But dude what to you feel you have to know? We should blame Trump, Republicans, and all conservatives. This should change votes and change who is in power to lead our country. Why would you require any proof?

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I guess CNN doesn't understand that picture makes people curious about the police reports.

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And I am certain there are multiple still shots of those doors taken from the inside of the house showing where the backpack was and showing perhaps more glass on the inside? Cops or DA could release those stills from the crime scene investigation if they wanted to debunk the question once and for all.

Their assertions of trust us, we are telling you what we think happened, ain't gonna cut it.

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Yep.

The initial press conference said they responded to a wellness check request. You don't call those on yourself. Apparently they showed up with sirens and lights. You don't do that for a wellness check.

He said an unknown person opened the door. Now they're saying that didn't mean a third person, it meant they weren't sure who opened it. Now they say it was Pelosi. Multiple cops with bodycams, and they werent' sure who opened the door? The press conference was long after the attack. They could have easily gotten everything right from the start. There is no "fog of war" type reporting on this.

Somehow an 82 year-old man was able to get to the door and open it for the police, while fighting over a hammer, then suddenly lost the fight for the hammer after the police entered?

I have no idea what happened, but what we're being told seems off.

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Two things:

• For posting that you will be called a conspiracy theorist by the Democratic Party leadership and their minions.
• The police and federal authorities just added to their lack of credibility no matter what happens to be the truth.

Most people just want the truth.

Hawg, I had no idea the Capital Police was immune to FOIA requests.

Does that mean if the Right wins the House and Senate in three days, NO one can obtain ANY information from them whether demanded, subpoenaed, or otherwise?

I wonder how many times in the past necessary and important, exculpatory or otherwise, was able to be withheld by the government?

Now I want that particular law rescinded.

Need to change the law to make them subject to FOIA.

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Guys, its time to let this one go. I wanted this to be a gay sex debacle that ruined the Pelosi family for good, but it's clearly not. We were all duped by the atrocious initial reporting and it's time to move on. Some nut job broke in and assaulted him. That's it.

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You're probably right. That's probably all there is to it, BUT the dems want to turn this on Trump, MAGA and the republicans. They want to politicize it for the midterms and we can't let them do that.

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And releasing available recordings of telephone conversations, video and police officers camera tapes would certainly clarify the truth. Much of the conspiracy speculation and claims would end.

I was drinking when I read your post and beer does not feel good coming out of your nose.

lol, I saw it live. Freaking hilarious.

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And who in the hell charges their cell phone in the bathroom. Not buying that

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Safe bet that house is old school wealthy enough to have a land line in the bathroom.

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But no electric outlets in the bedroom?

Saw that last night.

Carlson really had no decent reply except for a mental smirk.

BTW, if any of y'all ever have the chance to go to Keeneland Park for the horse races, go. It's one beautiful place. I had the opportunity to watch some of the Breeders Cup today because our game sucked so bad.

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lol, I saw it live. Freaking hilarious.

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One of the replies to that tweet.

This legit?

No, the picture on the right is from the nudist wedding or one of the nudist protests.

No pretty sure he is filming a wedding in the photo on the right

I don't believe so. A pic of him filming something has been posted numerous times but not in front of the Capitol. Besides, the tech companies scrubbed everything at the very beginning of this.

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No, the picture on the right is from the nudist wedding or one of the nudist protests.

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Haha awesome. Thanks. Didn't think so. I havent been keeping up much with this story, so I was unaware he was a nudist wedding filmer by day, Ultra MAGA by night.

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Do you really think that they would trust this level of operation to a known nude rights activist hippie weirdo freak from Berkeley? The only contract (if there was one) was between Mr. Pelosi and DePape and it wasn't politically motivated.

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Yes, this is a coverup, not a set-up.

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Oh, please! What on Earth are they trying to cover-up? He was attacked by a right-wing nut-job. What more do you feel you have a right to know?

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Give me one GOOD reason why they haven't released at least the outside camera footage for just a few seconds showing DePape breaking into the house. How about just a screen shot of DePape breaking the glass. They told us three people have seen the footage so we know it exists.

How is any of that violating privacy? They have no problem showing the broken glass in front of their house but why won't they show any of the actual security camera footage?

Forget body cams or anything inside the house, just release a screen shot or a few brief seconds of DePape breaking into the home. They could then spike the football and use their megaphones in the press to belittle and shame all the "right-wing extremists who were trying to sully the good name of Pelosi."

It's a lay-up, a free open shot on Republicans three days before the mid-terms. Please give me one good reason why they wouldn't take it. They NEVER pass up an opportunity to rake conservatives over the coals. Well, you have conservatives openly speculating that Paul let DePape into his home for drugs and/or sex. That footage is the kill shot but they won't take it because why? C'mon Watermelon Man, use your noggin and tell me why?

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Knowing you won't accept any reason I give, I wonder why I even try...

I am not a lawyer, but my understanding is that any images intentionally released by law enforcement at this point could be used as a technicality to delay, obstruct, and/or otherwise hamper prosecution. So, by doing so, law enforcement would give an advantage to the criminal.

Now, what would the benefit law enforcement would get by doing so? Nothing. The conspiracy theory promoters would viciously dissect and attack whatever was released like moon landing deniers, spinning even more bizarre theories off faster than Mike Lindell can find fraudulent packets. On the basis of absolutely nothing they already have Paul Pelosi not only being friends with David DePape, but also picking him up randomly for a wild night of gay behavior and illicit drugs. Of course, why any of this would interest an 82-year old heterosexual who is richer than you can imagine in unimportant (logic has no place, here).

Of course, though. It's a partisan witch-hunt! It is all an elaborate set-up to make Rebubs look bad right before the election! A marvelous plan! Let's send an 82-year old man to the hospital in critical condition to try to score political points with people who sincerely believe the 2020 election was stolen by fraudulent votes that apparently left no trace by either the fraudulent voters or those who coordinated the sinister plan. Of course, all the while ignoring the mountains of evidence that Trump knew it was all legit but felt that lying about it was the best policy. Yeah, that has to be the answer.

It all makes sense, now.

No one gave a **** about what the hell Paul Pelosi ever did before (aside from his obvious insider trading crimes). And really no one does care.

It's only after President PooPooPants and his cohort of degenerate morons tried to claim a nudist, illegal alien, hemp weaver with BLM flags in his front yard was actually an Ultra MAGA force that people demanded the proof.

What does releasing the evidence do? Provides the truth. None of this **** makes sense to anyone but useless idiots like yoursef.

But you know that. These people have been lying, verifiably and provably, for the last 6+ years. You can literally validate that with now-known facts....and yet you continue slurping up every drop like the map of Hawai'i DePepe left on Pelosi's lower back.

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Do you really think that they would trust this level of operation to a known nude rights activist hippie weirdo freak from Berkeley? The only contract (if there was one) was between Mr. Pelosi and DePape and it wasn't politically motivated.

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Yes, this is a coverup, not a set-up.

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Oh, please! What on Earth are they trying to cover-up? He was attacked by a right-wing nut-job. What more do you feel you have a right to know?

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Give me one GOOD reason why they haven't released at least the outside camera footage for just a few seconds showing DePape breaking into the house. How about just a screen shot of DePape breaking the glass. They told us three people have seen the footage so we know it exists.

How is any of that violating privacy? They have no problem showing the broken glass in front of their house but why won't they show any of the actual security camera footage?

Forget body cams or anything inside the house, just release a screen shot or a few brief seconds of DePape breaking into the home. They could then spike the football and use their megaphones in the press to belittle and shame all the "right-wing extremists who were trying to sully the good name of Pelosi."

It's a lay-up, a free open shot on Republicans three days before the mid-terms. Please give me one good reason why they wouldn't take it. They NEVER pass up an opportunity to rake conservatives over the coals. Well, you have conservatives openly speculating that Paul let DePape into his home for drugs and/or sex. That footage is the kill shot but they won't take it because why? C'mon Watermelon Man, use your noggin and tell me why?

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Knowing you won't accept any reason I give, I wonder why I even try...

I am not a lawyer, but my understanding is that any images intentionally released by law enforcement at this point could be used as a technicality to delay, obstruct, and/or otherwise hamper prosecution. So, by doing so, law enforcement would give an advantage to the criminal.

Now, what would the benefit law enforcement would get by doing so? Nothing. The conspiracy theory promoters would viciously dissect and attack whatever was released like moon landing deniers, spinning even more bizarre theories off faster than Mike Lindell can find fraudulent packets. On the basis of absolutely nothing they already have Paul Pelosi not only being friends with David DePape, but also picking him up randomly for a wild night of gay behavior and illicit drugs. Of course, why any of this would interest an 82-year old heterosexual who is richer than you can imagine in unimportant (logic has no place, here).

Of course, though. It's a partisan witch-hunt! It is all an elaborate set-up to make Rebubs look bad right before the election! A marvelous plan! Let's send an 82-year old man to the hospital in critical condition to try to score political points with people who sincerely believe the 2020 election was stt

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It's not a setup, it's a cover-up, BIG difference. This is an open and shut case, the police witnessed DePape attacking Paul in his home. Give me a break about delays and obstructions, the dude is a fruitcake, there is ZERO chance that he would be found not guilty even if all video evidence is withheld.

As I stated before, who cares if they call it a deep fake. They don't own the media like the left does and can control the narrative and this would absolutely be a kill shot three days before the mid-terms to show the voters how unhinged the MEGA MAGA folks are. Them acting like moon landing deniers would only further paint them in a negative light.

The Pelosi's could absolutely release the security camera footage if they wanted to...you don't think Nancy has that kind of pull in that town? This is such a lay-up that they would be complete idiots not to release it...unless there is another reason.

Your use of hyperbole, inflammatory asides, adjectives, and adverbs is impressive to behold!

But you lost me - what was the point you were trying to make again?

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Your use of hyperbole, inflammatory asides, adjectives, and adverbs is impressive to behold!

But you lost me - what was the point you were trying to make again?

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There is no reason to release video that would harm the ability of law enforcement to prosecute the offender. People who make-up wild theories would not be convinced.

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Your use of hyperbole, inflammatory asides, adjectives, and adverbs is impressive to behold!
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Don't read f16 much?

Or is it that you just don't notice the hyperbole and inflammatory attacks when you agree with them?

One of the two must be true.

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Don't read f16 much?

Or is it that you just don't notice the hyperbole and inflammatory attacks when you agree with them?

One of the two must be true.

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You couldn't just accept the compliment?

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But you lost me - what was the point you were trying to make again?

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There is no reason to release video that would harm the ability of law enforcement to prosecute the offender. People who make-up wild theories would not be convinced.

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Allegedly the cops witnessed the crazed hammer assault so HTF would it hinder the prosecution by releasing the videos? Your goaltending on this is worse than Lot Y's 2 teas economic prowess. I hope you're a paid troll instead of being this ignorant in real life.