Man the tears are flowing on the TexAgs
911sAg said:Do you understand that if Desantis couldn't persuade gop voters he wasn't getting the crossover vote?BenFiasco14 said:911sAg said:how can you say that if he can't even win a primary?Quote:
Regardless, Biden and the Dems could not be happier because DeSantis was the biggest threat to Biden getting a second term.
Do you not understand the difference between republican primary voters in Iowa versus the general do election where everyone votes?
Yes many RD supporters on here, I am one of them and he has a bright future in 2028 but he was smart to drop out now in 2nd place. He would be third place after the New Hampshire primary.MookieBlaylock said:
Man the tears are flowing on the TexAgs
Ok so Ron doesn't appeal to GOP voters but he will swing voters? ok dudeBenFiasco14 said:911sAg said:Do you understand that if Desantis couldn't persuade gop voters he wasn't getting the crossover vote?BenFiasco14 said:911sAg said:how can you say that if he can't even win a primary?Quote:
Regardless, Biden and the Dems could not be happier because DeSantis was the biggest threat to Biden getting a second term.
Do you not understand the difference between republican primary voters in Iowa versus the general do election where everyone votes?
No, I don't because that's completely illogical. Persuading a MAGA wing is nowhere near the same as peeling off true swing voters.
911sAg said:Ok so Ron doesn't appeal to GOP voters but he will swing voters? ok dudeBenFiasco14 said:911sAg said:Do you understand that if Desantis couldn't persuade gop voters he wasn't getting the crossover vote?BenFiasco14 said:911sAg said:how can you say that if he can't even win a primary?Quote:
Regardless, Biden and the Dems could not be happier because DeSantis was the biggest threat to Biden getting a second term.
Do you not understand the difference between republican primary voters in Iowa versus the general do election where everyone votes?
No, I don't because that's completely illogical. Persuading a MAGA wing is nowhere near the same as peeling off true swing voters.
BigRobSA said:No Spin Ag said:It'll be one of many ads the left can use, and all they need to do is use his own words and social media posts. At which time, Trump can either say he was lying, didn't mean it, or did mean it then but changed his mind. All of which won't help him outside of his maga.Ag with kids said:Trump is already backing off of retribution.No Spin Ag said:As long as Trump acts like "I am your retribution." and mean tweets, that's all maga cares about. That Trump will get nothing accomplished doesn't matter; they'll have the "win" they wanted - even if, in the real world, that "win" accomplishes literally nothing of consequence.Gunny456 said:
It won't matter a damn if Trump wins if the Republicans don't get a SOLID majority in both house and senate. A majority of 3-4 seats in the house and 1-2 in the senate accomplishes little in reality due to rhinos. Must be substantial in both or Trump will be nothing more than a broken wing, shot up, lame duck….. spending all his time fighting impeachments and law suits and accomplish little.
Hope folks realize that.
But he said it before so it is beyond contestation now.
I foresee another class on magnets in our future.
The Democrats indicted his primary opponent four times in four different jurisdictions in a little over four months https://t.co/k1PfbxXfN0
— Will Chamberlain (@willchamberlain) January 21, 2024
lol I saw my candidate win a presidential election in 2016 and you? I also know the coveted swing vote is not really that big and is generally overstated, most people know who they are voting when they walk in the booth.J. Walter Weatherman said:911sAg said:Ok so Ron doesn't appeal to GOP voters but he will swing voters? ok dudeBenFiasco14 said:911sAg said:Do you understand that if Desantis couldn't persuade gop voters he wasn't getting the crossover vote?BenFiasco14 said:911sAg said:how can you say that if he can't even win a primary?Quote:
Regardless, Biden and the Dems could not be happier because DeSantis was the biggest threat to Biden getting a second term.
Do you not understand the difference between republican primary voters in Iowa versus the general do election where everyone votes?
No, I don't because that's completely illogical. Persuading a MAGA wing is nowhere near the same as peeling off true swing voters.
I know Trumpers are new to this whole politics thing, but you do understand those are two different populations right?
911sAg said:lol I saw my candidate win a presidential election in 2016 and you? I also know the coveted swing vote is not really that big and is generally overstated, most people know who they are voting when they walk in the booth.J. Walter Weatherman said:911sAg said:Ok so Ron doesn't appeal to GOP voters but he will swing voters? ok dudeBenFiasco14 said:911sAg said:Do you understand that if Desantis couldn't persuade gop voters he wasn't getting the crossover vote?BenFiasco14 said:911sAg said:how can you say that if he can't even win a primary?Quote:
Regardless, Biden and the Dems could not be happier because DeSantis was the biggest threat to Biden getting a second term.
Do you not understand the difference between republican primary voters in Iowa versus the general do election where everyone votes?
No, I don't because that's completely illogical. Persuading a MAGA wing is nowhere near the same as peeling off true swing voters.
I know Trumpers are new to this whole politics thing, but you do understand those are two different populations right?
Explain, for us Trumpers, how the most conservative candidate is going to be more appealing to moderates then a moderate candidate (Trump or Haley)?J. Walter Weatherman said:911sAg said:Ok so Ron doesn't appeal to GOP voters but he will swing voters? ok dudeBenFiasco14 said:911sAg said:Do you understand that if Desantis couldn't persuade gop voters he wasn't getting the crossover vote?BenFiasco14 said:911sAg said:how can you say that if he can't even win a primary?Quote:
Regardless, Biden and the Dems could not be happier because DeSantis was the biggest threat to Biden getting a second term.
Do you not understand the difference between republican primary voters in Iowa versus the general do election where everyone votes?
No, I don't because that's completely illogical. Persuading a MAGA wing is nowhere near the same as peeling off true swing voters.
I know Trumpers are new to this whole politics thing, but you do understand those are two different populations right?
This is for you.Grapesoda2525 said:
Ron Desantis should be forced to carry his presidential campaign to term.
Quote:
Ron DeSantis said he thinks the federal law criminalizing gun possession by marijuana consumers is unconstitutional.
"If somebody's using…a legal product, there's not anything in the Constitution that would justify doing that."
He appeals to GOP voters immensely, it's just bad timing. Some of us recognize that there's a culture war to be won first and Trump is better suited to fight it. Once the culture war is won, policy masters such as DeSantis will be needed more. Having DeSantis over the Senate (VP) makes Trump/DeSantis a dream team.911sAg said:Ok so Ron doesn't appeal to GOP voters but he will swing voters? ok dudeBenFiasco14 said:911sAg said:Do you understand that if Desantis couldn't persuade gop voters he wasn't getting the crossover vote?BenFiasco14 said:911sAg said:how can you say that if he can't even win a primary?Quote:
Regardless, Biden and the Dems could not be happier because DeSantis was the biggest threat to Biden getting a second term.
Do you not understand the difference between republican primary voters in Iowa versus the general do election where everyone votes?
No, I don't because that's completely illogical. Persuading a MAGA wing is nowhere near the same as peeling off true swing voters.
BigRobSA said:
Then the GOP should select a conservative, if my vote is important. Since they don't, it obviously isn't that important.
You realize Ron has endorsed Trump right?Deputy Travis Junior said:BigRobSA said:
Then the GOP should select a conservative, if my vote is important. Since they don't, it obviously isn't that important.
No kidding. A material chunk of the party said "man, we can't stomach this guy anymore, but what about this other candidate? Got lots of the traits that you like about Trump + hasn't done most of his dumb liberal *****"
Their response was "**** you guys, we're shoving Trump down your throat again" and now they're acting entitled to our votes. The time to talk vote strategy was a year ago, not after you've foisted a candidate on us who we said we really don't want amd night not support.
No conservative cares what you think.Grapesoda2525 said:
Ron Desantis should be forced to carry his presidential campaign to term.
So Trump will tell Jenner stop using the ladies restroom and go to the men's room where he belongs?Funky Winkerbean said:He appeals to GOP voters immensely, it's just bad timing. Some of us recognize that there's a culture war to be won first and Trump is better suited to fight it. Once the culture war is won, policy masters such as DeSantis will be needed more. Having DeSantis over the Senate (VP) makes Trump/DeSantis a dream team.911sAg said:Ok so Ron doesn't appeal to GOP voters but he will swing voters? ok dudeBenFiasco14 said:911sAg said:Do you understand that if Desantis couldn't persuade gop voters he wasn't getting the crossover vote?BenFiasco14 said:911sAg said:how can you say that if he can't even win a primary?Quote:
Regardless, Biden and the Dems could not be happier because DeSantis was the biggest threat to Biden getting a second term.
Do you not understand the difference between republican primary voters in Iowa versus the general do election where everyone votes?
No, I don't because that's completely illogical. Persuading a MAGA wing is nowhere near the same as peeling off true swing voters.
It is what it is. Move on.MookieBlaylock said:
Man the tears are flowing on the TexAgs
Are you drunk. SeriouslyMookieBlaylock said:
He isn't in 2nd place tho
You mean the most conservative president in your lifetime?J. Walter Weatherman said:911sAg said:lol I saw my candidate win a presidential election in 2016 and you? I also know the coveted swing vote is not really that big and is generally overstated, most people know who they are voting when they walk in the booth.J. Walter Weatherman said:911sAg said:Ok so Ron doesn't appeal to GOP voters but he will swing voters? ok dudeBenFiasco14 said:911sAg said:Do you understand that if Desantis couldn't persuade gop voters he wasn't getting the crossover vote?BenFiasco14 said:911sAg said:how can you say that if he can't even win a primary?Quote:
Regardless, Biden and the Dems could not be happier because DeSantis was the biggest threat to Biden getting a second term.
Do you not understand the difference between republican primary voters in Iowa versus the general do election where everyone votes?
No, I don't because that's completely illogical. Persuading a MAGA wing is nowhere near the same as peeling off true swing voters.
I know Trumpers are new to this whole politics thing, but you do understand those are two different populations right?
Cool. What happened with those swing voters in 2020 after they got 4 years of Trump's clown show?
ttu_85 said:Are you drunk. SeriouslyMookieBlaylock said:
He isn't in 2nd place tho
StandUpforAmerica said:
A message for all the never trumpers who are going to waste a vote by voting third party or by staying home.Primary is over, DeSantis has stated it's going to be #Trump, and I will not pretend I like or admire trump personally.... I really don't. But I will crawl through broken glass to avoid another 4 years of marxism, a stacked Supreme Court, two new forever Democrat states. I… https://t.co/yUii00cBUN
— Christopher Calvin Reid (@ReidFirm) January 21, 2024Quote:
Primary is over, DeSantis has stated it's going to be #Trump, and I will not pretend I like or admire trump personally.... I really don't. But I will crawl through broken glass to avoid another 4 years of marxism, a stacked Supreme Court, two new forever Democrat states. I disagree with any argument about staying home on election day..... this may be the last election day we have a semi constitutional republic. If
@RonDeSantis
can stomach the lies about him, his record, and coalesce behind the Nominee, then that's good enough for me. On a personal note, I have family in the armed forces at this moment and the thought of having Joe biden be the commander in chief for 5 years from today is not worth it to me. My main message is I am very upset about the outcome of this primary.... but I can't stomach kids getting sterilized and getting their genitals mutilated in the name of Trans ideology which biden supports. So I am voting straight ticket GOP in the general. Time will tell who was right about their warnings but I would so much rather be wrong and live in a free country then be right and live under tyranny. Vote
Trump isn't worthy to hold Ronald Reagan's jock.Funky Winkerbean said:You mean the most conservative president in your lifetime?J. Walter Weatherman said:911sAg said:lol I saw my candidate win a presidential election in 2016 and you? I also know the coveted swing vote is not really that big and is generally overstated, most people know who they are voting when they walk in the booth.J. Walter Weatherman said:911sAg said:Ok so Ron doesn't appeal to GOP voters but he will swing voters? ok dudeBenFiasco14 said:911sAg said:Do you understand that if Desantis couldn't persuade gop voters he wasn't getting the crossover vote?BenFiasco14 said:911sAg said:how can you say that if he can't even win a primary?Quote:
Regardless, Biden and the Dems could not be happier because DeSantis was the biggest threat to Biden getting a second term.
Do you not understand the difference between republican primary voters in Iowa versus the general do election where everyone votes?
No, I don't because that's completely illogical. Persuading a MAGA wing is nowhere near the same as peeling off true swing voters.
I know Trumpers are new to this whole politics thing, but you do understand those are two different populations right?
Cool. What happened with those swing voters in 2020 after they got 4 years of Trump's clown show?
So DeSantis should've run on amnesty and deepening the war on drugs for your support? Like Reagan?Rapier108 said:Trump isn't worthy to hold Ronald Reagan's jock.Funky Winkerbean said:You mean the most conservative president in your lifetime?J. Walter Weatherman said:911sAg said:lol I saw my candidate win a presidential election in 2016 and you? I also know the coveted swing vote is not really that big and is generally overstated, most people know who they are voting when they walk in the booth.J. Walter Weatherman said:911sAg said:Ok so Ron doesn't appeal to GOP voters but he will swing voters? ok dudeBenFiasco14 said:911sAg said:Do you understand that if Desantis couldn't persuade gop voters he wasn't getting the crossover vote?BenFiasco14 said:911sAg said:how can you say that if he can't even win a primary?Quote:
Regardless, Biden and the Dems could not be happier because DeSantis was the biggest threat to Biden getting a second term.
Do you not understand the difference between republican primary voters in Iowa versus the general do election where everyone votes?
No, I don't because that's completely illogical. Persuading a MAGA wing is nowhere near the same as peeling off true swing voters.
I know Trumpers are new to this whole politics thing, but you do understand those are two different populations right?
Cool. What happened with those swing voters in 2020 after they got 4 years of Trump's clown show?