George Floyd case-latest developments

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aggiehawg
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In reply to UTExan • 1:06p, 3/16/21
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Most people with either law or law enforcement background are more skeptical of the prosecution because they are more mindful of the burden of proof and thus of the holes in the state's cases.

Being a law and order kind of gal that's why I was so surprised when the case started falling apart almost immediately. The evidence wasn't there.
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In reply to aggiehawg • 1:20p, 3/16/21
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richardag said:
Thanks for the response.
You're welcome.

I'm still not sure what is the state's full theory of their case. Seems pretty scattershot to me.

Blue man bad.
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In reply to LeonardSkinner • 1:28p, 3/16/21
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LeonardSkinner said:
aggiehawg said:
richardag said:
Thanks for the response.
You're welcome.

I'm still not sure what is the state's full theory of their case. Seems pretty scattershot to me.

Blue man bad.
That jury questionnaire tries to inject race and discrimination in the case where there is no other allegations within the charging instruments themselves. Not only are many of the questions poorly drafted, I fear they are giving the jurors a false impression of what will be presented at trial. They are expecting to see some evidence of Chauvin's racial animus, for instance. Nothing I have read or heard backs up such a claim.

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1:39p, 3/16/21
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Has anybody watched the video from Nashville?

https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3188514
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1:43p, 3/16/21
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Court is back in session.
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1:49p, 3/16/21
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Aggiehawg, what is your hourly rate? Texags is gonna owe you a lifetime subscription for your work on this thread.
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1:49p, 3/16/21
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Nelson is making a motion for what I don't know but he's upset that Cahill is forcing him to use peremptory challenges for anyone having knowledge of the settlement and he should have more latitude in being able to question them.

Also Nelson clears up that there will be only two alternates.

Nelson is asking for his strike back.
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In reply to aggiehawg • 1:50p, 3/16/21
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In reply to GeorgiAg • 1:51p, 3/16/21
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GeorgiAg said:
Aggiehawg, what is your hourly rate? Texags is gonna owe you a lifetime subscription for your work on this thread.
LOL. I'm retired so I don't have an hourly rate anymore. We are still in pre-trial as well.
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In reply to aggiehawg • 1:52p, 3/16/21
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Court is back in session.

Is it ever.....!
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1:54p, 3/16/21
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Did I hear the state's attorney correctly? He said over three hundred people in the juror pool for this trial?? Wow!
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2:02p, 3/16/21
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Cahill denied the request to restore defense's peremptory strike.

Will do the group instruction for the prospective jurors now.
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2:13p, 3/16/21
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Juror #71 is up.

Male. Sounds youngish.
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2:20p, 3/16/21
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He knows about the third degree murder charge and the 27 million settlement but doesn't think it will affect his ability to be impartial.
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2:41p, 3/16/21
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Branca's summary of this morning's session is HERE Includes video of the argument about the May 2019 arrest and discussion.
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2:41p, 3/16/21
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This guy is warning them upfront he's going to convict.
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2:45p, 3/16/21
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Nelson is struggling with this guy, Cahill intervenes for the first time that I remember.

Says he would try as hard as he can but whenever he hears anything about this case that image is seared in his mind. Cahill still doesn't dismiss for cause.

Sidebar now.
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2:47p, 3/16/21
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Cahill asks #71 to step outside so the attorneys can talk. State asked for the sidebar but apparently the headsets are not all working. The audio is cut so can't hear what is the issue.
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In reply to aggiehawg • 2:50p, 3/16/21
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aggiehawg said:
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Im 35 and never have been called for jury duty. That is weird, isnt it?
I'm 62 and have only been called four times. Being a lawyer, I was never selected.
I'm 52 and only been called twice.

Once in Weatherford for petit jury - I showed up, clerk told me to go home.

Other time in Ft Worth. Made it to voir dire. Defense attorney started his questioning of me with "So, Mr. Aggie Engineer..." I was going home shortly after that...
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2:52p, 3/16/21
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State is arguing try to save this juror and wants to question him further. Cahill allows.
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In reply to aggiehawg • 2:55p, 3/16/21
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State is arguing try to save this juror

Why? They just want to force the defense to use a strike. There are 200 more jurors to go thru & Cahill was ready to let this one go.
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2:56p, 3/16/21
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If I was this juror - he must be feeling the tension. I'd be wanting out of there so quick.
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2:57p, 3/16/21
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He keeps delegating to the attorneys and the judge if they decide he's a fit juror he will try.

Such BS. He's been asked the same question over and over and still says he will try.
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In reply to schwack schwack • 2:57p, 3/16/21
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schwack schwack said:
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State is arguing try to save this juror

Why? They just want to force the defense to use a strike. There are 200 more jurors to go thru & Cahill was ready to let this one go.
I'm not sure Cahill was ready to let him go.
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In reply to aggiehawg • 2:58p, 3/16/21
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Frankly I think it's a fair answer. They are asking him to speculate. Judge needs to just dismiss him for cause.
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2:59p, 3/16/21
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Get this guy out of there.
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In reply to P.H. Dexippus • 3:00p, 3/16/21
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Mr. AGSPRT04 said:
Frankly I think it's a fair answer. They are asking him to speculate. Judge needs to just dismiss him for cause.
Fully agree. He should be struck for cause.
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3:05p, 3/16/21
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Cahill calls a recess and says he'll expect a motion (presumably from Nelson) when they reconvene in twenty minutes.
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3:20p, 3/16/21
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Struck for cause. Surprised it took so long.
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In reply to aggiehawg • 3:21p, 3/16/21
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Edit: answered above
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3:26p, 3/16/21
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Whew! Thought for a second that Cahill wasn't going to dismiss that guy!

Juror #73 is up.
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3:30p, 3/16/21
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Male. Sounds a little older.

He had heard of the 27 million settlement. But doesn't think it will affect him.
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3:33p, 3/16/21
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Self-employed so financial strain on my family. Has a business partner and assistant to help but it still would be difficult.

Cahill will let the examination to continue and will circle back later.

Nelson's up.
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3:37p, 3/16/21
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His concerns are mostly of the financial aspects. It's a busy time of year and he's in real estate.

It would be an inconvenience but not a true hardship.
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3:40p, 3/16/21
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I feel like I'm f5ing a baseball thread and aggiehawg is Lance Uppercut with the pbp.
It's not the severity of the punishment that deters crime; it's the certainty of it.
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