Ron DeSantis Suspends Campaign

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Ag with kids said:

Grapesoda2525 said:


Remember...the Lincoln Project was started as a "Republican" project to prevent Trump from being elected.

Of course, it was really a left wing project disguised that way and as time goes on, they show their true colors more and more.
Strange, Trump folks have been saying that DeSantis was really a Lincoln Project plant all along. Just one more lie lost in the pile with the rest.
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Foreverconservative said:

El Gallo Blanco said:

Old McDonald said:

rose to prominence fighting covid lockdowns, then meandered through ill-advised culture war slap fights when there were no more covid lockdowns to fight. not to mention the much more charismatic orange elephant in the room. he was doomed from the start.


Removing gay cartoon porn from grade schools and banning harmful divisive CRT from classrooms (among many other things) is real action…not slap fighting. We don't want our children to grow up in this warped perverted unrecognizable society that you and your peers want them to. Sorry.
Thanks for playing




Holy **** that's great
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aggie93 said:

Ag with kids said:

Grapesoda2525 said:


Remember...the Lincoln Project was started as a "Republican" project to prevent Trump from being elected.

Of course, it was really a left wing project disguised that way and as time goes on, they show their true colors more and more.
Strange, Trump folks have been saying that DeSantis was really a Lincoln Project plant all along. Just one more lie lost in the pile with the rest.
What's the saying around here? Grow a pear. Yeah do that.
Here's some ol' timey whataboutism.


Jefferson's camp accused President Adams of having a "hideous hermaphroditical character, which has neither the force and firmness of a man, nor the gentleness and sensibility of a woman."

In return, Adams' men called Vice President Jefferson "a mean-spirited, low-lived fellow, the son of a half-breed Indian squaw, sired by a Virginia mulatto father."

As the slurs piled on, Adams was labeled a fool, a hypocrite, a criminal, and a tyrant, while Jefferson was branded a weakling, an atheist, a libertine, and a coward.

Even Martha Washington succumbed to the propaganda, telling a clergyman that Jefferson was "one of the most detestable of mankind."
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FireAg said:

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It doesn't work like that. DeSantis would be the candidate most likely to unify all sections of the GOP because he is the most acceptable to all parts of the GOP. Very, very few people in the GOP hate him and would never vote for him unlike Trump or Haley. He also would absolutely crossover with Suburban voters and Catholics which end up deciding General Elections because he is one.

He couldn't win because the Establishment and Con Media opposed him as they liked their candidates better and ignored the one guy that was likely to bring everyone together.
THIS!


"Likely" is a hard sell when the guy you're defending dropped all of his time and resources into one state, and he couldn't win a single county…

99 counties visited, and over 3M doors knocked on…

He lost all 99 counties…
DeSantis has favorables almost as high as Trump, he just couldn't beat Trump but it's pretty clear no one could at this point. Very few Republicans would not vote for him. If he had the Party's backing and Con Media actually pushing him instead of talking about his heels or something he fixes the rest very quickly. He's the only one that is at least acceptable to everyone within the Party though some of the Neocons and some of the folks with a picture of Trump as Jesus might not vote for him. He more than makes up that picking up Catholics and Independents though, some people just like good governance and don't care about policy. It's literally impossible to argue about his competence and he's a low drama guy, that's very attractive to Suburban types.

Trump has a solid minority that despises him and will never vote for him again. Haley would likely win but it would be because of Democrats and Indies because she is a RINO.
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Foreverconservative said:

El Gallo Blanco said:

Old McDonald said:

rose to prominence fighting covid lockdowns, then meandered through ill-advised culture war slap fights when there were no more covid lockdowns to fight. not to mention the much more charismatic orange elephant in the room. he was doomed from the start.


Removing gay cartoon porn from grade schools and banning harmful divisive CRT from classrooms (among many other things) is real action…not slap fighting. We don't want our children to grow up in this warped perverted unrecognizable society that you and your peers want them to. Sorry.
Thanks for playing


Exactly the kind of juvenile look-at-me-ism we've come to expect from MAGA. But congrats on your "pwned" I guess
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Pretty staggering fall for a guy that the majority of posters here had anointed as Don's successor.

Out after one state and ~100k votes counted. Woof.

You are just revealing your narrow mindedness with this statement.

Desantis is the only real candidate in the field that is in agreement with Trump policies without the baggage of being hated by a significant part of the electorate. Once Trump decided to run and not back Desantis, it was going to be an impossible hill for RD to climb. There is a cult following for Trump, and it is significant, without a doubt, However whether MAGA can win this election is questionable.

So I am not surprised that RD did not win a county because they are going to vote for Trump over Desantis. However, I have little doubt that Desantis would walk away with the Repub nomination and the presidency, if Trump would of simply backed him and he would be an outstanding president and would very much carry on and implement MAGA policies and probably do so better than Trump.

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It's what stupid people do. They get wound up and say stupid stuff. TDS is rampant. People hate on their opponent. Normal procedure is to slice your opponent open than endorse the winner after they cut you. Nothing new.
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Waffledynamics said:

It was all bull**** sycophantism, like anyone with half a brain knew.



If Trump supporters will not admit what happened, what they did, and what Trump's lies and failures are, I cannot in good faith support the same candidate they do. This is absurdism to its highest in this election cycle.


What are you even talking about?
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dixichkn said:

Foreverconservative said:

El Gallo Blanco said:

Old McDonald said:

rose to prominence fighting covid lockdowns, then meandered through ill-advised culture war slap fights when there were no more covid lockdowns to fight. not to mention the much more charismatic orange elephant in the room. he was doomed from the start.


Removing gay cartoon porn from grade schools and banning harmful divisive CRT from classrooms (among many other things) is real action…not slap fighting. We don't want our children to grow up in this warped perverted unrecognizable society that you and your peers want them to. Sorry.
Thanks for playing


Exactly the kind of juvenile look-at-me-ism we've come to expect from MAGA. But congrats on your "pwned" I guess


The discourse for the last several years had just been about "owning the other side. And that's where we are at now
hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. good times create weak men. and weak men create hard times.

less virtue signaling, more vice signaling.

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Been out of pocket with no cell service all weekend and just heard the news and caught up on this thread.

It's tough not to be disappointed and frustrated at DeSantis dropping out. I had hoped he would see it through to the convention, but understand his decision.

Mostly I'm sad for Republicans, and even more for America at the opportunity lost. Ron DeSantis would be a generational president. I pray he feels led to try again in 2028.

As things stand, I'll support Trump knowing this country cannot risk four more years of Democrat control, but I'm pessimistic he can win the general given his alienation of independents and more importantly many Republicans.

Republicans have decided to roll the dice with Trump again. I'm afraid it's a really bad bet.
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Tom Kazansky 2012 said:

Waffledynamics said:

It was all bull**** sycophantism, like anyone with half a brain knew.



If Trump supporters will not admit what happened, what they did, and what Trump's lies and failures are, I cannot in good faith support the same candidate they do. This is absurdism to its highest in this election cycle.


What are you even talking about?
You know damn well what I'm talking about.
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No i really Dont.
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The way some Desantis supporters sound, I don't think they'll be voting Republican in the general. Trump is the future, whether some like it or not. I do think DeSantis dropped out at a great time to reinforce support behind Trump, so I'll give him that.
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RINO Safari said:

The way some Desantis supporters sound, I don't think they'll be voting Republican in the general. Trump is the future, whether some like it or not. I do think DeSantis dropped out at a great time to reinforce support behind Trump, so I'll give him that.
DeSantis was the most conservative in the race. What are you even talking about? Do you even use logic to come up with this kind of post?

Trump supporters have alienated people. That is on them. You and Trump need to earn the votes back.
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Regardless of what happens in November, Trump is clearly not "the future". He's nearly 80 years old and has, at most, 5 years left as a meaningful figure in American politics. Statistically it's more likely than not that he'll be dead before whoever wins in 2028 finishes their term in office.
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Rapier108 said:

aggie93 said:

Foreverconservative said:

Dept of Education should be dissolved and leave it up to the states to handle their business. DoE is nothing but a money pit with no function other to allow the teachers union become a lobbyist.
DeSantis might have done that, zero chance with Trump. That's what we chose.
Trump wants to expand it.
Yep


Libs gonna lib.
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I like how Desantis suspends his campaign and then immediately endorses Trump. It's amazing how he can do it, but it's a bridge too far for his most ardent supporters on TexAgs. It tells me one of two things; either he is a realist that's holding his nose and doing what's best for him and his country, or he's not as conservative, moral and ethical as his supporters thought. I'm pretty sure it's the former, so I'm hopeful that if he can vote for Trump so can his acolytes.
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jwhaby said:

I like how Desantis suspends his campaign and then immediately endorses Trump. It's amazing how he can do it, but it's a bridge too far for his most ardent supporters on TexAgs. It tells me one of two things; either he is a realist that's holding his nose and doing what's best for him and his country, or he's not as conservative, moral and ethical as his supporters thought. I'm pretty sure it's the former, so I'm hopeful that if he can vote for Trump so can his acolytes.
Option C: it makes no sense to alienate future potential support.

DeSantis is the real deal. He has actual policy behind him. He's accomplished a lot. His sincerity is not really in question.
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jwhaby said:

I like how Desantis suspends his campaign and then immediately endorses Trump. It's amazing how he can do it, but it's a bridge too far for his most ardent supporters on TexAgs. It tells me one of two things; either he is a realist that's holding his nose and doing what's best for him and his country, or he's not as conservative, moral and ethical as his supporters thought. I'm pretty sure it's the former, so I'm hopeful that if he can vote for Trump so can his acolytes.


It's a pride thing.
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Waffledynamics said:

jwhaby said:

I like how Desantis suspends his campaign and then immediately endorses Trump. It's amazing how he can do it, but it's a bridge too far for his most ardent supporters on TexAgs. It tells me one of two things; either he is a realist that's holding his nose and doing what's best for him and his country, or he's not as conservative, moral and ethical as his supporters thought. I'm pretty sure it's the former, so I'm hopeful that if he can vote for Trump so can his acolytes.
Option C: it makes no sense to alienate future potential support.

DeSantis is the real deal. He has actual policy behind him. He's accomplished a lot. His sincerity is not really in question.


That's really just option A. He's doing what's best for him by not alienating support in the future.

I would personally love to see him serve as Trump's VP and then fill his shoes and take things to another level in 2028. We would miss him as the governor of Florida, but the experience and exposure would be invaluable. Here's to hoping.
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Genuinely depressing for me. Biden is and has been a puppet, Trump is a fraud and a ******bag. Not sure when if ever I'll get to cast a vote for someone who deserves to sit in the Oval Office. Increasingly hard to care.
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Cliff.Booth said:

Genuinely depressing for me. Biden is and has been a puppet, Trump is a fraud and a ******bag. Not sure when if ever I'll get to cast a vote for someone who deserves to sit in the Oval Office. Increasingly hard to care.


We had a chance to run a real candidate. Now our options are two geriatric imbeciles or Haley. We deserve what we get.
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Gunny456 said:

Why slam " the party"???? It's the voters causing this. If the people were behind RD he would not be dropping out. The
Issue is the conservative voters in this country won't quit supporting Trump. The numbers say it all. Does not have anything to do with " the party".



Just like the leftists in this country won't quit hating Trump. Therein lies the truth about Trump that many can't quite seem to grasp.
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Probably the most disappointed I've ever been with conservatives in my lifetime. We had everything we want in a candidate at the perfect time. He's literally everything Republicans have been clamoring for as long as I can remember.
But the MAGA revenge factor from the low info mouth-breathing wing of the Republican party was too much to overcome. I'll hate it when I'm proven right but he will be destroyed in the general. It won't even be close. They won't need to cheat.
MAGA numpties simply cannot comprehend how the average suburban voter in America despises Trump.
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JDL 96 said:

FFFFFFFFFFF.
Unbelievable to me we have such an obvious slam dunk candidate (DeSantis) who dominated in Florida, got Covid right, etc. etc., and the GOP goes with a very damaged 77 year old candidate who was foisted on us by the media and dems.
Big win for the dems.

Emphatic slam dunk win for the dems. Their work is over now. The 2024 election is over.
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I get the sentiment, but was just listening to today's Ted Cruz podcast, and he happened to note in a pretty long discussion how the media gave trump 3billion in 'in kind' free media exposure in 2016, ultimately driving him to the nomination then, as well, thinking he was the easiest for GCF to beat.

It could just happen again, we will have to see, as you and I have no say really in who the nominee is.

I do think Ted Cruz also would have been a great president.
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GAC06 said:

Cliff.Booth said:

Genuinely depressing for me. Biden is and has been a puppet, Trump is a fraud and a ******bag. Not sure when if ever I'll get to cast a vote for someone who deserves to sit in the Oval Office. Increasingly hard to care.


We had a chance to run a real candidate. Now our options are two geriatric imbeciles or Haley. We deserve what we get.
But, but….the boots. The charisma factor. Focus on the important things here.

Oh well. Back to voting AGAINST someone (the Potato) rather than FOR someone, as you mentioned
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Bryanisbest said:

Gunny456 said:

Why slam " the party"???? It's the voters causing this. If the people were behind RD he would not be dropping out. The
Issue is the conservative voters in this country won't quit supporting Trump. The numbers say it all. Does not have anything to do with " the party".



Just like the leftists in this country won't quit hating Trump. Therein lies the truth about Trump that many can't quite seem to grasp.


Why can't Right do what the Left does and vote for their candidate regardless? I doubt the Bernie Bros. wanted Biden last time around, but they swallowed their nose and voted for him once he won the primary.

I'm tired of all the whining about "I wish our voter base wasn't so stupid; we had the perfect candidate in Desantis". Well, wish in one hand and **** in the other tell me which one fills up first. The time for wishing is over. Now it's time to do what is best for the Republican Party. And don't tell me it can't be done, because the Democrats did it just last year.
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DeSantis used a fake quote attributed to Winston Churchill to announce the end of his campaign. So very fitting for this giant intellect among men.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/desantis-churchill-quote-b2482565.html?fbclid=IwAR35woUbPrnvlz7j6gitFtGhgn8VxVTNpxEkglLoe2g43GLNHt1rxTxgNKQ
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jwhaby said:

Bryanisbest said:

Gunny456 said:

Why slam " the party"???? It's the voters causing this. If the people were behind RD he would not be dropping out. The
Issue is the conservative voters in this country won't quit supporting Trump. The numbers say it all. Does not have anything to do with " the party".



Just like the leftists in this country won't quit hating Trump. Therein lies the truth about Trump that many can't quite seem to grasp.


Why can't Right do what the Left does and vote for their candidate regardless? I doubt the Bernie Bros. wanted Biden last time around, but they swallowed their nose and voted for him once he won the primary.

I'm tired of all the whining about "I wish our voter base wasn't so stupid; we had the perfect candidate in Desantis". Well, wish in one hand and **** in the other tell me which one fills up first. The time for wishing is over. Now it's time to do what is best for the Republican Party. And don't tell me it can't be done, because the Democrats did it just last year.
Most of the right will. It is about 12 posters who make up 40% of the posting volume on this forum who claim to be DeSantis or bust. They are a novelty in the real world.
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I hope so. They just seem so broken by Trump that I'm not sure they're rational enough to do what needs to be done.
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shiftyandquick said:

DeSantis used a fake quote attributed to Winston Churchill to announce the end of his campaign. So very fitting for this giant intellect among men.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/desantis-churchill-quote-b2482565.html?fbclid=IwAR35woUbPrnvlz7j6gitFtGhgn8VxVTNpxEkglLoe2g43GLNHt1rxTxgNKQ


Got him. He's 10x the candidate of anyone you've ever supported.
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Old May Banker said:

TAMUallen said:

Rockdoc said:

Did something happen today other than DeSsntis suspending? There are people losing their minds on here.


My guess is it is a bunch of liberals and "moderates" who have been playing as DeSantis fans. Trump is their kryptonite and they fall apart thinking it will be him again.

Ahhhh... yes. If you don't love dear leader, you're a CM, RINO, Liberal, blah blah blah.

I've already said I'll hold my nose and vote for him. But me pretending that geriatric buffoon is the best this country has to offer will not happen.
I won't. I will vote 3rd party like I did in 2020.

On the phone yesterday with my best friend driving back from west Texas, I said, "I can't believe that MAGA is so blind to turn the country to the Dems again." If Trump wins the nomination, you'll have low turnout because the folks like me, you know..the CMs and RINOS as we get labeled, will just stay home. They will allow Ted Cruz to almost get beat because they are so apathetic to Trump. And that's what the true issue with Trump is...is all the down-ballot races that this is going to impact.

Haley beats Biden. Trump doesn't. But MAGA wants to own the libs. Even though Trump is a lib.
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You happen to agree with this guy.

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Some of these TDS'rs remarks are hysterical.
 
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