Zelenskyy live on Fox News now.
Won't answer question: Do you owe Trump an apology?
Won't answer question: Do you owe Trump an apology?
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Zelenskys in front of the cameras again and refuses to acknowledge he fouled up earlier.
Good Zellenskyy!!! Did I get that right?45-70Ag said:
Zelenskys in front of the cameras again and refuses to acknowledge he fouled up earlier.
Zelensky said we're partners. We aren't partners, if he thinks that Trump should cut off all aide now.
He's really missing a chance to fall on his sword here with a humble mea culpa…
If there's more than three options, not sure what they are.
He can go it alone
We send in troops
He accepts the ceasefire
He can go it alone
We send in troops
He accepts the ceasefire
What ceasefire? Russia hasn't agreed to any ceasefire either.
He's obviously got to be removed from office.FireAg said:
He's really missing a chance to fall on his sword here with a humble mea culpa…
nortex97 said:He's obviously got to be removed from office.FireAg said:
He's really missing a chance to fall on his sword here with a humble mea culpa…
Sure looks that way, unfortunately…
rootube said:AgGrad99 said:Nothing?Quote:
I'm not saying we are entitled to give them anything. People are attacking Zelenskyy for rejecting a deal that gives him nothing.
Right now he has nothing. With us going to the negotiating table on his behalf...he has at least some sort of leverage. But we're not going to do that for free any longer...and that's what he hates. He doesnt like that he'd be paying us, instead of us paying him (like we've done).
Without us he has zero leverage. WIth us he gains continued support, rebuilding efforts and leverage at the table with Russia. Everyone recognizes that. His own government knows it, which is why they are freaking out right now.
We explicitly said no more aid and no security guarantees. Right now Zelenskyy has a stalemate in the east of his country he probably made a bet that a better partner who is willing to provide guarantees is Europe. Time will tell if he is making the right decision or a horrible mistake.
You should watch the entire 45 minutes from today. This was addressed, and was not nothing.
spot on. trump and magaworld have been telegraphing for years that they support russia in this conflict. zelenskyy knows this and used this meeting as an opportunity to publicly defy the authoritarian axis trump and putin belong and to drum up support from the rest of the world.amercer said:
Trump wanted a public ass kissing and didn't get it. This makes Trump mad mad, and his pool boy JD has to play along.
But make no mistake, all politics is local. Zelensky knows Trump isn't going to help, so why kiss his ass when you could stand up to him for the folks back home?
FireAg said:
He's really missing a chance to fall on his sword here with a humble mea culpa…
So he's gonna admit publicly that his poor conduct today was on account of his excessive use of cocaine?!?!
It's no secret; Tucker Carlson even mentioned it, likely unafraid of a libel lawsuit, as there's videos of Zelensky clearly geeked out of his mind!
LOL, Zellenskyy basically off'd himelf today, but carry on.Old McDonald said:spot on. trump and magaworld have been telegraphing for years that they support russia in this conflict. zelenskyy knows this and used this meeting as an opportunity to publicly defy the authoritarian axis trump and putin belong and to drum up support from the rest of the world.amercer said:
Trump wanted a public ass kissing and didn't get it. This makes Trump mad mad, and his pool boy JD has to play along.
But make no mistake, all politics is local. Zelensky knows Trump isn't going to help, so why kiss his ass when you could stand up to him for the folks back home?
Zelensky doesn't want any kind of legitimate peace. Europe isn't worried about this clown show because they know Putin wants a buffer between them and nato.
But that's a European problem, Europe, zelensky and Putin should solve that. The U.S. has no business providing weapons to continue the pointless war.
But that's a European problem, Europe, zelensky and Putin should solve that. The U.S. has no business providing weapons to continue the pointless war.
Well Trump let the staff eat the dinner prepared for Zelensky so they ate good
“ How you fellas doin? We about to have us a little screw party in this red Prius over here if you wanna join us.”
🚨 #BREAKING: Zelensky refuses MULTIPLE TIMES to apologize to President Trump after disrespecting him and our country in the Oval Office
— Nick Sortor (@nicksortor) February 28, 2025
GO HOME, Zelensky.
Your time is over. We're done with you. pic.twitter.com/GMvrYMcqu5
Screw him
Old McDonald said:spot on. trump and magaworld have been telegraphing for years that they support russia in this conflict. zelenskyy knows this and used this meeting as an opportunity to publicly defy the authoritarian axis trump and putin belong and to drum up support from the rest of the world.amercer said:
Trump wanted a public ass kissing and didn't get it. This makes Trump mad mad, and his pool boy JD has to play along.
But make no mistake, all politics is local. Zelensky knows Trump isn't going to help, so why kiss his ass when you could stand up to him for the folks back home?
Cool. Hope that works out for him.
My initial reaction to the Trump/Zelensky spat was based on the short clip. I've had a chance to watch the entire 53-minute press conference with Zelensky and Trump.
— Konstantin Kisin (@KonstantinKisin) February 28, 2025
It's painful but I take back what I said earlier. Zelensky decided to attack Vance unnecessarily. He totally…
Context of watching the whole event makes a lot of difference. The short clips going around X don't do it justice.
"No more money, *****...and also give us your valuable minerals and shut the **** up."BadMoonRisin said:
Go get your shinebox, Mr Bean.
Sent this little pint-sized panty waste back to his eastern euro ****hole.
No more money, *****...and also give us your valuable minerals and shut the **** up
Sadly, this is what Trump meant. Anyone who has been in business knows both sides of a negotiation need to feel they received value for what they are giving up. Trump wanted rare earth minerals and Zelinsky wanted protection from Russia. The protection from Russia was not in the contract. Trump offered very little for the 1/2 Trillion of minerals.
He keeps calling the U.S. his partner in this. We aren't partners
Ukraine isn't a position of strength. We don't have to have a deal. They do. They are the short stack at the table and they don't realize it.
Goodagmeister said:"No more money, *****...and also give us your valuable minerals and shut the **** up."BadMoonRisin said:
Go get your shinebox, Mr Bean.
Sent this little pint-sized panty waste back to his eastern euro ****hole.
No more money, *****...and also give us your valuable minerals and shut the **** up
Sadly, this is what Trump meant. Anyone who has been in business knows both sides of a negotiation need to feel they received value for what they are giving up. Trump wanted rare earth minerals and Zelinsky wanted protection from Russia. The protection from Russia was not in the contract. Trump offered very little for the 1/2 Trillion of minerals.
backintexas2013 said:
Ukraine isn't a position of strength. We don't have to have a deal. They do. They are the short stack at the table and they don't realize it.
Ukraine doesn't really need our aid at this point which is why I'm not particularly interested if we pull it at this point. Russia simply doesn't have the ability to do much more at this point. Especially with modern drone warfare.
Expel their ambassador
Cut off weapon shipments
Tell zelensky he's on his own
Cut off weapon shipments
Tell zelensky he's on his own
Look, I'm all for sticking it to Russia. A weaker Russia is better for the US (and, a western controlled world… that's the real point).
But I have no idea why Z drifted into that spat with Trump. All he had to do was kiss his azz, blow some smoke, and boom, billions more in aid.
But I have no idea why Z drifted into that spat with Trump. All he had to do was kiss his azz, blow some smoke, and boom, billions more in aid.
We are not going to force our mod team to sit on a thread all weekend in order to try and keep it from being derailed with personal attacks and trolling of fellow users. We understand this is a contentious issue. This thread is the same stuff we've had to deal with since 2022 on two different threads covering the Ukraine/Russia war and the geopolitical debate on it. We will start locking all of the threads down and handing out mass bans to anyone restarting threads if all of you can't pull it together and be able to debate this topic without the personal attacks and trolling. This is an important news story. We want it discussed on here, but not like this.
Tex117 said:
Look, I'm all for sticking it to Russia. A weaker Russia is better for the US (and, a western controlled world… that's the real point).
But I have no idea why Z drifted into that spat with Trump. All he had to do was kiss his azz, blow some smoke, and boom, billions more in aid.
It's called little man syndrome
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Andddd we are back
My only complaint is this shouldn't happen in front of the cameras. This kind of heated exchange has been common forever among leaders of nations, but it needs to happen behind closed doors.
FIFY.mallen said:
Zelensky is aherogrifter. Trump and Vance are imbeciles.
And will be running out of funds though I expect he will capitulate soon enough.
PA24 said:
It appears Trump will end military equipment to Ukraine because
Europe making a move for the minerals, which is pretty damn low.
Unconfirmed but I read it somewhere.
We wanted Europe to take care of Europe's problems. If Europe offers lethal for those minerals then it's a better deal for Ukraine.
I guess the Trump and Z bromance never panned out like we were all lectured it would be.
Infection_Ag11 said:
My only complaint is this shouldn't happen in front of the cameras. This kind of heated exchange has been common forever among leaders of nations, but it needs to happen behind closed doors.
At first I agree with you. However, Trump knows the media would have lied about the exchange. So I believe he wanted the American people to see the truth of what we are dealing with. Because the media would have not been honest.
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