A bench trial is risky because the rules require the request for trial by jury in many jurisdictions without knowing which judge would be hearing the case. Further, even during the course of pretrial and trial something could happen to the judge and another one takes on the case.Come Out Roll said:
Going to ask a completely stupid/ignorant/uninformed question for all you counselor-types:
Considering the defense believes that the states case is very weak (of which I don't disagree here), why wouldn't Chauvin ask for a trial by judge instead of a trial by jury?? Could he have not done that in this instance?
Again, sorry if I've seen too many Perry Mason episodes for the extreme naive question....
aggiehawg said:Yeah, that's why I'm not so sure if she would be good for the defense.thirdcoast said:
She pretty much admits she believes Floyd was choked to death:
1) mentioning she knows how long it takes to be choked unconcious
2) says how could someone kneel on him until he was dead
3) said "considering Floyd died, yes he kneeled on him too long"
After all that she then directly said she "didn't have an opinion on how he died, or if Chauvin was responsible"
It doesn't have to be Thanksgiving to have a turkey on the bench as lawyers often joke. At the state level these are elected people. Politicians.Come Out Roll said:
Thnx for the response
Not to be argumentative here, but if the FACTS of the case rule the day (as they should), would you really care about how temperamental whatever judge you may get would be??
Again...this ain't my baleywick, so forgive the ignorance of the question....
No s***. I am very worried about that juror standing up in the jury room saying she's a nurse and weighing in which expert witness has more credibility with her. Confirmation bias since she already believes he choked to death.schwack schwack said:
I think I might have used a strike on the nurse, but I guess they know what's coming up and are hesitant. She seems fair, but I'm not convinced she can put her medical training aside. If only the prosecutor had asked her about taking directions from a police officer vs a citizen on the street ......
I sure hope so. But he had to confer and return with more questions three separate times and Judge Cahill also had to intervene and ask her some questions. So it was touch and go on whether they would strike her or not.Readzilla said:
There must have been some other stuff in that questionnaire that Nelson thought made her good if he didn't strike
If Nelson can play to her on the medical evidence, I think it will work well. Just hammer home the point with expert testimony the toxicity of the drug combination and Floyd's medical condition perimortem/prior to arrest.aggiehawg said:No s***. I am very worried about that juror standing up in the jury room saying she's a nurse and weighing in which expert witness has more credibility with her. Confirmation bias since she already believes he choked to death.schwack schwack said:
I think I might have used a strike on the nurse, but I guess they know what's coming up and are hesitant. She seems fair, but I'm not convinced she can put her medical training aside. If only the prosecutor had asked her about taking directions from a police officer vs a citizen on the street ......
OTOH, she has experience with opioids and their effects and when she hears the evidence of how much fentanyl and meth he had on board, his lungs filled with fluid, the foam around his mouth, his medical condition with hypertension and narrowed arteries including 75% blockage of an artery? That's a lot of medical evidence in contravention of he choked to death.
As a cardiac care nurse those facts should really open her eyes (I hope.)
There is also another consideration here. The state is really trying very hard to convince Cahill to allow one of their experts, a Dr. Vincent testify that Floyd was not resisting arrest because he was in the middle of a mental health crisis. She sounds to me like a SJW type who believes in Critical Race Theory and even went back to slavery and Jim Crowe law eras to explain away Floyd's apprehension upon his arrest. The race based stuff.Quote:
If Nelson can play to her on the medical evidence, I think it will work well. Just hammer home the point with expert testimony the toxicity of the drug combination and Floyd's medical condition perimortem/prior to arrest.
I don't understand that reasoning at all and Nelson needs to explore that further.Mr. AGSPRT04 said:
This guy think he's at personal risk if he votes to convict.
ETA- Hawg said it. Unusual conclusion.
