Obviously I'm not going to change anyone's mind, especially here. But please refrain from making snap judgements based on one (murky) side of the story. The "facts" that are being reported in this case are from websites and entities with a decidedly ultra-conservative viewpoint, and their reporting on the case reflects such.
Father's Last Fight to Save Son From 'Gender Transition' is Unfolding in a Texas Ct.
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The people believing this child should be given hormone therapy are insane!!!
It's bad enough for an adult to have his mental illness applauded by leftist morons. But a child???
When I was 7, I wanted to be a monkey. Thank God my parents weren't idiots, and that science didn't know how to "transition" me to seeming like I was a monkey!
Good grief, what is wrong with some of you people?
It's bad enough for an adult to have his mental illness applauded by leftist morons. But a child???
When I was 7, I wanted to be a monkey. Thank God my parents weren't idiots, and that science didn't know how to "transition" me to seeming like I was a monkey!
Good grief, what is wrong with some of you people?
Sweet Clementine said:
Obviously I'm not going to change anyone's mind, especially here. But please refrain from making snap judgements based on one (murky) side of the story. The "facts" that are being reported in this case are from websites and entities with a decidedly ultra-conservative viewpoint, and their reporting on the case reflects such.
Is the dad trying to stop the gender changing process?
I missed that angle. That makes more sense now.Tanya 93 said:She gave birth.Faustus said:
Lots to this story I'm missing.
How did the non-biological mother get custody over the actual father?
I assume she adopted the child, but if the mom and dad separated when the child was 3, then that was the time to get her out of the picture by at least seeking to be the sole managing conservator over his biological children.
I'd be curious what the legal theories were at trial, and how they were presented. I'm having difficulty envisioning a jury siding with the mom based on the facts as presented here. Are there any articles that lay out the two sides' legal filings and arguments?
It is a tricky issue and I don't think anyone would ever rule she isn't the mom.
Yes, and is even insisting that the child is a boy, despite the fact that the child is known at school as a girl.
And no one is chopping anything off.
And no one is chopping anything off.
Sweet Clementine said:
Yes, and is even insisting that the child is a boy, despite the fact that the child is known at school as a girl.
And no one is chopping anything off.
Then the dad is right.
What do you mean insisting?????
The child is indeed a boy!
If anyone is insisting anything it is the mother.
What the child is called at school has no bearing at all to the child's gender.
So, she "found out" that he had lied about his past.
But she still went through the pregnancy?
I don't care if he said he was Donald Trump's brother.
That woman needs a trip to the funny farm.
But she still went through the pregnancy?
I don't care if he said he was Donald Trump's brother.
That woman needs a trip to the funny farm.
The children were already born at this point.
The fact that is relevant to me here is that the mom is supporting a seven year old transitioning from a boy to a girl.Sweet Clementine said:
Obviously I'm not going to change anyone's mind, especially here. But please refrain from making snap judgements based on one (murky) side of the story. The "facts" that are being reported in this case are from websites and entities with a decidedly ultra-conservative viewpoint, and their reporting on the case reflects such.
Is that not a fact?
This should be illegal. And if the dad is complete POS, that doesn't change that this should not be happening to a child. Period.
It took her THAT long to figure it out?Sweet Clementine said:
The children were already born at this point.
Sweet Clementine said:
Yes, and is even insisting that the child is a boy, despite the fact that the child is known at school as a girl.
And no one is chopping anything off.
Also who is the liar here? Thr mom telling everyone her son is her daughter or the dad who misled the mon?
Why not both?
That tells us that you are here to support the "trans movement" including pumping a little boy full of drugs and hormones, and then chopping off his *****, all so his mother can gain more SJW street cred.Sweet Clementine said:
Do you really think that the mom is forcing the child to do this? I know that's what you've read, but dad has done a great job of mobilizing the anti-trans movement to back him up.
You should really stick to the general board.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
Honest question...is this a request of the child or because the mother enrolled the child as a girl?Sweet Clementine said:
Yes, and is even insisting that the child is a boy, despite the fact that the child is known at school as a girl.
And no one is chopping anything off.
Not sure a school record where all information is provided by the mother is really definitive in this case.
I do have kids, and within reason I would support my child. I do think that gender/sex is not black and white. There are shades of gray.
I would certainly seek out the best medical care for my child, which is what the mother in this case is doing.
I would certainly seek out the best medical care for my child, which is what the mother in this case is doing.
Some of those Google reviews...
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I came in for an appointment 10 years ago for an ear infection, and she gave me puberty blockers and Estrogen, whatever that is, and I had to start wearing dresses? Long story short I didn't want this, everyone I know mocks me, and im going to jump off a bridge because my doctor: Dr. Anne Georgulas made me do it
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I came in because my daughter had a cold only to find out after 7 years she is now a boy after just one visit with Dr. Georgulas. Groundbreaking work. The referral we got for therapy was for another amazing doctor that helped affirm my sons identity and is even willing to help me testify in court to take her away from her mother who is a cruel unaccepting bigot. I'm sure I'll win.
"[When I was a kid,] I wanted to be a pirate. Thank God no one took me seriously and scheduled me for eye removal and peg leg surgery."- Bill Maher
At the request of the child.
that's what she is doingSweet Clementine said:
I would certainly seek out the best medical care for my child, but only from transgender friendly providers?
Again, that's not the case. That's what the biased reports are saying.
Regardless of the case; the broader question here is: at what age should a person be allowed to "transition"?
I think it should be the age of majority. 18. Sorry, but you need to deal with it until then
I think it should be the age of majority. 18. Sorry, but you need to deal with it until then
Ok, the links that you provided are about the divorce and his lies pertaining to the divorce and custody.Sweet Clementine said:
Again, that's not the case. That's what the biased reports are saying.
Maybe the guy is a liar about his past.
Where are the links to the "unbiased" reports that you are referring to?
If nothing hormonal or surgical is being done, what is the big deal with a girl with a buzz cut and camo pants or a boy with nails and make up?SpreadsheetAg said:
Regardless of the case; the broader question here is: at what age should a person be allowed to "transition"?
I think it should be the age of majority. 18. Sorry, but you need to deal with it until then
Who does that hurt?
And perhaps parents shouldn't teach their kids that bullying or making fun of someone is okay.
Sweet Clementine said:
Do you really think that the mom is forcing the child to do this?
No different than how child victims are groomed by pedophiles.
Sweet Clementine said:
Just FYI, the sources that you are all reading on this are extremely biased towards the father. The father is a con man who is blasting these things on social media to make himself look good.
Do yourselves a favor and go find some actual information about this case before condemning and threatening the mother.
Ah ok, that's different then. His child of 7 should be allowed to transition fully!
SpreadsheetAg said:
Regardless of the case; the broader question here is: at what age should a person be allowed to "transition"?
I think it should be the age of majority. 18. Sorry, but you need to deal with it until then
As soon as current health care insurance law does not allow/mandate they stay on their parents' health insurance.
Children are impressionable. Especially when the parents are the ones reinforcing the child's thoughts.Tanya 93 said:If nothing hormonal or surgical is being done, what is the big deal with a girl with a buzz cut and camo pants or a boy with nails and make up?SpreadsheetAg said:
Regardless of the case; the broader question here is: at what age should a person be allowed to "transition"?
I think it should be the age of majority. 18. Sorry, but you need to deal with it until then
Who does that hurt?
And perhaps parents shouldn't teach their kids that bullying or making fun of someone is okay.
If my parents started dressing me like a girl and putting make up on me when I was 7, I probably would've believed that I was supposed to be a girl.
Sweet Clementine said:
Do you really think that the mom is forcing the child to do this?
That's not the question. Is she preventing it? That's the question.
Being forced to do something is totally different than wanting to do somethingGCP12 said:Children are impressionable. Especially when the parents are the ones reinforcing the child's thoughts.Tanya 93 said:If nothing hormonal or surgical is being done, what is the big deal with a girl with a buzz cut and camo pants or a boy with nails and make up?SpreadsheetAg said:
Regardless of the case; the broader question here is: at what age should a person be allowed to "transition"?
I think it should be the age of majority. 18. Sorry, but you need to deal with it until then
Who does that hurt?
And perhaps parents shouldn't teach their kids that bullying or making fun of someone is okay.
If my parents started dressing me like a girl and putting make up on me when I was 7, I probably would've believed that I was supposed to be a girl.
Tanya 93 said:Being forced to do something is totally different than wanting to do somethingGCP12 said:Children are impressionable. Especially when the parents are the ones reinforcing the child's thoughts.Tanya 93 said:If nothing hormonal or surgical is being done, what is the big deal with a girl with a buzz cut and camo pants or a boy with nails and make up?SpreadsheetAg said:
Regardless of the case; the broader question here is: at what age should a person be allowed to "transition"?
I think it should be the age of majority. 18. Sorry, but you need to deal with it until then
Who does that hurt?
And perhaps parents shouldn't teach their kids that bullying or making fun of someone is okay.
If my parents started dressing me like a girl and putting make up on me when I was 7, I probably would've believed that I was supposed to be a girl.
he said " the parents are the ones reinforcing the child's thoughts."
Tanya 93 said:Being forced to do something is totally different than wanting to do somethingGCP12 said:Children are impressionable. Especially when the parents are the ones reinforcing the child's thoughts.Tanya 93 said:If nothing hormonal or surgical is being done, what is the big deal with a girl with a buzz cut and camo pants or a boy with nails and make up?SpreadsheetAg said:
Regardless of the case; the broader question here is: at what age should a person be allowed to "transition"?
I think it should be the age of majority. 18. Sorry, but you need to deal with it until then
Who does that hurt?
And perhaps parents shouldn't teach their kids that bullying or making fun of someone is okay.
If my parents started dressing me like a girl and putting make up on me when I was 7, I probably would've believed that I was supposed to be a girl.
Yes because no child of that age ever "wanted" to do something to please his mom.
Those nails and makeup aren't gonna put themselves on.Tanya 93 said:Being forced to do something is totally different than wanting to do somethingGCP12 said:Children are impressionable. Especially when the parents are the ones reinforcing the child's thoughts.Tanya 93 said:If nothing hormonal or surgical is being done, what is the big deal with a girl with a buzz cut and camo pants or a boy with nails and make up?SpreadsheetAg said:
Regardless of the case; the broader question here is: at what age should a person be allowed to "transition"?
I think it should be the age of majority. 18. Sorry, but you need to deal with it until then
Who does that hurt?
And perhaps parents shouldn't teach their kids that bullying or making fun of someone is okay.
If my parents started dressing me like a girl and putting make up on me when I was 7, I probably would've believed that I was supposed to be a girl.
And you can imagine what it would have looked like if a 7 year old did it.
Come on, she's pushing this, and you know it down deep inside.
Seven year old: Mommy, I want to be a thief!Tanya 93 said:Being forced to do something is totally different than wanting to do somethingGCP12 said:Children are impressionable. Especially when the parents are the ones reinforcing the child's thoughts.Tanya 93 said:If nothing hormonal or surgical is being done, what is the big deal with a girl with a buzz cut and camo pants or a boy with nails and make up?SpreadsheetAg said:
Regardless of the case; the broader question here is: at what age should a person be allowed to "transition"?
I think it should be the age of majority. 18. Sorry, but you need to deal with it until then
Who does that hurt?
And perhaps parents shouldn't teach their kids that bullying or making fun of someone is okay.
If my parents started dressing me like a girl and putting make up on me when I was 7, I probably would've believed that I was supposed to be a girl.
Mom: Ok, son. Let me help you steal ****
I didn't force the child to steal! He wanted to be a thief!
The point is that children don't know **** and facilitating their every indulgence is not a parent's job. But, you knew that.
I do think she is pushing this because she wants people to think she is enlightened.mrad85 said:Those nails and makeup aren't gonna put themselves on.Tanya 93 said:Being forced to do something is totally different than wanting to do somethingGCP12 said:Children are impressionable. Especially when the parents are the ones reinforcing the child's thoughts.Tanya 93 said:If nothing hormonal or surgical is being done, what is the big deal with a girl with a buzz cut and camo pants or a boy with nails and make up?SpreadsheetAg said:
Regardless of the case; the broader question here is: at what age should a person be allowed to "transition"?
I think it should be the age of majority. 18. Sorry, but you need to deal with it until then
Who does that hurt?
And perhaps parents shouldn't teach their kids that bullying or making fun of someone is okay.
If my parents started dressing me like a girl and putting make up on me when I was 7, I probably would've believed that I was supposed to be a girl.
And you can imagine what it would have looked like if a 7 year old did it.
Come on, she's pushing this, and you know it down deep inside.
However, I don't have an issue with a girl never wearing a dress because she is more comfortable in "boy" clothes. Nor do I have a problem with a boy wearing makeup once they a re teens.
If he wants long hair at 7, I would support it. It is hair. It is temporary. Kinda like my son's hair color
I think too many parents are focused on their kids representing who they are and what they believe instead of letting their kids be themselves
Ok then, she is forcing (pushing) the issue, not doing what he wants to do.Tanya 93 said:I do think she is pushing this because she wants people to think she is enlightened.mrad85 said:Those nails and makeup aren't gonna put themselves on.Tanya 93 said:Being forced to do something is totally different than wanting to do somethingGCP12 said:Children are impressionable. Especially when the parents are the ones reinforcing the child's thoughts.Tanya 93 said:If nothing hormonal or surgical is being done, what is the big deal with a girl with a buzz cut and camo pants or a boy with nails and make up?SpreadsheetAg said:
Regardless of the case; the broader question here is: at what age should a person be allowed to "transition"?
I think it should be the age of majority. 18. Sorry, but you need to deal with it until then
Who does that hurt?
And perhaps parents shouldn't teach their kids that bullying or making fun of someone is okay.
If my parents started dressing me like a girl and putting make up on me when I was 7, I probably would've believed that I was supposed to be a girl.
And you can imagine what it would have looked like if a 7 year old did it.
Come on, she's pushing this, and you know it down deep inside.
This is ALL about her.
So, the dad might be a jerk. I don't know.Sweet Clementine said:
Obviously I'm not going to change anyone's mind, especially here. But please refrain from making snap judgements based on one (murky) side of the story. The "facts" that are being reported in this case are from websites and entities with a decidedly ultra-conservative viewpoint, and their reporting on the case reflects such.
But, he is not trying to give his kid life altering, irreversible hormone therapy, and the mom is, without dad's consent.
Maybe don't give the dad custody. Foster care. Grandparents. Anything.
But, altering this kids physical development in a way that will impact him for life is wrong. Period.
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