***** THE ACOLYTE Show Discussion (see note inside) Thread *****

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11:46p, 6/11/24
I'm so disappointed in texags. As soon as the two witches had the conversation and face touching, I was totally expecting a bunch of dudes who have likely choked it to lesbian porn to act highly offended. Instead, more of the complaints are about a stone fortress catching fire from a notebook, which was my laughable "complaint."

This was obviously a setup episode, so I'll give it a little leniency, but the child acting was brutal.
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11:49p, 6/11/24
Saw episode 3, and I have so many questions.

1. Why did the opening scene feel like I was watching an episode of Dino Dana? Can Disney not find better child actors?

2. Why did the twins look totally different as kids?

3. Why did the ascension ceremony music sound more like a Disney musical rather than Star Wars music?

4. Why did the Jedi say the witches could let the twins test to be Jedi with their permission, but then they had to come up with ways to fail the test anyway? Why not just tell the Jedi no?

5. Why is killing her sister Mae's solution to not wanting her sister to leave? That's worse than letting her leave, right?
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In reply to The Porkchop Express • 11:55p, 6/11/24
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I read that completely differently. The Jedi didn't force anyone to come with them, whereas the witches were the ones who wanted to keep Osha essentially trapped as a prisoner.
Indara told the main witch that they couldn't deny the Jedi's right to test the children. That definitely sounded like they were going to get their way, and they forced their way into their fortress as well - they said something about snapping the cables on the bridge maybe?
My take is, that the head witch (Aniseya? the one with the mark) was actually going to let Osha go with the Jedi since it is what she wanted.
I also think the Jedi likely came in and presumptively said "we are taking her", or maybe also said they are taking Mae. The witches didn't like the Jedi presuming they can do as they please and take what they want, and from their point of view that would be a pretty oppresive thing to do. That likely leads to the start of whatever fighting occurred.
It also seems very likely that the Jedi lied to Osha about what happened, but from their point of view it may be one of those kind white lies?

Its interesting that most of the witches were dead in that one cavern and the mother witch (Aniseya?) died outside in that village area.

Also, the actress playing Aniseya did a great job I thought.
I also think the two child actresses were pretty good for children.
Initially I thought she was going to let her go as well, but I think 1 or 2 things happened.

1) The mother assumed she would ever see her again, and when Osha still said no, she decided to find a way to deny the Jedi. no, she decided to find a way to deny the Jedi.

2) There was a schism in the witches - with Aniseya saying she could go and the Zabrak - Mother Coril(sp?)) leading a revolt against that decision and the Jedi themselves. That could be a reason why Aniseya's body was found away from the others - perhaps the others detained her or restrained her somehow and then attacked or confronted the Jedi.

Definitely a lot of layers that hopefully we get to see later. By presenting the coven as a family first, it tinges our view of the Jedi we know being the light / good. Aniseya herself says they were hunted because some believed that they had dark powers - but if they are on a uninhabited planet outside Republic space, what right do the Jedi have to come take their kids? Especially when Sol tells Osha there are "thousands" of Jedi on Coruscant. Do you have to have all of them everywhere?

Not sure we'll get the whole back story, but perhaps the witches are a group the Jedi have gone up against before, maybe even to the point where the witches were "allowed" to go into exile on the promise that they didn't recruit or add new members to their ranks.

This is what I didn't understand. I just kept thinking, "Man, the Jedi really are assh*les" the entire episode. Can they just... take kids like that? From wherever the hell they want? And if a kid passes the test, they HAVE to train to be a Jedi?

Didn't Qui-Gon at least give Anakin/Shmi a choice?

I don't know, that whole thing was so weird.

But yeah, if the witches had already proven genuinely untrustworthy, or the last kid(s) they produced ended up being psycho killers or whatever, then I get it. Then this particular group of Jedi might have basically been parol officers checking in on their parolees, and that still might very well might be the chase. But again, if you're going to spend an entire episode on a flashback like this, at least fill it out with some more context/backstory/detail.
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In reply to AggieOO • 11:55p, 6/11/24
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AggieOO said:
I'm so disappointed in texags. As soon as the two witches had the conversation and face touching, I was totally expecting a bunch of dudes who have likely choked it to lesbian porn to act highly offended. Instead, more of the complaints are about a stone fortress catching fire from a notebook, which was my laughable "complaint."

This was obviously a setup episode, so I'll give it a little leniency, but the child acting was brutal.
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12:03a, 6/12/24
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Considering the showrunner mentioned Rashoman as one of the biggest influences, I assume we are going to be revisiting this night from other POVs
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12:04a, 6/12/24
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At the end when Osha woke up on the Jedi ship, Torbin was out of focus in the background with injuries to his face. A fight definitely went down and the Jedi probably killed them all and lied about it to cover it up.
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In reply to Thunderstruck xx • 12:04a, 6/12/24
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Thunderstruck xx said:
Saw episode 3, and I have so many questions.

1. Why did the opening scene feel like I was watching an episode of Dino Dana? Can Disney not find better child actors?

2. Why did the twins look totally different as kids?

3. Why did the ascension ceremony music sound more like a Disney musical rather than Star Wars music?

4. Why did the Jedi say the witches could let the twins test to be Jedi with their permission, but then they had to come up with ways to fail the test anyway? Why not just tell the Jedi no?

5. Why is killing her sister Mae's solution to not wanting her sister to leave? That's worse than letting her leave, right?

1 - On a TV budget/timeline, finding twin black actors of a certain age who can actually act, and look like Amandla Stenberg, is a damn near impossible task. Which, again, is all the more reason not to make a full-length episode out of this particular flashback. They were just setting themselves up for failure.

5 - I'm actually going to agree with you on this one. After everything she said, having Mae's "solution" be to just kill her sister instead was so incredibly dumb/made absolutely no sense to me. There were a thousand other ways the filmmakers could have gotten to "fire kills everyone" and that one would have been last on my list.
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In reply to Flashdiaz • 12:05a, 6/12/24
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At the end when Osha woke up on the Jedi ship, Torbin was out of focus in the background with injuries to his face. A fight definitely went down and the Jedi probably killed them all and lied about it to cover it up.
Nice catch, I didn't see that. Must be the scar and the eye he he has when he's older.
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Considering the showrunner mentioned Rashoman as one of the biggest influences, I assume we are going to be revisiting this night from other POVs

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In reply to TCTTS • 12:06a, 6/12/24
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If so, part of me will welcome further context. Then again, if THAT was the moment this entire series hinges on and is going to keep returning to... ugh.
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In reply to TCTTS • 12:07a, 6/12/24
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TCTTS said:
Thunderstruck xx said:
Saw episode 3, and I have so many questions.

1. Why did the opening scene feel like I was watching an episode of Dino Dana? Can Disney not find better child actors?

2. Why did the twins look totally different as kids?

3. Why did the ascension ceremony music sound more like a Disney musical rather than Star Wars music?

4. Why did the Jedi say the witches could let the twins test to be Jedi with their permission, but then they had to come up with ways to fail the test anyway? Why not just tell the Jedi no?

5. Why is killing her sister Mae's solution to not wanting her sister to leave? That's worse than letting her leave, right?

1 - On a TV budget/timeline, finding twin black actors of a certain age who can actually act, and look like Amandla Stenberg, is a damn near impossible task. Which, again, is all the more reason not to make a full-length episode out of this particular flashback. They were just setting themselves up for failure.

5 - I'm actually going to agree with you on this one. After everything she said, having Mae's "solution" be to just kill her sister instead was so incredibly dumb/made absolutely no sense to me. There were a thousand other ways the filmmakers could have got to "fire kills everyone" and that one would have been last on my list.
You know if the Jedi are lying to Osha about what happened, the entire thing with Mae might very well be a Force-implanted memory. Young Osha only remembers she started the fire, and then the fire killed everyone. That part is obviously her POV. Maybe Mae burns her notebook and locks her in, but nothing in that fortress is catching fire from a few sheets of paper.

We're being thrown a smoke screen by the Jedi on what really happened.
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In reply to The Porkchop Express • 12:09a, 6/12/24
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You're probably right.

But the filmmakers asking us to believe this version for now is still kind of eye-rolling.
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In reply to The Porkchop Express • 12:12a, 6/12/24
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Cliff.Booth said:
This series is like a clown bus crashing through railing on a mountain pass and I just can't look away. Who in the F saw this and said, yeah, let's roll with this. Same level of perplexed mixed with sad mixed with amused that I walked out of SW episode 8 feeling.
And yet you keep watching it, which makes you Disney's de facto best customer - you think the product sucks, but you continue paying money to watch it.


Wait, are you paying to watch each episode? I get each episode as part of a streaming platform with lots of other content on it.
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In reply to Cliff.Booth • 12:33a, 6/12/24
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Cliff.Booth said:
The Porkchop Express said:
Cliff.Booth said:
This series is like a clown bus crashing through railing on a mountain pass and I just can't look away. Who in the F saw this and said, yeah, let's roll with this. Same level of perplexed mixed with sad mixed with amused that I walked out of SW episode 8 feeling.
And yet you keep watching it, which makes you Disney's de facto best customer - you think the product sucks, but you continue paying money to watch it.


Wait, are you paying to watch each episode? I get each episode as part of a streaming platform with lots of other content on it.


That is true. But the only way you could watch The Acolyte this evening would be to pay for a subscription to Disney Plus, which means you are paying to watch The Acolyte.
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In reply to TCTTS • 12:44a, 6/12/24
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TCTTS said:
Thunderstruck xx said:
Saw episode 3, and I have so many questions.

1. Why did the opening scene feel like I was watching an episode of Dino Dana? Can Disney not find better child actors?

2. Why did the twins look totally different as kids?

3. Why did the ascension ceremony music sound more like a Disney musical rather than Star Wars music?

4. Why did the Jedi say the witches could let the twins test to be Jedi with their permission, but then they had to come up with ways to fail the test anyway? Why not just tell the Jedi no?

5. Why is killing her sister Mae's solution to not wanting her sister to leave? That's worse than letting her leave, right?

1 - On a TV budget/timeline, finding twin black actors of a certain age who can actually act, and look like Amandla Stenberg, is a damn near impossible task. Which, again, is all the more reason not to make a full-length episode out of this particular flashback. They were just setting themselves up for failure.

5 - I'm actually going to agree with you on this one. After everything she said, having Mae's "solution" be to just kill her sister instead was so incredibly dumb/made absolutely no sense to me. There were a thousand other ways the filmmakers could have gotten to "fire kills everyone" and that one would have been last on my list.
I assume it was a heavy handed attempt to show Mae was the dark one, which they had done many times in the show.
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1:58a, 6/12/24
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Mae: I will have my revenge on the Jedi for killing my family!

Jedi: We didn't start the fire…
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In reply to TCTTS • 5:26a, 6/12/24
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I seriously cannot believe people are STILL misquoting her, and that we're STILL somehow having this conversation.

Good lord.

This has been litigated this to death, and you're exactly right.

It just goes to show that some people hear only what they want to hear in order to hate exactly who they want to hate.


Okay, how about this, referring to Frozen: "to make something like this that is, you know, for lack of a better term, Disney, meaning something that like my parents would have allowed me to see when I was younger as a queer person, that I would have been able to understand a queer person.""

But sure, tell me I'm paraphrasing incorrectly about how she was able to understand Frozen as a queer person.

Look, this show is what it is. She has stated her intent. Viewers shouldn't be surprised when she does what she says. How is that controversial?

Dude, come on.

You know the rest of us have access to the same internet, right? And can show that you conveniently left out the most pertinent part of the quote? Because here's the entire thing...

Quote:
"When I saw Frozen as a grown ass woman, I cried through the entire movie. There was just something about the relationship between the sisters, the like de-villainization of the classic kind of fairy tale 'bad guy,' you know, the concept of true love being between two sisters and not a heterosexual relationship. It just destroyed me, completely."

She continued, "And I thought, 'Gosh, I would love to make something like this, for lack of a better term, Disney.' Meaning something that like my parents would have allowed me to see when I was younger as a queer person, but I would have been able to understand as a queer person. And I think I would have had a completely different life. And so I really was inspired by it and was like, 'God, I would love to make a story like this.'"

In other words, with The Acolyte, Headland aimed to make a PLATONIC "love story" between TWO SISTERS. And that, essentially, as a kid, she assumed all love stories in movies/TV had to be between a man and a woman. But if she could have seen, at an early age, that not all love stories had to be between a man and a woman, and could instead, be between two sisters (as depicted in Frozen), she would have seen the world differently growing up, as a queer person.

Like, this isn't complicated.

It's super basic, in fact.

And again, just shows that you either blatantly ignored the most important part of her quote, or purposely left it out to try and score outrage points on the internet. Either way, it's in service of your own biases, and your desperate need to paint people like her in the worst light possible.


Hot Sports Opinion: The problem with Frozen isn't the relationship…but that the film kinda doesn't have a plot.
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5:26a, 6/12/24
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They've been developing this show for YEARS and THIS is what we get? More terrible child actors and platitudes about the force from cardboard characters? Also they've muddied everyone's motives so much that we don't know who we are rooting for and I don't like any of the characters. And we are more than 1/3 through the show. Regardless of whether this is an interesting story, it just feels like they are telling it in the most confounding way.

For instance, if it is Rashomon, then give each character an episode. Have them flash back to their piece of the story while moving the overall plot forward in the present, revealing new details each episode of the fire.

BUT does this event really have anything to do with what's going on in the present? It's Mae's murder motivation but she's also being trained and sent out by a Sith. Isn't that what we are all most interested in? So confused by taking a whole episode to tell us nothing new.

I don't hate the show, it's just disheartening that it's another underdeveloped show. Star Wars is treading water and they don't seem to be able to course correct and keep making the same mistakes.
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6:10a, 6/12/24
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Mae is a lot nicer now.

Tried to kill her sister by catching her on fire.

Killed two Jedis with a knife and poison.
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In reply to jokershady • 7:49a, 6/12/24
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jokershady said:
Per my usual I'll be watching tomorrow but…..wow……2.9 on IMDB for this episode…..granted that's only with 137 individual recorded scores…..compared to episode 1 with 8,583 scores and episode 2 with 7,608 scores…..

I watched the ratings of those 2 episodes and yes they were rated lower at the beginning….but not too much lower than where they finished…..episode 1 when I first looked was at 5.5 and now it's at a 6 and it was similar for episode 2…..

So I'm guessing this episode stays in the low 4s at best, but will likely stay in the 3s somewhere…..

Seeing for myself tomorrow
as i guessed...this shows ratings has gone up.....it was 4.3 earlier this morning and is currently at 4.2 with approximately 2,000 ratings....

the few randos who rated it before seeing it are now an insignificant statistic that will only become more so as more people who've seen it give their 1-10 opinion...

what's interesting though....and this is new to me because most of the time im looking at this on my phone and not on a computer....is they now do a regional breakdown of the ratings....

for example, in the United States:

4.9/10 overall (958 total ratings)
43.4% of all ratings were a 1
13.2% of all ratings were a 10

let's compare that to the UK:

3.3/10 overall (149 total ratings)
60.4% of all ratings were a 1
4.7% of all ratings were a 10

compare that to Australia:

3.4/10 (92 ratings)
63.0% of all ratings were a 1
10.9% of all ratings were a 10

compare that to Germany:

3.8/10 overall (60 ratings)
56.7% of all ratings were a 1
1.7% of all ratings were a 10

compare that to Canada:

4.8/10 overall (97 ratings)
44.3% of all ratings were a 1
8.2% of all ratings were a 10

So generally speaking, this episode is being received the best in the United States and worse everywhere else....which is kinda hilarious....

but currently it's overall average is 4.2 which is likely where it'll stay give or take a few points....could see it still dropping into the high 3s like i had guessed since it hasn't even been out 24 hours but usually after the first 2 days whatever it's rating it's pretty much gonna stay there....

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8:12a, 6/12/24
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Sorry to come off like a d-bag (standard I know), but what is the big deal about the IMDB rankings? Isn't it just easier to take 40 minutes, watch the show, and decide for yourself?
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In reply to The Porkchop Express • 8:16a, 6/12/24
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Sorry to come off like a d-bag (standard I know), but what is the big deal about the IMDB rankings? Isn't it just easier to take 40 minutes, watch the show, and decide for yourself?


It isn't usually a big deal because most movies or shows end up with something normal like a 5-8. It's only a big deal when something pulls off a 9-10 because it pleased its core audience THAT much or something ends up sub 4 because it pissed off its core audience THAT much.
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In reply to The Porkchop Express • 8:23a, 6/12/24
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The Porkchop Express said:
Sorry to come off like a d-bag (standard I know), but what is the big deal about the IMDB rankings? Isn't it just easier to take 40 minutes, watch the show, and decide for yourself?
honestly...it's not a big deal at all....at least no where near as big as say....how many views is a show getting....millions of minutes a show is watched....etc....

but it's just a simple method to see how it's being perceived by the public....just like rotten tomatoes....

but comments were being made early on about how low of a rating this 3rd episode got (starting at 2.9 when it was first being reported) and talk about it being so low ONLY because it was being review bombed and i was making the point that this happens a lot but it's easily missed/ignored....

i expected it to improve and it did thus making the few idiots that gave it 1's and 10's at the beginning without watching it meaningless numbers giving validity to the score it now has....

i was honestly more shocked at the amount of people that gave it a 10......to me that's even more telling that there's always going to be a small number of folks (trolls) on both sides that just want to make a point and could care less actually about what's in any show....

as another example, there was nearly 1,000 people that gave "The Rescue" from Mando S2 a score of 1....but it still has a 9.8 on IMDB.....

in summary...."review bombing" does nothing and the score with eventually reflect how the epsiodes/movies are generally received by the public
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In reply to veryfuller • 8:23a, 6/12/24
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veryfuller said:
They've been developing this show for YEARS and THIS is what we get? More terrible child actors and platitudes about the force from cardboard characters? Also they've muddied everyone's motives so much that we don't know who we are rooting for and I don't like any of the characters. And we are more than 1/3 through the show. Regardless of whether this is an interesting story, it just feels like they are telling it in the most confounding way.

For instance, if it is Rashomon, then give each character an episode. Have them flash back to their piece of the story while moving the overall plot forward in the present, revealing new details each episode of the fire.

BUT does this event really have anything to do with what's going on in the present? It's Mae's murder motivation but she's also being trained and sent out by a Sith. Isn't that what we are all most interested in? So confused by taking a whole episode to tell us nothing new.

I don't hate the show, it's just disheartening that it's another underdeveloped show. Star Wars is treading water and they don't seem to be able to course correct and keep making the same mistakes.
Based on the working theory by myself and a few others, what you saw last night was Osha's point of view of what happened during the time frame where the Jedi came to Brendok, she decided she didn't want to be a witch, and the events that destroyed her family and cast her lot with the Jedi.

I'd imagine the rest of the series shows us the other points of view and propels Osha to a place where she finds out the not-so-nice real version, and ultimately chooses her fate to be a Sith acolyte.

The more I watch parts of last night, the more convinced I am that the fire was utterly contained to Mae burning Osha's notebook, and the rest of the fortress didn't catch on fire at all, those were just images planted in Osha's head by the Jedi to cover up that the 4 of them wound up killing just about everybody she knows.

Everyone is welcome to their criticism of how they are telling the story, but it seems like the show has no shot to win you over when you're trashing the story without actually knowing what the story is.
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In reply to The Porkchop Express • 8:25a, 6/12/24
The Porkchop Express said:
Sorry to come off like a d-bag (standard I know), but what is the big deal about the IMDB rankings? Isn't it just easier to take 40 minutes, watch the show, and decide for yourself?

Probably for folks like me who want to see what everyone else thinks about the show first before I waste my time watching. Watched a few youtube reviews of the first episide before watching but even after all that I still watched the first two episodes. These rankings matter to weak minded such as myself.
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In reply to Cliff.Booth • 8:29a, 6/12/24
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The Porkchop Express said:
Sorry to come off like a d-bag (standard I know), but what is the big deal about the IMDB rankings? Isn't it just easier to take 40 minutes, watch the show, and decide for yourself?


It isn't usually a big deal because most movies or shows end up with something normal like a 5-8. It's only a big deal when something pulls off a 9-10 because it pleased its core audience THAT much or something ends up sub 4 because it pissed off its core audience THAT much.
agree, i have found the ratings to be a pretty reliable indicator of relative episode/season quality. even if there is some review bombing going on. the best example is what happened with game of thrones, i think this pretty closely matches public opinion about how the series went. it definitely matches my own thoughts.

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In reply to The Porkchop Express • 8:31a, 6/12/24
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Yeah, the more I've read/thought about it, we're definitely only seeing a sliver of one person's subjective recollection.
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In reply to TCTTS • 8:32a, 6/12/24
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TCTTS said:
If so, part of me will welcome further context. Then again, if THAT was the moment this entire series hinges on and is going to keep returning to... ugh.
I've been looking ahead without having watched the 3rd episode yet because...well honestly I could care less about getting spoiled with anything for this show and I already knew what was coming in this episode already I just hadn't seen it for myself...

BUT

The idea that we're going to come back to the scene that you and others have theorized I believe is 100% true and I think we're going to be given the missing pieces of information in episode number 5.

Was watching a video from Erik Voss who apparently had a chance to speak with Hedland and he had asked her opinion on what episode would be the most pivotal, gripping episode of the series and she said the number that I blacked out above.....so my guess is it'll be that episode where we get the answer on the other perspective(s) of what went down with the witches....
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In reply to jokershady • 8:34a, 6/12/24
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jokershady said:
The Porkchop Express said:
Sorry to come off like a d-bag (standard I know), but what is the big deal about the IMDB rankings? Isn't it just easier to take 40 minutes, watch the show, and decide for yourself?
honestly...it's not a big deal at all....at least no where near as big as say....how many views is a show getting....millions of minutes a show is watched....etc....

but it's just a simple method to see how it's being perceived by the public....just like rotten tomatoes....

but comments were being made early on about how low of a rating this 3rd episode got (starting at 2.9 when it was first being reported) and talk about it being so low ONLY because it was being review bombed and i was making the point that this happens a lot but it's easily missed/ignored....

i expected it to improve and it did thus making the few idiots that gave it 1's and 10's at the beginning without watching it meaningless numbers giving validity to the score it now has....

i was honestly more shocked at the amount of people that gave it a 10......to me that's even more telling that there's always going to be a small number of folks (trolls) on both sides that just want to make a point and could care less actually about what's in any show....

as another example, there was nearly 1,000 people that gave "The Rescue" from Mando S2 a score of 1....but it still has a 9.8 on IMDB.....

in summary...."review bombing" does nothing and the score with eventually reflect how the epsiodes/movies are generally received by the public
I would counter that unless you had a system like Amazon's verified book purchase one, most online reviews are worthless because you can't prove the person ranking the item is equipped to do so.

My case in point being that George RR Martin's "The Winds of Winter" currently has a rating of 4.4 on Goodreads with more than 12,000 votes. The one small problem being that book has not been released to the public..

It seems to me the # of review bombers would only grow for a show like this as time went on. Sure you have the extremists on both sides getting their 1s and 10s in, but as today and the next few days go on, and all of the people on X that need their coats stroked come down with their opinions on how the show is ruining America, surely that results in many more people going to trash the rating sight unseen?
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8:39a, 6/12/24
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I for one loved that the whole episode was a Montessori turf war.
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8:42a, 6/12/24
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I'm seeing some speculation out there that the twins' existence is what ultimately leads to Anakin. The witches found a way to create life without a man/father, Plagueis eventually gets wind of this, dabbles/experiments, which Palpatine then perfects, eventually creating Anakin.

If you believe that lore/theory, of course.

Regardless, I think we very well could be seeing the early beginnings of a chain reaction of some sort that ultimately, in some way, results in Anakin's immaculate conception.
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8:48a, 6/12/24
that one witch gave me vibes of that alien chick from Star Trek: Beyond with her makeup

I think they spent too much time giving all of that background about the witches before getting to the meat of the episode near the end. And the singing chanting was just a little bit corny. They did leave some holes in the story about how things went down in the end which they can revisit and fill in. I would say something around 5.5/10 for a rating.
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In reply to TCTTS • 8:50a, 6/12/24
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If they do that I hope they don't come right out and say it.

The biggest plus to me when this show was first being discussed was that it had no direct character connection to the other films or shows which to made at least made it unique and wouldn't tie in to the Skywalkers or anything else....
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8:53a, 6/12/24
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I don't work anywhere close to "the industry", figuratively or literally, and I wholeheartedly think the reviews on IMDB and Rottentomatoes are a joke. But then again I'm old enough not to get caught up in the social media world where I need to validate my feelings and thoughts by posting them online or conversely see what other people's thought are first in order to know how I feel about something.
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8:57a, 6/12/24
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Online review *numbers* are notoriously easily manipulated. Written out reviews that comment on the actual content of a show or movie are worth reading, imo.
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