I think it's a very high likelihood. Although I wonder about the plan to ship Rhaenyra's youngin's to Pentos, since we (now) know that 3 of her dragon eggs end up across the sea and with Daenerys in the next 200 years. Is Rhaena just gonna let them go alone?Josepi said:I assumed that they are setting Rhaena Targaryen to capture and ride the wild dragon. They mentioned in the episode that no dragon had accepted her, and then she gets shipped off and is in close prox to a wild one? Too coincidental.Old Tom Morris said:
It's wild vs just riderless, so as I understand it, none of those 3
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When Rhaenyra and Laenor were discussing marriage, Rhaenyra made the analogy that some folks like duck and others prefer goose, or something like that. I guess tastes change....
I'm getting a little bored with the storyline. They seem to just be "dragon" things out to extend the seasons. They're going to lose some followers if they're not careful. I can't take much more of the Daemon at Harrenhal dream.
I'm getting a little bored with the storyline. They seem to just be "dragon" things out to extend the seasons. They're going to lose some followers if they're not careful. I can't take much more of the Daemon at Harrenhal dream.
For everyone else - dude is a former Steeler and one of the more entertaining woodworkers out there. Does some crazy stuff like this, some tool pallet buys that are pretty cool, and follows some of his builds in his day to day workshop. He's on my shortlist also.jokershady said:
way...way...WAY behind on everything that is GoT.....but i follow this guy on youtube and figured those who are interested would get a kick out of this table and how he made it look from the show....
I think the contrast between HotD where we have consistency in the ruling family vs GoT where the reign of the kings was inconsistent is the best thing about the show. The middle of the season has been... a let down.
I guess it makes sense that we end up with a lot of fanfic since GRRM left the documenting of the Dance of Dragons to the maesters and Mushroom.
Rhaenyra and Mysaria: giving off vibes of HRC and Huma 100%
And yeah it sucks that Daemon is being neutered. What a travesty for a promising character but I think it will get better.
Lastly, why did HotD rip off Hiccup and Toothless?!
I guess it makes sense that we end up with a lot of fanfic since GRRM left the documenting of the Dance of Dragons to the maesters and Mushroom.
Rhaenyra and Mysaria: giving off vibes of HRC and Huma 100%
And yeah it sucks that Daemon is being neutered. What a travesty for a promising character but I think it will get better.
Lastly, why did HotD rip off Hiccup and Toothless?!
This is exactly how I'm feeling. I fall asleep with Daemon's storyline and actually Rhaenyra's also - she went from a pretty strong character to spending an entire season feeling bad no one respects her.mandevilleag said:
When Rhaenyra and Laenor were discussing marriage, Rhaenyra made the analogy that some folks like duck and others prefer goose, or something like that. I guess tastes change....
I'm getting a little bored with the storyline. They seem to just be "dragon" things out to extend the seasons. They're going to lose some followers if they're not careful. I can't take much more of the Daemon at Harrenhal dream.
Was thinking about GoT early seasons. You can make it advance the plot or make it really entertaining, but you better do one or the other. I had no idea why I would care about Bronn, but he was interesting. Same for the Hound. There was plot, even if it wasn't the main plot.
I loved Daemon in season 1, but the story is so uninteresting to show the most interesting character doing the same thing (nothing) for 3 episodes in a row. It's still the only show that is appointment viewing for me, so I still want to see it...but it better change fast.
Diggity said:I'm in the same boat. I don't have any characters I really care that much abouteasttexasaggie04 said:
I don't dislike this show...it's just that none of the characters are super interesting. All the Targ kids kinda look the same. It just seems kinda boring.
if someone is super into Shakespeare and listening to a few people soliloquy within a dark and dank room this is the show for them.
if you are used to seeing massive armies clash and plot twists and turns like Red Wedding- this series is pretty boring and pales in comparison to GOT
LMCane said:Diggity said:I'm in the same boat. I don't have any characters I really care that much abouteasttexasaggie04 said:
I don't dislike this show...it's just that none of the characters are super interesting. All the Targ kids kinda look the same. It just seems kinda boring.
if someone is super into Shakespeare and listening to a few people soliloquy within a dark and dank room this is the show for them.
if you are used to seeing massive armies clash and plot twists and turns like Red Wedding- this series is pretty boring and pales in comparison to GOT
Every episode of GoT had battles or crazy events like the Red Wedding
This of Arya and the Hound, Prep for Battle of the Blackwater, Jeoffrey's tirades. Most battles in the first season were offscreen, although there were a few 1 on 1 fights. No dragons, no supernatural except the first episode. Even the Dothraki were less about action and more about just stuff happening.PatAg said:LMCane said:Diggity said:I'm in the same boat. I don't have any characters I really care that much abouteasttexasaggie04 said:
I don't dislike this show...it's just that none of the characters are super interesting. All the Targ kids kinda look the same. It just seems kinda boring.
if someone is super into Shakespeare and listening to a few people soliloquy within a dark and dank room this is the show for them.
if you are used to seeing massive armies clash and plot twists and turns like Red Wedding- this series is pretty boring and pales in comparison to GOT
Every episode of GoT had battles or crazy events like the Red Wedding
The last couple of episodes just didn't give us enough plot or entertainment. Too many scenes trying to convey the same thing that aren't that interesting in the first place.
I'm just grumpy after an episode that wasn't great after jonesing for it for a week.
PatAg said:LMCane said:Diggity said:I'm in the same boat. I don't have any characters I really care that much abouteasttexasaggie04 said:
I don't dislike this show...it's just that none of the characters are super interesting. All the Targ kids kinda look the same. It just seems kinda boring.
if someone is super into Shakespeare and listening to a few people soliloquy within a dark and dank room this is the show for them.
if you are used to seeing massive armies clash and plot twists and turns like Red Wedding- this series is pretty boring and pales in comparison to GOT
Every episode of GoT had battles or crazy events like the Red Wedding
It wasn't that action packed. Especially not the first 4 or 5 seasons.
GOT benefitted from having like 6 concurrent storylines that they jumped in and out of. HOTD is just one main conflict.
I remember people complaining about how long it was taking Dani to get across the Narrow Sea and start wrecking shop. Then it actually happened…we know the rest
That's really all it is. GoT was this complex story of a whole bunch of characters and the storylines sometimes didn't intersect for huge chunks of time. There was mystery, and buildup and subtlety and all of those things that make great shows great. This show doesn't have any of that.
That said, it's mostly fine. It's like a dumb summer blockbuster cosplaying in Game of Thrones costumes, but that's okay, it's a fun watch. It's just not the same kind of watch.
That said, it's mostly fine. It's like a dumb summer blockbuster cosplaying in Game of Thrones costumes, but that's okay, it's a fun watch. It's just not the same kind of watch.
The recent episode was a bit of a drag, but at least Daemon may actually do something now. Also, does anyone else think that the woman in the Vale is being a giant c word to Rhaena?
Personally I thought Daemon's scenes were great on Sunday. Matt Smith and Paddy Considine play off each other really well.
I can't take her seriously with her humongous neck, but yeah. She's obviously butthurt that Rhaenyra didn't send her a real dragon and dragon rider to watch after the Vale.redline248 said:
The recent episode was a bit of a drag, but at least Daemon may actually do something now. Also, does anyone else think that the woman in the Vale is being a giant c word to Rhaena?
I don't remember if it was further discussed but it sounded like she was holding off on sending her army to join Rhaenyra's.
What's hurt the last two episodes is the only truly intriguing character left is stuck in a dream at harrinhall.
King V and his sister were two of the best characters along with Daemon.
GOT had so many great characters it was not lacking them, no matter who they killed off. When 2/3 of the best ones are already gone, it makes it hard.
King V and his sister were two of the best characters along with Daemon.
GOT had so many great characters it was not lacking them, no matter who they killed off. When 2/3 of the best ones are already gone, it makes it hard.
canadiaggie said:I can't take her seriously with her humongous neck, but yeah. She's obviously butthurt that Rhaenyra didn't send her a real dragon and dragon rider to watch after the Vale.redline248 said:
The recent episode was a bit of a drag, but at least Daemon may actually do something now. Also, does anyone else think that the woman in the Vale is being a giant c word to Rhaena?
I don't remember if it was further discussed but it sounded like she was holding off on sending her army to join Rhaenyra's.
I mean, can you blame her? I thought it was kid of insulting sending baby ones when she obviously wanted a full grown one.
And what's up with one already being there? Is that her dragon or is it terrorizing the vale and she wanted a grown dragon to fight it? I didn't understand that part.
Brian Earl Spilner said:
Seems we're building towards an Aemond vs Daemon dragonfight / swordfight in Harrenhal to end the season.
Then again, they've already told us Daemon will die in Harrenhal and GoT/HotD is rarely this predictable, so I'm sure something unexpected happens.
But if we do get that showdown, pretty much a given Aemond kills Daemon. Hoping it's at least an awesome fight if so.
I couldn't be surprised if the season finale cuts right before those two are about to fight
oh for sure that scene was great. I think the gripe here is that Daemon is stuck in the doldrums and not really progressing any story arc.canadiaggie said:
Personally I thought Daemon's scenes were great on Sunday. Matt Smith and Paddy Considine play off each other really well.
I suppose one could argue that Daemon's personal arc could be beneficial to the actual story. Like, maybe he's losing his selfish ambition through these dreams and will be fully recommitted to Rhaenyra?
I guess I would have liked to see that happen in 1 fewer episode, though.
I guess I would have liked to see that happen in 1 fewer episode, though.
The Daemon scenes have gotten tiresome unless the witch lady is in them. He went from a pretty interesting story line to uninteresting and kind of annoying.
Yeah I think the issue isn't that Daemon is dealing with his inner demons and fighting with right and wrong. It's that we don't necessarily need to see him interact with every person he's wronged. We get what the writers/directors are going for, now it's just dwelling on the topic.
Yep it's interpretive fanfic. Same with the Velaryons.
Needs to get better quick or this show burns up quicker than Steffon Darklyn trying to mount a dragon with a super cringe name.
Needs to get better quick or this show burns up quicker than Steffon Darklyn trying to mount a dragon with a super cringe name.
Again, this show has all of the subtlety of a Marvel movie, if something or someone appears for any amount of screen time, it's basically a guarantee it's going to have a major impact the core storyline within about 90 screen minutes.Phrasing said:
And what's up with one already being there? Is that her dragon or is it terrorizing the vale and she wanted a grown dragon to fight it? I didn't understand that part.
Was actually surprised by the restraint the show had in letting the Velaryan *******s get established as characters for a few episodes before a dragon went to find them.
Rhaena, who doesn't have a dragon, hates being in the Vale and has now found out there's a big wild dragon there, I'm willing to bet she's riding that dragon within two episodes.
I also assume the blacksmith guy that we've been tracking all season is going to kill someone important soon or something.
Part of what makes the Daemon scenes really drag is that, everywhere else, this show has not bothered with worrying about how long things take.
When you consider what else has gone on since he's been at Harrenhal he's probably been there for several months, and yet he's still kind of half in a fever dream all the time. And not a whole lot has actually happened until now.
When you consider what else has gone on since he's been at Harrenhal he's probably been there for several months, and yet he's still kind of half in a fever dream all the time. And not a whole lot has actually happened until now.
Would you rather random characters just show up unannounced and play major roles, or on the flip side, them spend time on random characters and they do nothing?bobinator said:Again, this show has all of the subtlety of a Marvel movie, if something or someone appears for any amount of screen time, it's basically a guarantee it's going to have a major impact the core storyline within about 90 screen minutes.Phrasing said:
And what's up with one already being there? Is that her dragon or is it terrorizing the vale and she wanted a grown dragon to fight it? I didn't understand that part.
Was actually surprised by the restraint the show had in letting the Velaryan *******s get established as characters for a few episodes before a dragon went to find them.
Rhaena, who doesn't have a dragon, hates being in the Vale and has now found out there's a big wild dragon there, I'm willing to bet she's riding that dragon within two episodes.
I also assume the blacksmith guy that we've been tracking all season is going to kill someone important soon or something.
Using the blacksmith guy as an example. If he just came out of nowhere and killed the queen, you would be...WTF? Or if he took 20 minutes of screen time and did nothing...WTF? (I'm not saying he is going to kill the queen. I have no idea what he will do, but yeah, it's obviously something)
I'm just comparing it to Game of Thrones, where a character could be introduced and impact some of the side plots in the show for a while before they really take center stage. That's part of why the "twists" in Game of Thrones were so good is there were so many interesting pieces on the board that had been established and could be used in various ways.
On these threads you had all kinds of theories, all of which could possibly be true and many times none of them were and something else even more surprising-yet-plausible happened.
On these threads you had all kinds of theories, all of which could possibly be true and many times none of them were and something else even more surprising-yet-plausible happened.
Hey - he chopped like 7 pieces of wood in Ep 5 and put them in a wheelbarrow. Then apparently got a blister and had to get taped up by the barn owl.bobinator said:
Part of what makes the Daemon scenes really drag is that, everywhere else, this show has not bothered with worrying about how long things take.
When you consider what else has gone on since he's been at Harrenhal he's probably been there for several months, and yet he's still kind of half in a fever dream all the time. And not a whole lot has actually happened until now.
Does anyone else think that the woman from the Vale (can't recall her name or affiliation) is potentially a dragon rider? It will take some explanation on how she came into the bloodline that would make it possible, but she is way too coy with her knowledge a dragon in the Vale prior to the arrival of Rhaena… oh that? that's just a wild dragon, these are not the droids you are looking for.
Logic dictates that Rhaena will, at some time in the immediate future, stumble across said wild dragon and it will bind to her… but that seems too obvious. Maybe GRRM took the easy way in this instance. I'm betting it gets sorted out in the next episode.
Logic dictates that Rhaena will, at some time in the immediate future, stumble across said wild dragon and it will bind to her… but that seems too obvious. Maybe GRRM took the easy way in this instance. I'm betting it gets sorted out in the next episode.
That character is confusing, but my current guess is that she knew of the wild dragon and that's why she wanted a big dragon to protect the vale (which famously otherwise doesn't need protecting) but she didn't want to say that because it could put one of the dragons in danger and they wouldn't have agreed to that. (Edit to say that her knowing about it isn't a guess, we know she knew about it, but guessing that's why she didn't say anything about it.)
But yeah, odds of Rhaena riding that dragon are like 99.5%.
But yeah, odds of Rhaena riding that dragon are like 99.5%.
Isn't it funny that Rhaena is going to be that dragon rider and she was just sent off by Rhaenyra who is desperately trying to find dragon riders.
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Two episodes ago, the tone of this thread was really different. Here's hoping they correct things in the next episode.
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Two episodes ago, the tone of this thread was really different. Here's hoping they correct things in the next episode.
I think criticism leads to more discussion so it can make it seem like we're overly negative, so wanted to take a second for one thing that I did like in this episode:
The scene with Aemond running the small council was good. Each of the people on the council are coming with their own perspectives, each of them has justifications to think they're view is correct, he is disagreeing with all of them and some of them thinks its youthful impetuousness, and yet, from what we know, he's the most correct.
In kind of a "firstest with the mostest" way, the faster they can attack Harrenhal, the better off they're going to be. The longer Daemon has to raise an army and Rhaenyra has to find dragon riders the worse it gets for the green army, even though they don't really know that.
I thought all of that interplay was pretty good.
The scene with Aemond running the small council was good. Each of the people on the council are coming with their own perspectives, each of them has justifications to think they're view is correct, he is disagreeing with all of them and some of them thinks its youthful impetuousness, and yet, from what we know, he's the most correct.
In kind of a "firstest with the mostest" way, the faster they can attack Harrenhal, the better off they're going to be. The longer Daemon has to raise an army and Rhaenyra has to find dragon riders the worse it gets for the green army, even though they don't really know that.
I thought all of that interplay was pretty good.
The one mistake Aemond made there was having Lorys go find Otto. Lorys is likely to just kill him when he does find him.
Also, I think he got rid of Cole b/c he's afraid he'll tell someone what he did to Aegon. Or was Cole unconscious at that point?
Also, I think he got rid of Cole b/c he's afraid he'll tell someone what he did to Aegon. Or was Cole unconscious at that point?
On the Otto thing, odds are pretty high that Cole's army shows up to Harrenhal but is about to be defeated by Daemon at which point Otto shows up with another army and saves the day? Almost certain to happen?
Cole saw him pull his sword to finish Aegon. Aemond also knows Cole is banging his mom and he's trying to eliminate her influence, so you marginalize him at the same time to marginalize her. You don't leave the two of them together in the council and in Kings Landing to conspire against you
It could be worse. They could put GRR Martin in charge of it.C@LAg said:
really wish they would film seasons 3 and 4 back to back so they could be released yearly.
just ridiculous we are going to have to wait 2 years for season 3 and likely another 2 for season 4.
it is a much smaller story than GOT, with fewer characters and locations than GOT.
if they could get out 10 episodes every year fo 5 or 6 years , this show should be able to do so with 8.
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