I always liked finishing Agatha's quest in FO3 so you could hear her violin music.

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Also, it's a little thing, but it's really nice hearing Nat King Cole in the trailer. I've always really liked the music in the games, though it does get repetitive when you put in a lot of time.

As an aside, the classical music in FO4 was a nice touch and hit different.

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Every single Fallout game used classical pre 1950s music. If they include anything more modern than this, I'll be legit angry.

Unfortunately I don't hold much hope for this reason:

> 98% male fanbase (if not higher)
> woman lead

They're never going to stop doing this, are they https://t.co/KhlMm11ZjS

— Ted Talks (@TedTalksX) December 2, 2023

A female vault dweller from a fanbase that is almost 100% male is crazy. Women don't even know what Fallout is, much less having ever played the games. The only thing worse than Fallout would be Warhammer 40k in the male/female ratio.

Don't watch it if you don't want to be disappointed I guess?

The DEI stuff gets discussed ad naseum here. I don't like it when it's forced. But there are plenty of stories that are great, too. See Star Wars Sequels vs Rogue One.

Nothing from the trailer indicates she'll be an over-the-top bad-ass. If anything, the opposite. I'll wait to find out and enjoy it in the meantime. Not to mention that there are multiple character arcs to follow.

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BenTheGoodAg said:

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Also, it's a little thing, but it's really nice hearing Nat King Cole in the trailer. I've always really liked the music in the games, though it does get repetitive when you put in a lot of time.

As an aside, the classical music in FO4 was a nice touch and hit different.

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Every single Fallout game used classical pre 1950s music. If they include anything more modern than this, I'll be legit angry.

Unfortunately I don't hold much hope for this reason:

> 98% male fanbase (if not higher)
> woman lead

They're never going to stop doing this, are they https://t.co/KhlMm11ZjS

— Ted Talks (@TedTalksX) December 2, 2023

A female vault dweller from a fanbase that is almost 100% male is crazy. Women don't even know what Fallout is, much less having ever played the games. The only thing worse than Fallout would be Warhammer 40k in the male/female ratio.

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You ever play the game? Story was awesome with a female main in 4. Mom gets to kill her elderly son.

They did say they wanted to tell a new story within the existing FO universe. Having the vault dweller be female is a way to do that. As a dude, that doesn't make me feel any less interested in tuning in. In most of the games, the vault dweller is sort of blank slate anyway.

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BenTheGoodAg said:

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Also, it's a little thing, but it's really nice hearing Nat King Cole in the trailer. I've always really liked the music in the games, though it does get repetitive when you put in a lot of time.

As an aside, the classical music in FO4 was a nice touch and hit different.

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Every single Fallout game used classical pre 1950s music. If they include anything more modern than this, I'll be legit angry.

Unfortunately I don't hold much hope for this reason:

> 98% male fanbase (if not higher)
> woman lead

They're never going to stop doing this, are they https://t.co/KhlMm11ZjS

— Ted Talks (@TedTalksX) December 2, 2023

A female vault dweller from a fanbase that is almost 100% male is crazy. Women don't even know what Fallout is, much less having ever played the games. The only thing worse than Fallout would be Warhammer 40k in the male/female ratio.

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You ever play the game? Story was awesome with a female main in 4. Mom gets to kill her elderly son.

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95% of the PCs chose a male. Women don't play these games. It's the same with every single game that has a create a character system.

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A female vault dweller from a fanbase that is almost 100% male is crazy. Women don't even know what Fallout is, much less having ever played the games. The only thing worse than Fallout would be Warhammer 40k in the male/female ratio.

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You have clearly never played FO76 if you think the fanbase is 100% male. Hell all of the the Bethesda/Obsidian Fallout games have been relatively popular with females. Either way that is completely inconsequential as the sex of the vault dweller is meaningless. All that matter is if they get the story right.

There is no story they are adapting. They are adapting the world, and writing a story within that world.

What is most important is they get the world correct, imo.

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Maybe when fallout 1 came out, girls are pretty darn geeky these days. I typically choose the girl on my first play through.

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Stats prove otherwise. We know from games like Mass Effect that 82% chose male characters.

Also, when you exclude games like FarmVille, women don't really play any of these games.

>breaks lore immediately by having a mutant vault dweller
>shitty Reddit humor

The game was rigged from the start. pic.twitter.com/AeMpzCtmzL

— DAKKADAKKA (@DAKKADAKKA1) December 3, 2023

This is going to be Halo'ed isn't it?

I do have to say, you seem to be talking out of your ass. We literally know nothing about the story of this show. Maybe this vault had opened at an earlier point, and later completely shut down because of what they discovered or how they were impacted. There's no way for us to know the story.

Also, show me this data that Fallout players make over 80% male characters. Again, I hate DEI and everything about this woke, 3rd-wave feminist world we live in now, but you are just screaming at clouds right now.

I'm sure the majority of Fallout players are male, but that player base doesn't mean they are creating male characters in a video game. The choice of a character's gender or race has literally no impact on the world aside from maybe some dialogue choices.

Now, if they fill the show with woke garbage, then I will be the first to call it out. In the same way that a multi-racial Rings of Power is ridiculous, I believe a Fallout show stuffed full with woke garbage is also ridiculous. This is literally the remnants of a world based around a stylized 1950's America, so using it as a platform to push post 2020 agendas would feel forced and take me completely out of the show.

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I'm married with kids. None of the women I know my age really play video games at all (30s and 40s). Perhaps among Gen Z this is different but I doubt it's changed all that much.

Always funny to see the "incel" claims come out when you go against the narrative.

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I'm married with kids. None of the women I know my age really play video games at all (30s and 40s). Perhaps among Gen Z this is different but I doubt it's changed all that much.

Always funny to see the "incel" claims come out when you go against the narrative.

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Mid-forties, married for 17 years. My wife loves video games. We played Halo on co-op when we didn't have the money to go out. We are both huge Fallout fans. Even out 10 year old daughter plays Fallout Shelter.

I do not know a single female in my real world circles that play video games. I've always been mystified by all these supposed women that play video games. They are unicorns to me.

Having said that, I'm looking forward to this show. Love Fallout and wish there was a new game coming out. Maybe there is and I'm unaware?

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My wife, 40, loves to play Mario kart with me and often plays games on her phone. She remembers being a kid and liking Nintendo, but feeling all the games were being made for boys because they all had male leads. There weren't any female protagonists for her to relate to.

Which, you know, might be why you're seeing more shows and games with female leads. Whatever the male-to-female ratio for fallout players is today. I bet more women will pick the next one up if we get a successful fallout tv show with a female protagonist. And guess what? A larger player base = more investment and more, better games. This could be a big win for anyone who loves that fallout universe.

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My wife, 40, loves to play Mario kart with me and often plays games on her phone. She remembers being a kid and liking Nintendo, but feeling all the games were being made for boys because they all had male leads. There weren't any female protagonists for her to relate to.

Which, you know, might be why you're seeing more shows and games with female leads. Whatever the male-to-female ratio for fallout players is today. I bet more women will pick the next one up if we get a successful fallout tv show with a female protagonist. And guess what? A larger player base = more investment and more, better games. This could be a big win for anyone who loves that fallout universe.

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I remember in the 80s my friends and I losing our **** when learning that Samus Aran is a woman.

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Always funny to see the "incel" claims come out when you go against the narrative.

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If "ugh, they made one of the leads a woman now no one is going to watch this show!" is "going against the narrative" then I guess you nailed it.

I always thought Florida would be a great setting for a FO game. Giant mutated swamp creatures, pirates, knock-off Disney parks, etc.

The PNW would be pretty great, too.

The cascades or the Columbia make for good natural barriers
Lots of modern military bases
Also lots of old WW1/2 era military bases (I already half expect a ghoul to be waiting for me in those dark bunkers!)
Lots of tech companies, which could make for cool ruins with crazy AI, robots, and weapons hidden in them
Lots of survivalist communities in the boonies
Huge variety in terrain types. From snowy mountain tops to volcanos, rain forests, and desert, Washington has it all.
You could throw in a goonies-inspired dungeon
Hanford nuclear site (practically a real-life "Glow" with all the radiation there)
Some really quirky towns - google "Leavenworth" and "Winthrop." One is built in the style of a Bavarian mountain village and the other is a Wild West town. Fallout could have a lot of fun applying its signature humor to that.

Shoot. It would be easy to use the Columbia as a border and say the Hanford nuclear sludge seeped out and irradiated the river, making it impassible.

No idea if the story will be any good, but man, they've absolutely nailed the Fallout vibe here.