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Claude! said:

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Wonder if this success will adjust Bethesda's timeline for the next game.

A man can dream, I guess.

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can we get another west coast game?

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Van Buren, the project codename that was cancelled in 2003 that was supposed to be the third fallout game, was set in Colorado, Arizona, Utah, and Nevada in 2253.

It would chronical the Brotherhood of Steel's war with the burgeoning New California Republic.

Sounds pretty cool to me.

BadMoonRisin said:

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cone said:

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Claude! said:

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Wonder if this success will adjust Bethesda's timeline for the next game.

A man can dream, I guess.

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can we get another west coast game?

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Van Buren, the project codename that was cancelled in 2003 that was supposed to be the third fallout game, was set in Colorado, Arizona, Utah, and Nevada in 2253.

It would chronical the Brotherhood of Steel's war with the burgeoning New California Republic.

Sounds pretty cool to me.

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That sounds like Horizon

Or... Garland?

How have we not been friends before this thread?

I'm a fan of appointment viewing

TCTTS said:

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From Puck's/Julia Alexander's latest newsletter...

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The Episodic Argument

Fallout may have had the second-biggest premiere in Prime Video history, but the show saw a decrease of 5 percent in its overall demand within the U.S., in its second week, compared to episodic releases like The Boys, which grew by 12 percent in its second week, and The Rings of Power, which grew by 3 percent in its third week, according to Parrot.

Over on Disney+, the majority of Marvel Studios' episodic shows grew in their second and third weeks, including Ms. Marvel, Moon Knight, WandaVision, and She-Hulk. Meanwhile, Marvel's first show to binge-release, Echo, had one of the largest debuts for a Disney+ Marvel seriestied with Loki's first season at 12.2 million views, according to Nielsenbut soon fell off the charts.

Netflix can withstand these decays. But it's another story at Disney+the binge-release model doesn't incentivize audiences to come back and check out a new series or film since there isn't enough new content hitting the service. Prime Video is in the same bucket. During the week of March 31, for juxtaposition, the top Netflix series (3 Body Problem) amassed more than 1.7 billion minutes viewed, according to data from the popular analyst who goes by TV Grim Reaper on X. Prime Video saw 812 minutes streamed for its top title, Road House. Fifty percent of Prime Video's Top 10 titles in the week saw under 100 million minutes streamed. None of Netflix's Top 10 titles dropped below 100 million minutes, and eight of Netflix's Top 10 list, as measured by Nielsen, were new.

Truly obsession-worthy entertainment is rare, and the studios able to grasp hold of a runaway train, like Fallout, should reward that scarcity with a weekly release. As I mentioned a few weeks ago, Netflix's strategy is about convenience: There may be few franchises, but there's always something.Convenience is a side effect of abundance, and in lieu of abundance, the power of scarcity comes in the form of commanding love for extended periods of time.

Baby Reindeer's success is derived from scale and convenience of a higher powerthe Netflix (and arguably TikTok) algorithm. For its part, Fallout owes a large part of its success to a pre-built fan base. And while both shows may be forgotten a month from now, Amazon will feel the pain of that fade-out far more.

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Amen.

Episodic releases are where it's at.

For shows like Fallout, week-to-week episode drops should be the standard.

For those of you who love to binge... just wait 'til the end of any given season's run, then go hog wild.

Otherwise, it's so much better when the conversation lasts for months, there's weekly anticipation, audience build up, etc. As opposed to a season vanishing like a fart in the wind after 10 days or so.

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I even think doing something like dropping 2 episodes the first week could be good, to help people get bought in.
But if you know you have a show that people will love, there is no reason to drop the season all at once.
Luckily I am still seeing a lot of discussion about Fallout amongst friends and online, so I think people are still finding it.

I don't care about any of that. I just want to watch the season, so I like it dropping all at once. I honestly don't want to theorize on shows like this because you get all that BS between fans of th IP and newcomers.

If you want to watch it at one show per week, then do that and have those discussions with your friends who want to watch it that way.

Yeah I'm selfish and don't really care about week to week episode requests I would rather just binge, and no I'm not waiting until the episodes are all out to binge.

Also weekly stuff is only fun for huge cultural phenomenons like GoT where literally everyone at work is talking about it. No one was really going to be theorizing over a brand new fallout show. .

NSFW

Madmarttigan said:

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Yeah I'm selfish and don't really care about week to week episode requests I would rather just binge, and no I'm not waiting until the episodes are all out to binge.

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Exactly. Love the binge.

Generally speaking, I prefer episodic just because it gives me a reason to space out something I enjoy. But I've also found myself enjoying the weekly discussion less and less, especially when it's telling a story that's already been told in another medium. I've gotten tired of the people making "predictions" and acting like they aren't just spoiling **** for everyone else.

I wonder if the fact that it's Fallout played into the decision to binge. I mean, they hit a home run with it, but I think they had a better chance of falling on their face.

This franchise is different and weird. Maybe they thought the only way to win over fanboys and bring in non-gamers was too lay it all out there instead of spoon feeding everyone.

DallasTeleAg said:

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Or... Garland?

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That's just awesome

Yea, there are probably two discussions.
1.) does releasing all at once or weekly generate more discussion/views as far as the studios are concerned.
2.) do you personally prefer one or the other.

I like doing both honestly, sometimes binging is better.
I think I find I appreciate the individual episodes more with a weekly release, and with binging its kind of all one big episode.
It was novel when Netflix would just start dumping it all at once when they were the first/only service out there basically.
I think I prefer the weekly release overall, though.

I think there's a lot to be said about the natural pacing and rhythm of a show. Something like Fallout or 24 that's an action/adventure story gets your adrenaline rushing, it's harder to wait week-to-week and doesn't fit the feel of the content.

Something that's a slower burn or more of a mind-bender, I'm all about taking it a week at a time. Take a show like The Crown or Severance (Both really good shows) and I don't feel like I'm missing out, or trying to put myself back in the same adrenal state as when I finished the last episode.

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For the life of me I cannot understand the justification of releasing all the episodes once a week. It's just the dumbest strategy and I've said that for years now. Just completely kills the buzz of good tv.

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FIFY

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bangobango said:

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For the life of me I cannot understand the justification of releasing all the episodes once a week. It's just the dumbest strategy and I've said that for years now. Just completely kills the buzz of good tv.

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From the producers perspective. I get some of the fans like it, but how does it help the show or the streaming service to do it that way?

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Wow ... that first episode might be the wildest opener I've ever seen. Everything about it was just eye-popping. I was hooked about two minutes in.

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I agree, so well done. Definitely elicited an emotional (and broad range) reaction. A very high caliber product for a TV series. Rivals any big Hollywood production.

Just finished it, and I just wanna say again that Walton Goggins is the ****ing man. Also, great first season, and I'm excited for season 2.

I only played Fallout 3, great game.

Average Joe said:

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I wonder if the fact that it's Fallout played into the decision to binge. I mean, they hit a home run with it, but I think they had a better chance of falling on their face.

This franchise is different and weird. Maybe they thought the only way to win over fanboys and bring in non-gamers was too lay it all out there instead of spoon feeding everyone.

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A very feasible take IMO. Fallout managed to snag in an absolutely massive pool of people not familiar with it. In this incredibly niche setting it's actually kinda amazing they did. By minutes watched, this is now Amazons most successful show of all time and I they did it by snaring in that crowd of outsiders. And we as a people need instant gratification so Amazon gave it to us that way. I think it is riskier doing a slow release with someone who has no attachment to the setting at all. Makes sense in my head at least.

That being said, I can see them doing a weekly thing for S2 now. They built the foundation and now can take slightly more risk to build the epic they are hoping for.

Also, for those super familiar with the setting and not looking at other easter egg sighting type of outside sources, a second watch through you pick up sooooo much more detail instead of just being focused on the story. I am not usually super excited about easter eggs but I watched it again and deeply appreciate the attention to detail. I picked up a lot of it of course first watch, enough to respect them a lot, but I caught so much more the second time around. Good stuff. This is how you honor a long time rich franchise.

Although, I did solidify my one and only real complaint about the show The gratuitous use of the oldies music in so many scenes got a smidge offputting over time. I think it is just the sound engineering at heart though and there were times it was a tiny bit overloud and overbearing in certain scenes and settings and not the actual usage of it in the first place. It's a stupid nitpick for sure, but it's there for me.

All in all from an "ackshually!" super fan? Easy 9/10 as a whole product.