*** Masters of the Air ***

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10:14p, 10/5/23
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Finally has a release date. January 26th. Been looking forward to this for what feels like a decade. The air war in Europe is never talked about. Gonna be streaming on Apple TV

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11:21p, 10/5/23
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Is this an AppleTV exclusive? Hope not.
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In reply to Teacher_Ag • 12:28a, 10/6/23
Yes, it is just streaming on AppleTV.
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6:45a, 10/6/23
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I hate to get my hopes up. I remember when it was supposed to be released in September. On the other hand I'm happy there is an actual date this time.

I'm a little suprised that with the writer's strike going on they didn't push for a pre-Christmas release.
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6:56a, 10/6/23
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I choose to believe this release date will stick.

I loved both Band of Brothers and The Pacific, but Masters of the Air is speaking to my life-long love of WWII aviation. The book is must-reading for anyone with an interest in that part of the war.

I'm looking forward to this with about the same fervor that I had for Return of the Jedi or Avengers Infinity War + Endgame.
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7:28a, 10/6/23
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Gonna be lots of husbands asking for Appletv for Christmas. Smart marketing.
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10:31a, 10/6/23
at least with BOB they were advancing and crushing the Germans all the time

this is going to be brutal simply watching Americans crash and burn and knock down a few Messerschmitt BF109s or ****e-Wolf 190s



Nazis knew how to build aircraft
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10:48a, 10/6/23
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I hope they manage to get Chuck Yeager's exploits into the show. That was my biggest surprise chapter from the book. Somehow his WW2 exploits had escaped me.
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In reply to arrow • 10:50a, 10/6/23
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arrow said:
I hope they manage to get Chuck Yeager's exploits into the show. That was my biggest surprise chapter from the book. Somehow his WW2 exploits had escaped me.
Yeagar was a badass.
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In reply to Cinco Ranch Aggie • 10:55a, 10/6/23
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Absolutely.

For me, the three standouts from the book were Chuck Yeagar, Albert Speer, and Robert Rosenthal.
Very dense read but i'm glad I got through it. Very interested in how they adapt it to screen.

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In reply to Cinco Ranch Aggie • 10:56a, 10/6/23
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Masters of the Air is speaking to my life-long love of WWII aviation. The book is must-reading for anyone with an interest in that part of the war.
Have you ever been to the Pima Air Museum in Tucson? There is an entire museum dedicated to the 390th Bombardment Group (and the B-17) co-located there.

It's a great look at the lives of the crew members and the missions they flew. I could have stayed all day.

https://www.390th.org/
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In reply to EclipseAg • 11:03a, 10/6/23
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That museum is on my bucket list to visit. Been to many around the country, most notably Pensacola and the National Air & Space Museum but also smaller museums. Also really want to get to Dayton, Ohio for the Air Force museum.
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In reply to LMCane • 11:04a, 10/6/23
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LMCane said:
Nazis knew how to build aircraft


They knew how to throw a lot of **** to the wall and see what stuck. They also tried to make coal powered bombers and wooden rocket planes , and one that crashed so cool it became a Led Zeppelin album cover.
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In reply to average_joker • 11:21a, 10/6/23
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Gonna be lots of husbands asking for Appletv for Christmas. Smart marketing.

Isn't it like $6 a month? I hate to break it to you, but if you need to get that as a gift from your wife then you've got some issues that need addressing first.
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11:51a, 10/6/23
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Really looking forward to this series.

My great-uncle flew P-38's and P-51's with the 479th over Europe escorting bombers. I think this series will provide more of a glimpse into what he experienced and witnessed. Some of the few writings we have from his time over there described what it was like seeing these massive bombers helplessly blown from the sky...I can't even imagine.
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In reply to Cinco Ranch Aggie • 12:10p, 10/6/23
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That museum is on my bucket list to visit. Been to many around the country, most notably Pensacola and the National Air & Space Museum but also smaller museums. Also really want to get to Dayton, Ohio for the Air Force museum.
I'd also highly recommend The Museum of Flight in Seattle. They have a fantastic collection of WWI & WW2 aircraft.
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In reply to EclipseAg • 1:02p, 10/6/23
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EclipseAg said:
Cinco Ranch Aggie said:
Masters of the Air is speaking to my life-long love of WWII aviation. The book is must-reading for anyone with an interest in that part of the war.
Have you ever been to the Pima Air Museum in Tucson? There is an entire museum dedicated to the 390th Bombardment Group (and the B-17) co-located there.

It's a great look at the lives of the crew members and the missions they flew. I could have stayed all day.

https://www.390th.org/
It is legit awesome. It's a shame they can't do the bus tours of the boneyard anymore too. That made for a killer combo. But Pima is absolutely worth the time. I could have spent days there.
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2:01p, 10/6/23
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Y'all may not know there's a nice little museum in Mt Pleasant TX of all places. The people there are extremely nice.

https://midamericaflightmuseum.com/
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In reply to Cinco Ranch Aggie • 2:22p, 10/6/23
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Cinco Ranch Aggie said:
arrow said:
I hope they manage to get Chuck Yeager's exploits into the show. That was my biggest surprise chapter from the book. Somehow his WW2 exploits had escaped me.
Yeagar was a badass.



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In reply to Cinco Ranch Aggie • 3:02p, 10/6/23
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I've been to all of those and they're all incredible. Pima has one of my Kiowas from Afghanistan. When I was there last summer there were a couple of vets that had crewed B-17s talking about them.
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In reply to aggieactor01 • 3:17p, 10/6/23
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But Pima is absolutely worth the time. I could have spent days there.
Even my wife loved it, and she has no interest in aviation or World War II. We spent way more time there than I imagined we would. The B-17 museum was fascinating -- a perfect blend of human interest and aviation details.
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In reply to Cinco Ranch Aggie • 4:08p, 10/6/23
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Cinco Ranch Aggie said:
That museum is on my bucket list to visit. Been to many around the country, most notably Pensacola and the National Air & Space Museum but also smaller museums. Also really want to get to Dayton, Ohio for the Air Force museum.
Eighth AF museum in Savannah is excellent
https://www.mightyeighth.org/
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5:22p, 10/6/23
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Only WWII Ace I ever met was Joe Foss at the Midland CAF AirSho in the late 1990s.
What honor to meet too.
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5:27p, 10/6/23
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I grew up going to church with a gentleman that was a tail gunner (iirc) on Jimmy Stewart's plane. What those guys went through is incomprehensible to me. I can't imagine the physical hardships and the mental terror they went through
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5:39p, 10/6/23
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The only such gentleman I ever met was the guy who hired my dad at Shell in the 60s. His last name was Grabowski, my dad called him Grabo, and he had been a waist gunner on a B-17 based in England.

I remember a story where his original Flying Fortress had taken a beating. They made it back to the channel but the beaten up old girl had given all she had. Everyone bailed out, and that B-17 ended up at the bottom of the English channel. He got assigned to another Fortress and finished out the war.

I only barely remember him, as this was when I was 5-8 years old. He was my hero at the time.
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1:21p, 10/8/23
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The air war in WWII will always be of interest to me so this obviously has me super excited. Not quite the same, but my grandfather was a bomber pilot (b-24 liberators) assigned to the pacific theater during the last couple of years of the war. Took part in missions over Bonin, the Marianas and Marshall Islands and eventually Iwo Jima. The things I knew he went thru and saw (like losing 2 of his copilots, one of which was basically blown up next to him by flak), puts me in awe of those guys and that generation.
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2:07p, 10/15/23
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My grandfather was a waist gunner on a B-17 in the Bloody 100th so I'm very excited about this series. Been waiting for it to come out for several years, and it kept getting pushed back. He'd be almost 100 when it debuts.
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3:19p, 10/15/23
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My Grandpa was a radar operator in a P-61 on the 414th night fighter squadron, flew over 43 combat missions and was patrolling over Italy when Germany surrendered. He never talked much about it, but wrote a bit about his time in service before he passed when I was a teenager. Can't begin to comprehend what he experienced, I know he saw friends die up there.
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3:13p, 11/8/23
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In reply to TCTTS • 4:16p, 11/8/23
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So presumably this means we're finally going to get this show?
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In reply to Cinco Ranch Aggie • 4:23p, 11/8/23
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I don't know which I'm more excited for... the show itself or never being asked again when it's coming out (something that's happened what feels like multiple times a year for well over a decade now).
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In reply to TCTTS • 5:48p, 11/8/23
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Band of Brothers aired in 2001.
The Pacific aired in 2010.
MotA airs in 2023/24?

So I suppose we should expect a series focused on a US Navy destroyer (hypothetical) around 2040/41? The timing could be gold given it's roughly the 100th anniversary of Pearl Harbor.

Come on, spill the beans! When will that one debut?????? Gotta plan my viewing around it.
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In reply to Cinco Ranch Aggie • 12:43a, 11/9/23
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Cinco Ranch Aggie said:
Band of Brothers aired in 2001.
The Pacific aired in 2010.
MotA airs in 2023/24?

So I suppose we should expect a series focused on a US Navy destroyer (hypothetical) around 2040/41? The timing could be gold given it's roughly the 100th anniversary of Pearl Harbor.

Come on, spill the beans! When will that one debut?????? Gotta plan my viewing around it.
Give me another movie in the Master & Commander series!
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In reply to Cinco Ranch Aggie • 6:56a, 11/9/23
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Give me a series on the USS Enterprise. The Big E. Most decorated ship of WWII. Only carrier that had pilots in action during Pearl Harbor. Saw action at Midway, Solomons, Santa Cruz, Guadalcanal, Philippine Sea, Leyte Gulf, Iwo Jima, Okinawa. By the end of the war, her planes and guns had downed 911 enemy planes, sunk 71 ships, and damaged or destroyed 192 more.

Would be hard to do a coherent storyline about a ship with so many sailors and airmen on board though.

Could do a short series on a destroyer like the USS Samuel B. Roberts or USS Johnston. Both were sunk while charging Japanese capital ships as they were trying to protect the carriers.
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