Dune [Spoiler Thread]

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In reply to Sea Speed • 2:45p, 10/29/21
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Sea Speed said:
So for real, what do the sand worms eat?
IIRC Sand
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2:46p, 10/29/21
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Well thats convenient. Seems like whales eating water though.
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In reply to Sea Speed • 3:08p, 10/29/21
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Sea Speed said:
So for real, what do the sand worms eat?

Why are you asking us? Do we look like planetary ecologists to you?
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In reply to Sea Speed • 3:11p, 10/29/21
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Sea Speed said:
So for real, what do the sand worms eat?
they eat sandplankton, which is a larval form of sandtrout, which is a larval form of tthe worms. So they are cannibals of their children.

sandplankton eat spice. So it is a cycle all of themselves.

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In reply to powerbelly • 3:12p, 10/29/21
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powerbelly said:
Sea Speed said:
So for real, what do the sand worms eat?
IIRC Sand
I seem to recall someone saying that sand is coarse, rough, irritating, and that it gets everywhere. Gotta be a bad diet those worms are on. (No wonder they go after those spice trawlers and any dipstick people that just happen to be walking about, must be like me and a bowl of Blue Bell ice cream).
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In reply to DVC2010 • 3:21p, 10/29/21
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DVC2010 said:
Sea Speed said:
So for real, what do the sand worms eat?

Why are you asking us? Do we look like planetary ecologists to you?
Yes
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3:23p, 10/29/21
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Literally laughing at this.



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In reply to Atreides Ornithopter • 3:51p, 10/29/21
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Arrakis ecologist said:
DVC2010 said:
Sea Speed said:
So for real, what do the sand worms eat?

Why are you asking us? Do we look like planetary ecologists to you?
Yes


The greatest username change in the history of Texags.
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In reply to MaroonStain • 3:53p, 10/29/21
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What is the story of the Baron?

Cyborg...alien...part monster...?

Any links to history of the Baron and how f***ed this character is ---> flying, healing in oil/blood/balsamic vinegar and imposing as hades.

???
Human, with some implants that allow him to float, because he's too fat to walk on his own.
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In reply to Sea Speed • 4:05p, 10/29/21
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Sea Speed said:
So for real, what do the sand worms eat?


Sand plankton, which are precursors to sand trout, which are precursors to sand worms.
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In reply to Cromagnum • 4:09p, 10/29/21
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Cromagnum said:
Sea Speed said:
So for real, what do the sand worms eat?


Sand plankton, which are precursors to sand trout, which are precursors to sand worms.


Duh
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In reply to Atreides Ornithopter • 4:14p, 10/29/21
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Arrakis ecologist said:
Cromagnum said:
Sea Speed said:
So for real, what do the sand worms eat?


Sand plankton, which are precursors to sand trout, which are precursors to sand worms.


Duh


Love this username. LOL
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4:20p, 10/29/21
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But then where does the spice come from?!
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In reply to Decay • 4:24p, 10/29/21
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Decay said:
But then where does the spice come from?!


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In reply to MaroonStain • 4:35p, 10/29/21
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MaroonStain said:
Arrakis ecologist said:
DVC2010 said:
Sea Speed said:
So for real, what do the sand worms eat?

Why are you asking us? Do we look like planetary ecologists to you?
Yes


The greatest username change in the history of Texags.
That's a long 6 months.
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In reply to MaroonStain • 4:45p, 10/29/21
MaroonStain said:
Arrakis ecologist said:
DVC2010 said:
Sea Speed said:
So for real, what do the sand worms eat?

Why are you asking us? Do we look like planetary ecologists to you?
Yes


The greatest username change in the history of Texags.
Is this you?

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In reply to MaroonStain • 5:18p, 10/29/21
MaroonStain said:
Arrakis ecologist said:
DVC2010 said:
Sea Speed said:
So for real, what do the sand worms eat?

Why are you asking us? Do we look like planetary ecologists to you?
Yes


The greatest username change in the history of Texags.

I wish TA listed all of the previous user names tied to an account.

No I have no idea who this is. I guess I will just have to assume fat bib is back.
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In reply to Duncan Idaho • 5:19p, 10/29/21
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He is, and it is not arakkis ecologist
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In reply to Duncan Idaho • 5:20p, 10/29/21
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Duncan Idaho said:
MaroonStain said:
Arrakis ecologist said:
DVC2010 said:
Sea Speed said:
So for real, what do the sand worms eat?

Why are you asking us? Do we look like planetary ecologists to you?
Yes


The greatest username change in the history of Texags.

I wish TA listed all of the previous user names tied to an account.

No I have no idea who this is. I guess I will just have to assume fat bib is back.
He was back with a different user name.
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5:20p, 10/29/21
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When someone changes names you can go look for old posts they were quoted in and it will show their past usernames.
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5:32p, 10/29/21
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Brennus -> Sarduakar -> Shai-Halud -> Baron Von Flag Smasher -> Arrakis ecologist
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In reply to Sea Speed • 6:00p, 10/29/21
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Sea Speed said:
I fully got the feeling that he knew or believed something was going to happen. Non book reader.

He did, and I think the movie covered it even if it didn't beat you over the head with it.

1. Leto knew it was a trap. He said as much, and all around him recognized how dangerous it was to go to Arrakis. They talk a lot about political danger, the massive wealth being given up by the Harkonnen that they would certainly begrudge, etc. He even hesitates when the time came to seal the deal (so to speak) despite his confident words about duty and courage to the herald.

2. Leto has a plan to turn the trap around on the Emperor and Baron, though. That's Desert Power, which doesn't mean riding sandworms around. He's talking about his desired alliance with the Fremen. Hawat has guessed that these natives, known by all to be incredibly deadly warriors, number in the millions and not just the thousands. An alliance with them gives the Atreides the most lethal army in the universe and the political capital to hold Arrakis and keep the hated Harkonnen and jealous Emperor at bay.

3. Things go south almost immediately for Leto. As his new fief, he has to give tribute to the Emperor in the form of spice. Massive tribute. Leto knew the Baron would hinder these efforts but thought he could expect some support from the Judge of the Change. This is the Emperor's spice that is being denied him, after all, but Leto underestimated the Emperor's involvement in the betrayal. Leto thought he would have more time to turn things around, and more support in doing so.

4. Things still probably would have worked out okay for the Atreides, but Yueh was the trump card Leto didn't expect. The Atreides never even got to mount a defense. The Baron outmaneuvered the Duke.

And that's all in the movie, I think. Having knowledge of the book helps, of course.
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In reply to AliasMan02 • 6:06p, 10/29/21
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Yes you nailed it. I fully understood all of those things. It was spelled out fantastically I think. I was not lost whatsoever and I was basically ignorant on the entire premise.
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6:32p, 10/29/21
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Just finished 2nd watch in theaters. Such a great film. I love the music for House Atreides when they arrive on Arrakis. I can see Zimmer's thought process in using bagpipes since House Atreides is from Caladan (Caledonia aka Scotland).

Man this film is gonna go down as a work of art. Like someone else said. Shortest long movie of all time. I could watch that for 6 hours straight easily
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In reply to wangus12 • 7:03p, 10/29/21
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The two parts together will be epic!
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In reply to schmendeler • 7:11p, 10/29/21
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schmendeler said:
The two parts together will be epic!


I will absolutely back to back them in a theater. I hope they do it with an ~10 minute intermission.
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In reply to Sea Speed • 7:30p, 10/29/21
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Sea Speed said:
schmendeler said:
The two parts together will be epic!


I will absolutely back to back them in a theater. I hope they do it with an ~10 minute intermission.


If you were watching in a nice Fremen made stillsuit you wouldn't even need that 10 mins
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In reply to Atreides Ornithopter • 7:31p, 10/29/21
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I'm not above an old fashioned Gatorade bottle.
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7:36p, 10/29/21
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Since we are talking about having to use the head, I legit judge movies by how much I can ignore my bladder. If using the restroom comes in to my head I know the movie has lost me in some way. In some movies I almost completely stop paying attention because I get so focused on having to use the head. I was very much worried about this going in to a 2.5 + hour sitting with the previews. Legit didn't pop in to my head once, which honestly blows my mind.
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7:39p, 10/29/21
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Ok, real question. Why do the navigators need spice for interstellar travel? I think that is the only thing I really didn't catch or understand. And there are only a small handful of these navigators, or can anyone do it with enough spice and time.

Also how long do these people live? Paul's grandfather Battles bulls, but for an interstellar family to have so much power, surely they are centuries upon centuries established. It seems weird that their whole house lore would rest just a generation removed.
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In reply to Sea Speed • 7:43p, 10/29/21
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Spice has psychotropic powers. It actually grants a degree of prescience, depending on various factors.
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In reply to schmendeler • 7:45p, 10/29/21
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I caught the psychotropic aspect, amd I guess it makes sense. Last time I tripped all I did was stare in to space anyways.
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In reply to Sea Speed • 7:46p, 10/29/21
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Sea Speed said:
Ok, real question. Why do the navigators need spice for interstellar travel? I think that is the only thing I really didn't catch or understand. And there are only a small handful of these navigators, or can anyone do it with enough spice and time.

Also how long do these people live? Paul's grandfather Battles bulls, but for an interstellar family to have so much power, surely they are centuries upon centuries established. It seems weird that their whole house lore would rest just a generation removed.


The navigators use spice to "fold space" with their mind. Basically making a wormhole from points. I wouldn't say anyone, time and having the aptitude matter. It is basically like the other training houses( mentats, or Battle masters which is what Duncan was) you train and are given spice. There is a bit more to it but could potentially ruin part 2.

Spice does prolong life as well. But only the ultra rich can buy it.
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In reply to Sea Speed • 8:16p, 10/29/21
Sea Speed said:
Ok, real question. Why do the navigators need spice for interstellar travel? I think that is the only thing I really didn't catch or understand. And there are only a small handful of these navigators, or can anyone do it with enough spice and time.

Also how long do these people live? Paul's grandfather Battles bulls, but for an interstellar family to have so much power, surely they are centuries upon centuries established. It seems weird that their whole house lore would rest just a generation removed.
Using the spice to the degree that the navigators do also has some significant, and in most versions of Dune, not so pleasant effects on them, physically and in other ways. Probably better they didn't show them in the first movie, it will probably be a lot to unpack depending on how DV designs them in Part 2
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In reply to Sea Speed • 8:37p, 10/29/21
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Sea Speed said:
Ok, real question. Why do the navigators need spice for interstellar travel? I think that is the only thing I really didn't catch or understand. And there are only a small handful of these navigators, or can anyone do it with enough spice and time.

Also how long do these people live? Paul's grandfather Battles bulls, but for an interstellar family to have so much power, surely they are centuries upon centuries established. It seems weird that their whole house lore would rest just a generation removed.


There are different levels of spice addiction. The blue eyes (eyes of Ibad) that the Fremen have is the first sign. Guild navigators are basically in a container with a continuous dose of spice and are heavily mutated as a result. They don't look human at all.
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