*** GoT: House of the Dragon - Season 2***

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In reply to Mega Lops • 7:36p, 7/10/24
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Al Bula said:
Staff - feel free to delete my post. I do not agree with the casting choices in House of the Dragon because it is a Stark (pun intended) deviation from the source material. The Valyrians were well described in everything GRRM has written.

I understand some posters do not like bringing up anything from the books. If there needs to be a rule that we cannot have discussion comparing casting to source material, please make it known that commentary on how television differs from novels is verboten.

I'm not here to debate/argue/troll anything related to this show; only here to give opinions or criticism based on what I see. In fact, I find it completely worthless to argue with other posters and am only responding since Staff weighed in directly.

Cheers and enjoy the show!

It's not verboten but complaining about the casting choices 2 seasons in is pretty much this......




Move on. Nobody cares. Also not arguing with you about it because it is what it is. Only you keep bringing it up. staff should have nuked it imo.
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9:27p, 7/10/24
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In reply to PatAg • 9:47p, 7/10/24
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PatAg said:
Go to the spoiler thread to discuss anything related to the book.
For the people that dont get it
https://texags.com/forums/13/topics/3314372
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In reply to Cibalo • 10:00p, 7/10/24
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Cibalo said:
I understand that was her mindset but the way she went about it seemed careless. I would have thought she would have much more dragon battle skill tactics. Especially when the enemy is much stronger.

I do think she probably would (or should) have known more even on an academic level, but how much experience in battle does she really have? Dragons haven't fought one another in a while. Any fighting they've done has been against ground forces with the biggest threat likely being ballistas (and archers for the rider). I doubt Rhaenys specifically would have done much fighting either as a royal and a woman.
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12:29a, 7/11/24
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Why would any of them have experience fighting against another person on a dragon? There had never been a rift like this before in all the time since Aegon came to Westeros.
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In reply to The Porkchop Express • 11:09a, 7/11/24
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The Porkchop Express said:
Why would any of them have experience fighting against another person on a dragon? There had never been a rift like this before in all the time since Aegon came to Westeros.


Yep. Technically the only dragon-on-dragon battle took place 90 years ago in universe and not with the same dragons involved here. Maegor the Cruel killed one of his nephews while riding Balerion.

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In reply to The Porkchop Express • 12:44p, 7/11/24
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The Porkchop Express said:
Why would any of them have experience fighting against another person on a dragon? There had never been a rift like this before in all the time since Aegon came to Westeros.


Well

Aemond did get a little practice at the end of last season when he did the chomp on Lucious.
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In reply to LB12Diamond • 12:54p, 7/11/24
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LB12Diamond said:
The Porkchop Express said:
Why would any of them have experience fighting against another person on a dragon? There had never been a rift like this before in all the time since Aegon came to Westeros.


Well

Aemond did get a little practice at the end of last season when he did the chomp on Lucious.
Right, but that was the first. I think they did a great job of him looking stunned by the result, because he thought the dragon would deliver his intent, not take the lead.
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2:26p, 7/11/24
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Vhagar is an old, experienced dragon. I doubt Aemond has much control over her.
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In reply to zap • 5:15p, 7/11/24
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It's was actually the young inexperienced dragon, not controlling him that did the fire which ended up getting Lucious killed in the end.

And Rhaenys could have left the battle.

And Aegon should not have even been there but he's stupid.

So one could say they all did things that hurt them more than Aemond's fault.

Or heck it all stems them being *******s. So actually the black queens fault.
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3:03a, 7/12/24
Some recognizable faces from the GoT days…

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12:05p, 7/12/24
Anyone else notice that Game of Thrones first 10 episodes had

much grander scope, larger armies, more battles, more characters, more extras, more action than first 10 episodes of House of the Dragon?

way too many scenes of 2 actors talking to each other in a room or outside shooting arrows.
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In reply to LMCane • 12:39p, 7/12/24
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LMCane said:
Anyone else notice that Game of Thrones first 10 episodes had

much grander scope, larger armies, more battles, more characters, more extras, more action than first 10 episodes of House of the Dragon?

way too many scenes of 2 actors talking to each other in a room or outside shooting arrows.


Some of the best scenes were were simply dialogue of two.
The Hound & Arya???
Tyrion & Varys???
Tyrion & Some of the best scenes were were simply dialogue of two. GOT
The Hound & Arya???
Tyrion & Varys???
Tyrion & anyone
Peter & Sansa
Jaime & Brianne of Tarth
Arya & faceless man

There are so many scenes & storylines with simply 2 people. And they were reasons the show was great minus the ending.
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In reply to LMCane • 12:42p, 7/12/24
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LMCane said:
Anyone else notice that Game of Thrones first 10 episodes had

much grander scope, larger armies, more battles, more characters, more extras, more action than first 10 episodes of House of the Dragon?

way too many scenes of 2 actors talking to each other in a room or outside shooting arrows.

If memory serves, the only battle in the first 2 seasons is the Battle of the Blackwater at the end of season 2. Other battles happen off screen.

There were more characters involved, but this is a much more focused story/conflict than GoT. I do wish we had a bit more of people like Larys, but they are likely going to keep introducing new characters as things scale up to full on war.
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In reply to LMCane • 1:17p, 7/12/24
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LMCane said:
Anyone else notice that Game of Thrones first 10 episodes had

much grander scope, larger armies, more battles, more characters, more extras, more action than first 10 episodes of House of the Dragon?

way too many scenes of 2 actors talking to each other in a room or outside shooting arrows.


Did we watch different shows? GoT S1 had a much smaller scale than the rest of the series. Much smaller sets, barely any shots of King's Landing (they weren't in Croatia yet), no onscreen battles...

Don't get me wrong, it was a great season, but large scale it wasn't. Everything about HOTD S1 was bigger and better in terms of sets, costumes, and scale.
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In reply to Brian Earl Spilner • 1:21p, 7/12/24
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Brian Earl Spilner said:
LMCane said:
Anyone else notice that Game of Thrones first 10 episodes had

much grander scope, larger armies, more battles, more characters, more extras, more action than first 10 episodes of House of the Dragon?

way too many scenes of 2 actors talking to each other in a room or outside shooting arrows.


Did we watch different shows? GoT S1 had a much smaller scale than the rest of the series. Much smaller sets, barely any shots of King's Landing (they weren't in Croatia yet), no onscreen battles...

Don't get me wrong, it was a great season, but large scale it wasn't. Everything about HOTD S1 was bigger and better in terms of sets, costumes, and scale.


GOT is 8 seasons long. Dragons is only 1 1/2 so far
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In reply to emando2000 • 1:22p, 7/12/24
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He specifically mentioned season 1.
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1:27p, 7/12/24
To me, what this show is missing is Tyrion and Arya. Both offered a lot of humor that we haven't seen in HotD so far. Additionally, both travelled a lot and that allowed us to see much more about how the common people were dealing with things. Arya's story, specifically, rarely dealt with the Nobles. Their travels showed us much more of Westeros instead of just sticking to King's Landing and Winterfell.
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1:31p, 7/12/24
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GRRM talked about how the biggest regret he had about S1 was how they didn't have money to show what an actual royal hunting party should look like, and they were finally able to do it right in HOTD.

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In reply to LMCane • 2:17p, 7/12/24
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LMCane said:
Anyone else notice that Game of Thrones first 10 episodes had

much grander scope, larger armies, more battles, more characters, more extras, more action than first 10 episodes of House of the Dragon?

way too many scenes of 2 actors talking to each other in a room or outside shooting arrows.
This a troll post?

House of the Dragon S1 literally one-upped S1 of GoT in every sense in terms of scope. The jousting in HotD is grander. The royal hunt in HotD is grander. The battles in HotD are grander - very literally because GoT's first season had only one offscreen battle. The dragons are grander in HotD. The sets are far better. List goes on.

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In reply to Mega Lops • 2:18p, 7/12/24
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Al Bula said:
Sunfyre, Dreamfyre, sea smoke… it's not as cringe as making black people be valyrians because diversity quotient, but it is close.

[We would have deleted this post but since posters are replying to it and quoting it instead of just using the flag option we are going to assume that posters want it on the thread. -Staff]
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In reply to LMCane • 9:47p, 7/12/24
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LMCane said:
Anyone else notice that Game of Thrones first 10 episodes had

much grander scope, larger armies, more battles, more characters, more extras, more action than first 10 episodes of House of the Dragon?

way too many scenes of 2 actors talking to each other in a room or outside shooting arrows.
I wouldn't consider this a spoiler, but my comments below are discussing the book, so I'll add spoiler tags just in case some don't want to read it:

In terms of scale, I suspect this is due to having much less book material to draw from. I'm currently reading "Fire and Blood". The events of the first season of HOTD don't begin until about halfway through the book. I'm roughly 200 pages past that now and I'm at a point where I think Season 2 will likely end.

If I'm right, that means that 2 entire seasons were created based off roughly 200 pages of text. I have not read the novellas, though, so there could be much more to draw from in those. In comparison, S1 of GOT lined up with the entire book, which was about 700 pages.

"Fire and Blood" is written as a history book and, honestly, I've found it to be pretty boring. The show is doing a really good job of adding "color" to a historical text and I'm really enjoying it. WIth GOT, the books were much better than the show. It is the opposite with HOTD so far, IMO.
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In reply to LMCane • 5:24a, 7/13/24
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LMCane said:
Anyone else notice that Game of Thrones first 10 episodes had

much grander scope, larger armies, more battles, more characters, more extras, more action than first 10 episodes of House of the Dragon?

way too many scenes of 2 actors talking to each other in a room or outside shooting arrows.

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10:31a, 7/14/24
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I laugh every time I see these.

https://instagr.am/p/C9QimiuSw1S
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12:38p, 7/14/24
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Was on vacation last week, so finally watched Ep 4 this morning. I am surprised at anyone thinking Aemond planned to have Aegon come to that battle. It should have been obvious when he yelled "idiot" that he was both surprised and pissed.

I understand the complaint about Rhaenys flying so low and losing her vantage, but I think she had to go down to see what happened to Vhaghar b/c of the smoke and dust. Once she realized he wasn't down there she looks up and around, and probably should have started to climb, but maybe it happened too fast? The real issue, for me, is that it appeared Vhaghar come over the cliff at the perfect moment, but he also should have been blind to where Meleys was flying. So, chalk that one up to happening for the sake of drama.

When Cole finally got to where Aegon fell, I was expecting to see him lying on top of the dragon with it's arms holding him in place, as if to imply it used it's own body to protect. I have no idea if he's dead or not, but I assumed he would still be.

I agree that I'm not a huge fan of Daemon just sitting around and letting himself be drugged. I always thought he was a little smarter than that, even though he has always been temperamental and rash.

One potential thing that could be interesting, if they go this way, is have Alicent's brother take credit for that victory and have him throw more shade at Cole for nearly screwing them all up. Doubt it, since Aemond would probably just kill him.

I kind of want to see more from Rhaenyra's son, he has the youthful need to act like Aegon, but he's much more able to listen to advice.

Pretty good episode. Glad I don't have to wait long between episodes this week.
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8:06p, 7/14/24
Previously on…show scene from the North. Yes, we might get to see the North again
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8:59p, 7/14/24
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It's getting hard for me to see a path for team black - they can't even raise an army.

They better claim a badass unclaimed dragon….
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9:05p, 7/14/24
I didn't think Targs could burn?
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Thisguy1 said:
I didn't think Targs could burn?

That's just a special Dany thing.
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9:08p, 7/14/24
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Not the best episode, especially following last week, but it looks like next week may be another good one.
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9:12p, 7/14/24
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Just finished. Based on that last part with Jace and the Queen. They are going to look for other dragon riders.

I have a guess. That one character they keep showing in Kings landing must have Targ blood.
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In reply to LB12Diamond • 9:13p, 7/14/24
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LB12Diamond said:
Just finished. Based on that last part with Jace and the Queen. They are going to look for other dragon riders.

I have a guess. That one character they keep showing in Kings landing must have Targ blood.


Are you talking about the light haired blacksmith?
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In reply to Aggie_2463 • 9:14p, 7/14/24
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Yes

Spending a lot of screen time on him so I think he's going to play a bigger part.
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