MooreTrucker said:
-160 to make the HOF
+135 to not make the HOF
+135 is easiest money you will make in a long time. If you can place that bet somewhere, do it.
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+135 is easiest money you will make in a long time. If you can place that bet somewhere, do it.
http://www.sportsline.com/insiders/25796248/tony-romo-favored-to-make-nfl-hall-of-fame/?ttag=splnnlheadline304052017ac04 said:you sure you don't have those prices flipped?MooreTrucker said:
-160 to make the HOF
+135 to not make the HOF
I think Tony is a HOF talent but probably won't make the HOF. In my mind, he's right there with Dan Marino, Dan Fouts and Phil Rivers.
well now maybe he can make the HOF as a long time contributor to the league after a long broadcasting career.
lots of us would love to see that.
lots of us would love to see that.
I'm not a gambling guy at all, but time has got to be a factor there, right? The fact there won't be any payout for so many years?
Ag Natural said:
I think Tony is a HOF talent but probably won't make the HOF. In my mind, he's right there with Dan Marino, Dan Fouts and Phil Rivers.
2 of those are hall of famers
The other will be much much more likely to get in than Romo when he's done. If he quit today, he has better numbers.
Going into broadcasting will probably help his HoF chances more than making a run with another team.
Ag Natural said:
I think Tony is a HOF talent but probably won't make the HOF. In my mind, he's right there with Dan Marino, Dan Fouts and Phil Rivers.
No question he has HOF talent, but the post season issues will keep him out.
The NFL HOF is much easier to get in to than baseball. Almost every year they elect the max number of guys. I bet he eventually makes it.
I think Tony was amazing, but I think the comparisons to contemporary QBs hurt him. Brady, P Manning, Brees, and Rogers are shoe-ins. Eli and Rothlisberger also have strong cases. He and Rivers have very similar careers, so I'd say Rivers is in if Tony is in. That would be 8 HOF quarterbacks playing at the same time in a 32 team lead. Do we really consider top 25% of all QBs HOF material? Especially ones that have never won an MVP or a Super Bowl?
I am on board with the broadcast move helping him. If he spends a few decades in the booth after a superb (if not legendary) playing career, then he's a lock.
I am on board with the broadcast move helping him. If he spends a few decades in the booth after a superb (if not legendary) playing career, then he's a lock.
Who are the people getting in based on broadcasting career? Madden? Even he won a super bowl coaching
It's just a combination of career and broadcasting as it relates to their overall contributions to the game. It's not common, but its certainly not a minus to Tony's chances if he actually becomes a good commentator.BMX Bandit said:
Who are the people getting in based on broadcasting career? Madden? Even he won a super bowl coaching
I'd say Pat Summerall is a good comparison. A long playing career followed by great broadcasting career. Tony was a much better player than Pat, and I don't remember if Pat was inducted or just honored.Quote:
Who are the people getting in based on broadcasting career? Madden? Even he won a super bowl coaching
if he turns into a good broadcaster i can see him getting in. in fact, i'd say if 20 yrs from now he's still an "A Team" broadcaster and is generally well thought off and respected, his chances are very good.
Summerall is not in the Hall of Fame
I don't think Romo will ever get in. The lack of playoff success is going to be a killer. Even though we know he propped up this franchise for a long time when it would have been terrible with an average QB, I think he's gong to be seen nationally as a good QB that ended up with a lot of mostly empty numbers. And not a HOFer. AndI think a broadcasting career will have no impact on changing that.
To be a HOF player you either have to have playoff numbers/record worthy of it, or regular season numbers that are fantastic. While ROMO had really good seasons, he didn't have enough of them and he didn't have seasons that broke records. Sadly.
Yeah, apparently Summerall isn't. Tony seems to mirror Don Meredith pretty damn close so far. Good not great, no titles, and a (maybe) good broadcast career. Ring of Honor but not Hall of Fame. Honored by not inducted. So now I don't think he makes it at all, at least based on similar cases in the past
BMX Bandit said:
Who are the people getting in based on broadcasting career? Madden? Even he won a super bowl coaching
Frank Gifford
Gifford may be closest you'll find. But he was 6 time all pro. That's damn close to warrant HoF based just on just playing.
Yea, I mean honestly I don't believe Tony should be in the HoF. The only thing that pisses me off is knowing that Eli will most likely get there and I absolutely believe that Tony is much better than Eli. If neither got it, it wouldn't bug me at all.
Eli will end his career possibly top5 in TD passes. He's getting in easily.
For one game, I would take Romo. But Eli has a much better career
For one game, I would take Romo. But Eli has a much better career
Eli Manning is the perfect example of what rings to do to the perception of a guy's career. Take those away from him and he is incredibly mediocre. And it is naive to claim that he somehow won them on his own. He is a very lucky player. Derped his way to the top two timesBMX Bandit said:
Eli will end his career possibly top5 in TD passes. He's getting in easily.
For one game, I would take Romo. But Eli has a much better career
The NFL isn't a 1 man show. It's really hard for good players to have good careers if they're consistently on a bad team. Eli was consistently propped up by Defense and a strong run game for most of his career (and especially during his super bowl runs). Romo never had a 1,000 rusher until Demarco Murray and I'd be shocked if the Cowboys ever fielded a top 10 overall defense during his tenure as well.BMX Bandit said:
Eli will end his career possibly top5 in TD passes. He's getting in easily.
For one game, I would take Romo. But Eli has a much better career
Either way, the point remains that Romo, as an individual QB talent, surpasses Eli (IMO). I would contend that if the two swapped franchises, Romo would be the one waltzing into the HoF. Unfortunately there's no way to prove that and I understand it. I'm just explaining my bitterness as to Tony's certain exclusion from Canton (and it's entirely due to Eli's (mis) perception as a better QB).
I'd say the opposite. I can't stand Eli, but there are games where he just dominates and blows everyone else of the field. I'd put his peak games against anyone including Brady, his brother or Rodgers. Eli's problem is consistency. He'll have the best game in the NFL that week and then follow it by the worst the next week. He is the ultimate high variance player.Quote:
For one game, I would take Romo. But Eli has a much better career
Romo is much more consistent, especially in the last few years. So if I wanted to a QB for a season I'd take Tony if health wasn't an issue.
For one game and for a season I would take Romo.
For a stupid, annoying playoff run where you barely squeak in I would take Eli.
For a stupid, annoying playoff run where you barely squeak in I would take Eli.
Imagine Romo playing on a team with those Giants defenses that Eli had?
BMX Bandit said:
Gifford may be closest you'll find. But he was 6 time all pro. That's damn close to warrant HoF based just on just playing.
Elliott will have more rushing yards than Gifford before his rookie contract is up.
He was a darling of the league playing in the biggest market.
I believe there are guys that jump other deserving nominees because they stay in the spotlight.
My point was another year playing isn't going to make a difference unless he wins it all which wasn't going to happen.
Get in the booth and you might slip in on a down year.
Gifford is not in for just being a running back. No idea what the Elliot comment means
I don't disagree with any of that.
Frank Gifford was an 8 time Pro Bowler, won an MVP, and a championship. Trying to make some comparison between him and Zeke Elliott based on stats is like trying to compare Trayveon Williams' 1000 yards this year to John David Crow's Heisman-winning 560 yards.
He played the same era as Jim Brown.
He benefited from having the worlds greatest offensive coordinator & defensive coordinator... coming in as a golden boy in New York... being on TV.
He benefited from having the worlds greatest offensive coordinator & defensive coordinator... coming in as a golden boy in New York... being on TV.
I think he had a top 10 in '09. Only year to my recollection. Could be wrong on that. But remember it as the best defense he's had. Won a playoff game, smoked the Eagles back to back, last game of the regular season and the playoff game, including a shut out IIRC. Got bounced by Jared Allen. God he was dominant that game.
Just more proof that most years had to do more with less, defensively anyways.
Just more proof that most years had to do more with less, defensively anyways.
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