GoFundMe for Karmelo Anthony

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aggiehawg said:



Death penalty likely off the table but charged as an adult with first degree murder.
I don't know about the veracity of that source.

Reports are he was moved from the 'mansion' to an undisclosed location after the address of their rental was doxxed.
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That wouid be break neck pace for a murder charge!

There's nothing unusual about the time table here.

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That wouid be break neck pace for a murder charge!
Why is it that a murder charge would take any longer than any other criminal charge? Especially when it's straightforward like Ms. Hawg stated. Explain it to me like I'm a 5 year old.
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aggiehawg said:

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He doesn't have to be "charged as an adult" that was never in question. He is an adult.
There still is a difference between 17 and 18. Not only death penalty off the table but so is life without parole.
It isn't a capital murder case anyway so neither were ever on the table.
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agent-maroon said:

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That wouid be break neck pace for a murder charge!
Why is it that a murder charge would take any longer than any other criminal charge? Especially when it's straightforward like Ms. Hawg stated. Explain it to me like I'm a 5 year old.
Anybody? Sincerely ignorant as to how this can be. Please educate me TIA
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DAs work on their time schedule. If they wish to be expeditious, they can be. If they do not feel a sense of urgency (since Anthony is out on bail) they won't.

So don't ask me why they haven't brought this before one of the standing grand juries they have in the county. Now those grand juries may be close to fulfilling the current term, and new ones selected and that would explain in part a needed delay.
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agent-maroon said:

agent-maroon said:

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That wouid be break neck pace for a murder charge!
Why is it that a murder charge would take any longer than any other criminal charge? Especially when it's straightforward like Ms. Hawg stated. Explain it to me like I'm a 5 year old.
Anybody? Sincerely ignorant as to how this can be. Please educate me TIA


It's a more serious charge with certain mens rea to be eatablished. You want to make sure you get it right. Here, with the publicity of the story, it's even more important. They will want it interview every witness to put together the tightest cleanest grand jury presentation. They don't just run in Willy Nilly because it's an "easy" case.

And here specifically there is no clock they are up against to indict. They don't have to push this in front of other cases with the grand jury

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And here specifically there is no clock they are up against to indict. They don't have to push this in front of other cases with the grand jury
They going to tell that to the family and friends? Nearly 40 witnesses?
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Tell them what? That he has been arrested and charged and will face trial? He will be indicted within 90 days of the crime. There is nothing remotely slow about that.

The reason to push a case quickly is so you don't have the perp out on a PR bond. Anthony is already out.

You are trying to create controversy where none exists.

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Im Gipper said:

Tell them what? That he has been arrested and charged and will face trial? He will be indicted within 90 days of the crime. There is nothing remotely slow about that.

The reason to push a case quickly is so you don't have the perp out on a PR bond. Anthony is already out.

You are trying to create controversy where none exists.
I don't think she's trying to 'create controversy', she's just expressing frustration at the slowness of the system.

Granted, this happened April 2, so two months haven't passed yet. I think it just seems longer in people's minds - and they don't want a murderer on the loose, even if he is 'under house arrest'.
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I don't think she's trying to 'create controversy', she's just expressing frustration at the slowness of the system.
Exactly. If the DAs wanted this case to proceed, they would do so.
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Im Gipper said:

Tell them what? That he has been arrested and charged and will face trial? He will be indicted within 90 days of the crime. There is nothing remotely slow about that.

The reason to push a case quickly is so you don't have the perp out on a PR bond. Anthony is already out.

You are trying to create controversy where none exists.


This is correct. No reason to rush.
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All of that money needs to be forced into an escrow account and controlled. That money will be required to pay for the judgement against him to the victims family.
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FatZilla said:

All of that money needs to be forced into an escrow account and controlled. That money will be required to pay for the judgement against him to the victims family.


Outside of the legislature passing a law, there is no way to force that.
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This is of no surprise to anyone.

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So much for self defense. That's gone.
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Was it ever really there?

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Now they'll switch to the claim that Metcalf used the "N" word.

Anthony was so triggered he couldn't control himself.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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There is zero chance Anthony wasn't involved in the escalation, which will block any self defense claim anyway.

You aren't allowed to be even partially responsible for the altercation and then claim self defense successfully.
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FrioAg 00 said:

There is zero chance Anthony wasn't involved in the escalation, which will block any self defense claim anyway.

You aren't allowed to be even partially responsible for the altercation and then claim self defense successfully.
Technically, one can reestablish a self defense claim after starting a confrontation but they have to totally disengage first and the other person then becomes the aggressor. But that's pretty rare for it to be successful. Easier in some jurisdictions than others, though.
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FrioAg 00 said:

There is zero chance Anthony wasn't involved in the escalation, which will block any self defense claim anyway.

You aren't allowed to be even partially responsible for the altercation and then claim self defense successfully.
eyewitness testimony from those in close proximity that could watch/hear will be important to prove self-defense, as it sounds like the video will be neutral, at best, for Anthony.
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Rapier108 said:

Now they'll switch to the claim that Metcalf used the "N" word.

Anthony was so triggered he couldn't control himself.


I heard they are gonna say racist notes were taped to Anthony's windshield.
CNN is an enemy of the state and should be treated as such.
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aggiehawg said:

FrioAg 00 said:

There is zero chance Anthony wasn't involved in the escalation, which will block any self defense claim anyway.

You aren't allowed to be even partially responsible for the altercation and then claim self defense successfully.
Technically, one can reestablish a self defense claim after starting a confrontation but they have to totally disengage first and the other person then becomes the aggressor. But that's pretty rare for it to be successful. Easier in some jurisdictions than others, though.



Ok, technically, but it sounds like the evidence suggests there was no physical confrontation at all, let alone two distinct sets of action.

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So the GoFundMe was a complete farce and money grab for a murderer and family. Smeared a grieving family, community and most importantly the murdered kid to get it. Just unbelievably shameless and they do it every single time.
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I think that the important thing here is that Karnel's family has a new big ol' home and new cars via the go-fund-me app.

Their son may go to the big-house, but they livin' large.
"Green" is the new RED.
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Such use likely results in the GoFundMe proceeds being taxable income. His parents may be joining him down the road for tax evasion. No way they think they owe taxes on them funds, but they most certainly let will.
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FrioAg 00 said:

aggiehawg said:

FrioAg 00 said:

There is zero chance Anthony wasn't involved in the escalation, which will block any self defense claim anyway.

You aren't allowed to be even partially responsible for the altercation and then claim self defense successfully.
Technically, one can reestablish a self defense claim after starting a confrontation but they have to totally disengage first and the other person then becomes the aggressor. But that's pretty rare for it to be successful. Easier in some jurisdictions than others, though.



Ok, technically, but it sounds like the evidence suggests there was no physical confrontation at all, let alone two distinct sets of action.


That is how it appears right now.
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The Anthony family is completely devoid of character and honor.



It must be an absolutely miserable way to go through life.
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BenFiasco14 said:

Rapier108 said:

Now they'll switch to the claim that Metcalf used the "N" word.

Anthony was so triggered he couldn't control himself.


I heard they are gonna say racist notes were taped to Anthony's windshield.

Five.bucks says the note said "No Blacks at my PWTM"

Which is, of course, how all white people describe things that are theirs…such as Primarily White Institution.

Aaaaand…Sharp still owes us.
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Rebel Yell said:

The Anthony family is completely devoid of character and honor.



It must be an absolutely miserable way to go through life.
It's become the lottery to blame whitey or the people they kill or the people that kill them while they're trying to kill someone.

edit: Oh, he didn't do nothing, this is America, he can go where ever he wants, take what he wants and if a WT says something, that's aggression and because black people are apparently oppressed in America, he was completely in bounds.
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Local news (WFAA Dallas) reports that Anthony has officially been indicted on a murder charge by the grand jury, punishable by 5-99 years in prison.

Let the chaos commence….
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normalhorn said:

Local news (WFAA Dallas) reports that Anthony has officially been indicted on a murder charge by the grand jury, punishable by 5-99 years in prison.

Let the chaos commence….
pretty sure that was expected.
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Cougar11 said:

normalhorn said:

Local news (WFAA Dallas) reports that Anthony has officially been indicted on a murder charge by the grand jury, punishable by 5-99 years in prison.

Let the chaos commence….
pretty sure that was expected.
It'll be a mostly peaceful looting and rioting event
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normalhorn said:

Local news (WFAA Dallas) reports that Anthony has officially been indicted on a murder charge by the grand jury, punishable by 5-99 years in prison.

Let the chaos commence….


Should be execution
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So if the defendant is found not-guilty, will Frisco burn itself down to the ground or will they have more a 90% more chance for more hatred against democrats?
 
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