For a teenager that at least has a modicum of understanding of the world and what they are doing? Not much harm really.Tanya 93 said:If nothing hormonal or surgical is being done, what is the big deal with a girl with a buzz cut and camo pants or a boy with nails and make up?SpreadsheetAg said:
Regardless of the case; the broader question here is: at what age should a person be allowed to "transition"?
I think it should be the age of majority. 18. Sorry, but you need to deal with it until then
Who does that hurt?
And perhaps parents shouldn't teach their kids that bullying or making fun of someone is okay.
apologies, did not see your question.annie88 said:
I'll ask again since you didn't answer.
What serious issues does the dad have and how is he a fairly bad person?
Odds are pretty high at this rate that this kid won't make 18. He'll either kill himself, wig out and kill a lot of folks and kill himself after, or will be killed by LEO's in the process of killing a lot of people.aTmAg said:
When this kid is 18 and is all screwed up, he should be able to sue everybody involved.
If true, that's not good. Hopefully the daughters aren't anything like their mom.BMX Bandit said:apologies, did not see your question.annie88 said:
I'll ask again since you didn't answer.
What serious issues does the dad have and how is he a fairly bad person?
he pretended to be gay to get out of the army, falsely accused the mom's daughters of abusing his sons, and lied about essentially his entire life to get this wackadoodle mom to marry him
annie88 said:If true, that's not good. Hopefully the dragsters aren't anything like their mom.BMX Bandit said:apologies, did not see your question.annie88 said:
I'll ask again since you didn't answer.
What serious issues does the dad have and how is he a fairly bad person?
he pretended to be gay to get out of the army, falsely accused the mom's daughters of abusing his sons, and lied about essentially his entire life to get this wackadoodle mom to marry him
This entire family is screwed up. Those poor kids.
BMX,BMX Bandit said:apologies, did not see your question.annie88 said:
I'll ask again since you didn't answer.
What serious issues does the dad have and how is he a fairly bad person?
he pretended to be gay to get out of the army, falsely accused the mom's daughters of abusing his sons, and lied about essentially his entire life to get this wackadoodle mom to marry him
It's true enough for the court to have granted the mother a divorce on the grounds of fraud.annie88 said:If true, that's not good. Hopefully the dragsters aren't anything like their mom.BMX Bandit said:apologies, did not see your question.annie88 said:
I'll ask again since you didn't answer.
What serious issues does the dad have and how is he a fairly bad person?
he pretended to be gay to get out of the army, falsely accused the mom's daughters of abusing his sons, and lied about essentially his entire life to get this wackadoodle mom to marry him
This entire family is screwed up. Those poor kids.
annie88 said:If true, that's not good. Hopefully the dragsters aren't anything like their mom.BMX Bandit said:apologies, did not see your question.annie88 said:
I'll ask again since you didn't answer.
What serious issues does the dad have and how is he a fairly bad person?
he pretended to be gay to get out of the army, falsely accused the mom's daughters of abusing his sons, and lied about essentially his entire life to get this wackadoodle mom to marry him
This entire family is screwed up. Those poor kids.
Actually no, but that's pretty damn funny! I use talk text a lot and didn't review it close enough. Of all the words!BMX Bandit said:annie88 said:If true, that's not good. Hopefully the dragsters aren't anything like their mom.BMX Bandit said:apologies, did not see your question.annie88 said:
I'll ask again since you didn't answer.
What serious issues does the dad have and how is he a fairly bad person?
he pretended to be gay to get out of the army, falsely accused the mom's daughters of abusing his sons, and lied about essentially his entire life to get this wackadoodle mom to marry him
This entire family is screwed up. Those poor kids.
Freudian slip?
I agree.who?mikejones said:annie88 said:If true, that's not good. Hopefully the dragsters aren't anything like their mom.BMX Bandit said:apologies, did not see your question.annie88 said:
I'll ask again since you didn't answer.
What serious issues does the dad have and how is he a fairly bad person?
he pretended to be gay to get out of the army, falsely accused the mom's daughters of abusing his sons, and lied about essentially his entire life to get this wackadoodle mom to marry him
This entire family is screwed up. Those poor kids.
All the father's misgivings considered, he is still correct in this case. The kids best place may not be with dad, but it sure is hell isn't with the mother.
Its clear as day this mother intentionally started manipulating james when he was barely old enough to speak. This case is sickening.
aTmAg said:
What's wrong with the dad? I'm not familiar with it too much.
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The court record gave further details of the mother's allegations. She testified in court in 2016 that she had learned Younger was married twice when she had been told initially of one marriage, that he "lied to her" about military experience, that he earned less income than she thought he did, that he had "taken unemployment probably several times in his life," and that he did not have a college degree, and he was not a professor. She stated that she wouldn't have married Younger if she had known about the second previous marriage.
A psychologist who conducted a child custody evaluation report testified that Younger admitted to him that he "misstated or lied" to Georgulas about his history as to education, previous marriages, military experience, and employment. The mother argued that her business gave Younger a $45,000 check to purchase a truck but he sold it without permission after they separated. They had a prenuptial agreement.
In 2016, the court annulled the marriage and awarded Georgulas damages in the amount of the truck. Younger appealed. Younger testified that people were "clearly aware of my first wife" because Georgulas's daughters used to make fun of her nickname.
The court records say Younger argued that "even if he exaggerated his educational accomplishments" and this constituted "a species of fraud, they do not afford a basis for destruction of the marriage."
Georgulas testified that Younger had told her he was getting his PhD and had two degrees from a university in Dallas but later she determined he didn't have a college degree. The court records state that Georgulas testified that she learned Younger "had been in the Marines for a very short period of time and because he was underage, he got removed from the Marines," even though he allegedly told her he was a career Marine who had to fight in the Iraq War.
According to Georgulas, "she found out after they separated that Younger had been in the Army and was discharged due to an 'admission of homosexuality.'" The court opinion states that the "record shows Younger testified he did not 'mention much about the Army' during the marriage, but acknowledged he was discharged from the Army due to admission of homosexuality."
Younger earned in excess of $100,000 only in the year 2000, according to the court records.
The appeals court concluded that "the evidence supports the trial court's findings supporting conclusions that Younger committed fraud by inducing Georgulas into marriage. Younger denied Georgulas's allegations, and in some cases testified to the contrary. However, the trial court is the sole judge of the credibility of the witnesses, and it was permitted to believe Georgulas's testimony and reject Younger's testimony. The trial court did not err in rendering a judgment annulling the marriage."
BDub3 said:
Gotta be 21 to drink alcohol, but 7 to have your genitals permanently changed. Do people really not think about the implications of allowing children to make this decision and also not allowing them to make the decision to drink, smoke, or whatever else at any age?
pagerman @ work said:aTmAg said:
What's wrong with the dad? I'm not familiar with it too much.
He's a real piece of work.
https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2019/10/younger.png?w=1024&h=462Quote:
The court record gave further details of the mother's allegations. She testified in court in 2016 that she had learned Younger was married twice when she had been told initially of one marriage, that he "lied to her" about military experience, that he earned less income than she thought he did, that he had "taken unemployment probably several times in his life," and that he did not have a college degree, and he was not a professor. She stated that she wouldn't have married Younger if she had known about the second previous marriage.
A psychologist who conducted a child custody evaluation report testified that Younger admitted to him that he "misstated or lied" to Georgulas about his history as to education, previous marriages, military experience, and employment. The mother argued that her business gave Younger a $45,000 check to purchase a truck but he sold it without permission after they separated. They had a prenuptial agreement.
In 2016, the court annulled the marriage and awarded Georgulas damages in the amount of the truck. Younger appealed. Younger testified that people were "clearly aware of my first wife" because Georgulas's daughters used to make fun of her nickname.
The court records say Younger argued that "even if he exaggerated his educational accomplishments" and this constituted "a species of fraud, they do not afford a basis for destruction of the marriage."
Georgulas testified that Younger had told her he was getting his PhD and had two degrees from a university in Dallas but later she determined he didn't have a college degree. The court records state that Georgulas testified that she learned Younger "had been in the Marines for a very short period of time and because he was underage, he got removed from the Marines," even though he allegedly told her he was a career Marine who had to fight in the Iraq War.
According to Georgulas, "she found out after they separated that Younger had been in the Army and was discharged due to an 'admission of homosexuality.'" The court opinion states that the "record shows Younger testified he did not 'mention much about the Army' during the marriage, but acknowledged he was discharged from the Army due to admission of homosexuality."
Younger earned in excess of $100,000 only in the year 2000, according to the court records.
The appeals court concluded that "the evidence supports the trial court's findings supporting conclusions that Younger committed fraud by inducing Georgulas into marriage. Younger denied Georgulas's allegations, and in some cases testified to the contrary. However, the trial court is the sole judge of the credibility of the witnesses, and it was permitted to believe Georgulas's testimony and reject Younger's testimony. The trial court did not err in rendering a judgment annulling the marriage."
pagerman @ work said:aTmAg said:
What's wrong with the dad? I'm not familiar with it too much.
He's a real piece of work.Quote:
The court record gave further details of the mother's allegations. She testified in court in 2016 that she had learned Younger was married twice when she had been told initially of one marriage, that he "lied to her" about military experience, that he earned less income than she thought he did, that he had "taken unemployment probably several times in his life," and that he did not have a college degree, and he was not a professor. She stated that she wouldn't have married Younger if she had known about the second previous marriage.
A psychologist who conducted a child custody evaluation report testified that Younger admitted to him that he "misstated or lied" to Georgulas about his history as to education, previous marriages, military experience, and employment. The mother argued that her business gave Younger a $45,000 check to purchase a truck but he sold it without permission after they separated. They had a prenuptial agreement.
In 2016, the court annulled the marriage and awarded Georgulas damages in the amount of the truck. Younger appealed. Younger testified that people were "clearly aware of my first wife" because Georgulas's daughters used to make fun of her nickname.
The court records say Younger argued that "even if he exaggerated his educational accomplishments" and this constituted "a species of fraud, they do not afford a basis for destruction of the marriage."
Georgulas testified that Younger had told her he was getting his PhD and had two degrees from a university in Dallas but later she determined he didn't have a college degree. The court records state that Georgulas testified that she learned Younger "had been in the Marines for a very short period of time and because he was underage, he got removed from the Marines," even though he allegedly told her he was a career Marine who had to fight in the Iraq War.
According to Georgulas, "she found out after they separated that Younger had been in the Army and was discharged due to an 'admission of homosexuality.'" The court opinion states that the "record shows Younger testified he did not 'mention much about the Army' during the marriage, but acknowledged he was discharged from the Army due to admission of homosexuality."
Younger earned in excess of $100,000 only in the year 2000, according to the court records.
The appeals court concluded that "the evidence supports the trial court's findings supporting conclusions that Younger committed fraud by inducing Georgulas into marriage. Younger denied Georgulas's allegations, and in some cases testified to the contrary. However, the trial court is the sole judge of the credibility of the witnesses, and it was permitted to believe Georgulas's testimony and reject Younger's testimony. The trial court did not err in rendering a judgment annulling the marriage."
No, the lying is all from the divorce several years ago (2016 I think), and has nothing to do with what is happening now.PanzerAggie06 said:
So basically the woman's lawyers are creating a smokescreen using the husband's past to hide what the primary issue is. That being she wants to begin transitioning a young boy into a young girl. While the husband seems like a real piece of work I have yet to see anything that might suggest he is a poor father. Him being a liar who seemingly created a persona for this woman that was completely inaccurate, while s****y, in no way indicates his parenting skills. Now, he might, in fact, be a crap dad. This still would in no way, shape, or form justify what this woman is attempting to do. Again, this all seems to be little more than a smokescreen.
BallerStaf2003 said:
I just want to say for the record that this situation is very sad.
If the boy is a boy and identifies as a boy, he's a boy.
It's very sad that the mother is acting this way to feed her narcissism.
BallerStaf2003 said:
If the boy is a boyand identifies as a boy, he's a boy.
BallerStaf2003 said:
I just want to say for the record that this situation is very sad.
If the boy is a boy and identifies as a boy, he's a boy.
It's very sad that the mother is acting this way to feed her narcissism.
Anyone know wtf this was about?Ol_Ag_02 said:
There was a bomb threat related to this case today in Coppell.
