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In reply to ellebee • 3:29p, 6/27/18
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Some types of garter and ribbon snake look very similar so you may have been correctly identifying what you were seeing back then.
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6:28p, 6/27/18
Ah ok thanks!
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In reply to chap • 6:27a, 6/28/18
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chap said:


My wife sees these all the time walking near our house. I never see them. She did get a picture today. Said it didn't move as she and the dog just walked by.


ID? Coloring says copperhead. Pattern confuses me.
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In reply to Maroonedinaustin • 7:17a, 6/28/18
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Definitely a copperhead.
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8:13a, 6/28/18
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Got this fella yesterday evening after getting back from Costco.



He was laying on the warm driveway.

Broad banded WS?

He was a snappy little guy. Struck at me three times, before I moved him outta the way of the truck.
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In reply to OnlyForNow • 8:24a, 6/28/18
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Correct! Mean little guys.
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In reply to Badace52 • 12:55p, 6/28/18
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Badace52 said:
That is a very accurate statement. Part of the reason water snakes get killed so frequently is that they are very aggressive and territorial snakes for the most part. In my experience, diamondback water snakes are a little more docile, but Nerodia erythrogaster (blotched/yellow-bellied/pain bellied) is a very aggressive species as are the broad banded water snakes. Not much experience with mississippi greens or other varieties.
May also explain why water moccasins get this reputation for nastiness and aggressiveness. Maybe they are being mistaken for the water snakes. I fish a lot so have had experience with both and I've rarely come across a cottonmouth that is aggressive, most are pretty docile actually whereas I've had many encounters with nasty tempered water snakes.
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2:13p, 6/28/18
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Well this is a timely discussion. I guy I know posted pics yesterday bragging about 2 "water moccasins" that he and his neighbor killed this week. I told him I thought they were not moccasins and at least one looked like a yellow belly water snake. He then decided to educate me on how it was aggressive, so it had to be a moccasin. Anyways, your thoughts based on these pics he posted?

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2:15p, 6/28/18
Both are PBWS
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In reply to f burg ag • 2:17p, 6/28/18
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Water snakes are notoriously "aggressive" as well under the right circumstances. Both look like water snakes to me.

2nd picture 100%. You can zoom in and see the vertical lines on his jaw.
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In reply to f burg ag • 2:25p, 6/28/18
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You're correct and your friend is a moron. If he thought it was a WM/Cottonmouth only because of behavior, he was likely wrong, and to continue to argue that it's a WM/CM after evidence is 100% contrary, solidifies his stupidity.
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3:33p, 6/28/18
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Vertical stripes on the mouth = harmless water snake, right?

Still learning.
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In reply to spadilly • 3:34p, 6/28/18
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Correct. "Mascara" over the eyes = WM
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3:43p, 6/28/18
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Here is his only other pic. To me the slender body and lack of a block head followed by a thin neck relative to said head is further evidence that this is not a moccasin.

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In reply to f burg ag • 3:55p, 6/28/18
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Mike is 0/2
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4:08p, 6/28/18
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So what have we learned today, class?

If you said "Mike is an idiot" you are correct.
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In reply to Scoopen Skwert • 4:20p, 6/28/18
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bh93 said:
So what have we learned today, class?

If you said "Mike is an idiot" you are correct.
To be fair, Mike is an overly proud alum of the Houston Cougars....so we should not expect an enhanced level of cognitive ability from him.
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In reply to f burg ag • 4:25p, 6/28/18
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f burg ag said:
Here is his only other pic. To me the slender body and lack of a block head followed by a thin neck relative to said head is further evidence that this is not a moccasin.

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There all kinds of basic identifiers that all say it's not venomous and I am no where near being an expert.
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4:40p, 6/28/18
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Out of curiosity and unrelated to my question above, are there any Herpetologists on this board?
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In reply to f burg ag • 4:47p, 6/28/18
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12fmane might as well be one. He knows pretty much everything there is to know about herpetology in the U.S.

Also, none of the pictures you posted are of cottonmouths. Every single one is Nerodia erythrogaster.
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In reply to Badace52 • 4:53p, 6/28/18
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Awesome. Thank all of you for your input. I love the OB!
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In reply to f burg ag • 4:54p, 6/28/18
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f burg ag said:
Here is his only other pic. To me the slender body and lack of a block head followed by a thin neck relative to said head is further evidence that this is not a moccasin.

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The eyes tell everything. Vipers eyes are different than non-venomous snakes.
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In reply to Daddy-O5 • 5:36p, 6/28/18
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J.D. c/o 05 said:
You can zoom in and see the vertical lines on his jaw.
Hell, don't even need to zoom in I've gotten so good at that one.
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6:49p, 6/28/18
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I like how people get so offended that snakes are "aggressive" when they're actively attempting to slice the snake's head off. I'm pretty sure I'd fight tooth and nail if some giant was harassing and trying to kill me.
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7:01p, 6/28/18
I will post tomorrow. Pretty sure I caught a Speckled King this evening. Got some pics and took him to my fence line which is next to my neighbor's pond. He can hunt all the water snakes it wants. Serious question how big a snake will a 3 ft king take on ?
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In reply to LisaMarie • 7:03p, 6/28/18
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The most egregious thing about his Facebook post was that to support the aggressiveness of the snake he posted a video of him messing with the snake WHILE IT HAD A FROG IN ITS MOUTH. Now I don't know 1/1000th of the information 12fmane does about snakes, but I am confident that any snake can be aggressive when you get between it and meals. Heck, my corn snake would get pissed if I did not leave it alone when it was eating time.
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8:27p, 6/28/18
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I wouldn't call Mike an idiot by any means but people that are so sure in their IDs when they are dead wrong make me roll my eyes. I compare it to any other aspect of life that I know a small bit about... I would never act like I know it for sure because I'll get busted as full of *****
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In reply to f burg ag • 8:28p, 6/28/18
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f burg ag said:
The most egregious thing about his Facebook post was that to support the aggressiveness of the snake he posted a video of him messing with the snake WHILE IT HAD A FROG IN ITS MOUTH. Now I don't know 1/1000th of the information 12fmane does about snakes, but I am confident that any snake can be aggressive when you get between it and meals. Heck, my corn snake would get pissed if I did not leave it alone when it was eating time.


True but quite a few that I have found in the act seem to realize they are compromised and try to immediately regurgitate and flee rather than fight.
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7:08a, 6/29/18
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My wife was at the Japanese Gardens in Fort Worth. She sent it to me for ID and after confirming it was non venomous, calmed everyone down at the park. Kids loved it too.
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7:12a, 6/29/18
https://imgur.com/a/vtzUSNE
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In reply to Tx Ag72 • 8:47a, 6/29/18
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In reply to Tx Ag72 • 10:00a, 6/29/18
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That's definitely a speckled king snake
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2:37p, 6/30/18
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Can you spot him? About the diameter of a pencil, 8-10 inches long in Middle TN.
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In reply to Rocky Top Aggie • 6:51p, 6/30/18
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Rocky Top Aggie said:


Can you spot him? About the diameter of a pencil, 8-10 inches long in Middle TN.


It's on whatever that black thing is. A rock?
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In reply to Rocky Top Aggie • 7:02p, 6/30/18
Rocky Top Aggie said:


Can you spot him? About the diameter of a pencil, 8-10 inches long in Middle TN.

Eh I couldn't spot my ex either and and he was about the diameter of a pencil.
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