolled into Rice and was still moving when Rice knocked it
Honestly the still moving is what makes it such a stupid call.
Same official, same player.
— Ryan (@RyanMKIV) August 31, 2024
No action.
Fuck you @FA_PGMOL pic.twitter.com/vNAXEn98pD
Spurs being spurs makes me a little bit happier at least
Lol Saudi tried to buy Trossard for 35m.
Red cards: Arsenal vs rest of the league in the VAR-era
https://www.reddit.com/r/Gunners/s/eu2cFLxeme
https://www.reddit.com/r/Gunners/s/eu2cFLxeme
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I just listened to the 2 Robbies podcast while waking the dog. My frustration with the sending off of Rice is back. The consensus was the ref mishandled the moment. A conversation with Rice would have sufficed.
I even think the conversation with Rice would have been ridiculous.OneBlitzer said:
I just listened to the 2 Robbies podcast while waking the dog. My frustration with the sending off of Rice is back. The consensus was the ref mishandled the moment. A conversation with Rice would have sufficed.
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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:I even think the conversation with Rice would have been ridiculous.OneBlitzer said:
I just listened to the 2 Robbies podcast while waking the dog. My frustration with the sending off of Rice is back. The consensus was the ref mishandled the moment. A conversation with Rice would have sufficed.
Anything less than Veltman gets a red for violent conduct is incorrect.
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Trying this out
You've got tickets for Premier League: Arsenal vs. Liverpool on Oct 27th at 10:30a CT
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You've got tickets for Premier League: Arsenal vs. Liverpool on Oct 27th at 10:30a CT
Cosm Dallas
5776 Grandscape Blvd
The Colony, TX 75056
Kind of a Vegas Sphere knock off - way smaller. Upscale sports bar experience with a giant screen and reserved seating.
Salah scoring the winner will look incredible.
You sure do spell Saka weird!!!
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Riccardo Calafiori left the Italy camp as the staff will take no risk after his injury against France. 🇮🇹
Calafiori will return to London and he will be assessed by Arsenal’s medical staff. 🩺 pic.twitter.com/caY8i8vOxr
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It was definitely a weird injury