The Last of Us - HBO

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Have no doubt that got you going, but what does it have to do with Bill? The episode was done to generate heavier engagement. Accomplished. But it was not in and had nothing to do with the game.

You guys do this so ****ing much when a show/movie shows anything that isn't heteronormative white males. A movie highlights women? Its only for social justice. A show shows a black person doing something amazing, obviously social justice. A gay love story, SOCIAL JUSTICE!!!!!

Maybe people just want to tell these stories because they are worth telling? The fact that ya'll think that the only time a non white male or non straight male is worth highlighting is due to some other agenda is just telling on yourself that you don't think those stories are worth exploring. In that world view, anytime anyone other than the people you value are highlighted its due to some weird agenda you've cooked up and not because they might be interesting.

It reveals so much about y'all who constantly do this *****
this is so incredibly dense and full of *****

let's get the facts straight - people have been watching movies about great things done by gay people, gay love stories, minority stories, you name it, for decades and decades now.







And people like you have been *****ing about it the whole time.
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schmendeler said:

cbr said:

MBAR said:

BudFox7 said:

Have no doubt that got you going, but what does it have to do with Bill? The episode was done to generate heavier engagement. Accomplished. But it was not in and had nothing to do with the game.

You guys do this so ****ing much when a show/movie shows anything that isn't heteronormative white males. A movie highlights women? Its only for social justice. A show shows a black person doing something amazing, obviously social justice. A gay love story, SOCIAL JUSTICE!!!!!

Maybe people just want to tell these stories because they are worth telling? The fact that ya'll think that the only time a non white male or non straight male is worth highlighting is due to some other agenda is just telling on yourself that you don't think those stories are worth exploring. In that world view, anytime anyone other than the people you value are highlighted its due to some weird agenda you've cooked up and not because they might be interesting.

It reveals so much about y'all who constantly do this *****
this is so incredibly dense and full of *****

let's get the facts straight - people have been watching movies about great things done by gay people, gay love stories, minority stories, you name it, for decades and decades now.







And people like you have been *****ing about it the whole time.
wrong - only when the agenda/indoctrination makes an absolute joke of the show, which has happened a few times lately.

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Not that it matters too much on the grand scheme, but I think Pittsburgh (game) is now Kansas City (show)

They gotta get west at some point.
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Your logic is faulty. 100% of content should have a certain % of LGBT, not a certain percentage should have 100% LGBT characters.

It's not an either/or situation.
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These arguments back and forth are why it's just best to FF through the woke garbage if you don't like it. Or watch it if that kind of thing inspires you. Each to his own.
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Brian Earl Spilner said:

Your logic is faulty. 100% of content should have a certain % of LGBT, not a certain percentage should have 100% LGBT characters.

It's not an either/or situation.
lol a show with 5 people should 100% have at least one gay, or two?
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Dude, you are trying so very hard here and doing a wonderful job of showing us what kind of person you are.

I don't understand how this story is so offensive or 'destructive' to you. Are you not capable of looking past a person's sexuality to just enjoy a good story? Did the bear love upset you that much? Jeez...
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Your logic makes far less sense. Rather than 6% LGBT in any content, you want LGBT characters to only be in 6% of all content. That's not how that works.
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10% of millenials and 20% of Gen Z identify as LGBTQ+. This will only become more commonplace in TV as people want more shows that cater to their own experiences. Get used to it, or bury your head in the sand.
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I'm going to make a completely futile request that we assume that everyone's said their piece on the sexual/political stuff.

Can we move forward with just discussion the plot and other aspects of the production?
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We can until someone decides to catch up on the thread and replies to something two pages ago and just kickstarts it all over again
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I'm just glad we weren't treated to Frank eating Bill's ass while snorting those ALS pills
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BJM1781 said:

Dude, you are trying so very hard here and doing a wonderful job of showing us what kind of person you are.

I don't understand how this story is so offensive or 'destructive' to you. Are you not capable of looking past a person's sexuality to just enjoy a good story? Did the bear love upset you that much? Jeez...
you are not comprehending anything i am saying

i dgaf who or what someone likes to ****.

however, the agenda being pushed is deliberately divisive and destructive to everyone.

they abused the story to push the agenda and deliberately force this divisive conversation.

the agenda and its purpose is offensive, not homosexuality, to me at least.
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Have you played the games?
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Sigh
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cbr said:

BJM1781 said:

Dude, you are trying so very hard here and doing a wonderful job of showing us what kind of person you are.

I don't understand how this story is so offensive or 'destructive' to you. Are you not capable of looking past a person's sexuality to just enjoy a good story? Did the bear love upset you that much? Jeez...
you are not comprehending anything i am saying

i dgaf who or what someone likes to ****.

however, the agenda being pushed is deliberately divisive and destructive to everyone.

they abused the story to push the agenda and deliberately force this divisive conversation.

the agenda and its purpose is offensive, not homosexuality, to me at least.


The existence of gay people in popular media isn't an agenda. The characters were gay in the original content. You need to get over it.
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It was woke in the original content but who cares. If you aren't prepared for sanctimonious woke fest then you best not watch modern entertainment. Just roll your eyes and move along is what I say.
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Definitely Not A Cop said:

Have you played the games?


No, no he hasn't
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schmendeler said:

cbr said:

BJM1781 said:

Dude, you are trying so very hard here and doing a wonderful job of showing us what kind of person you are.

I don't understand how this story is so offensive or 'destructive' to you. Are you not capable of looking past a person's sexuality to just enjoy a good story? Did the bear love upset you that much? Jeez...
you are not comprehending anything i am saying

i dgaf who or what someone likes to ****.

however, the agenda being pushed is deliberately divisive and destructive to everyone.

they abused the story to push the agenda and deliberately force this divisive conversation.

the agenda and its purpose is offensive, not homosexuality, to me at least.


The existence of gay people in popular media isn't an agenda. The characters were gay in the original content. You need to get over it.
i am long over it, the show was just an eye roll, go back and read my posts.

but i will never get over useful idiots pushing this agenda everywhere, including this forum. as long as people are still pushing it, i'll respond.

did 20% of the game play involve 2 dudes getting in and out of the shower and bed together?

j/k, lol, lord knows you can't make jokes about it.

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You're in one gigantic circular argument, my man
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Teslag said:

It was woke in the original content but who cares. If you aren't prepared for sanctimonious woke fest then you best not watch modern entertainment. Just roll your eyes and move along is what I say.
lol, go back and read my first post. that's exactly what i did.

the rest is responding to people who are offended by the fact that 'gasp' not everyone wants to watch 20 minutes of gay intimacy that detracts from the storyline to push a political agenda.
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Some of you are trying your damndest to turn this thread into the other ****show thread on this board

There's plenty of this homophobic virtue signaling happening over on the other one. Why take it here
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And this is the really unfortunate consequence of all the programming and casting decisions that DO clearly push "an agenda."

Suddenly, every single instance of homosexual characters or multiracial casting becomes THE AGENDA.

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Ghost of Bisbee said:

Some of you are trying your damndest to turn this thread into the other ****show thread on this board

There's plenty of this homophobic virtue signaling happening over on the other one. Why take it here
the show took it to ****show level.

on purpose.

that's the point and the problem

so the question is, when do useful idiots stop pushing the agenda here, so we can move on and talk about the show... if we care enough to bother.

what all the useful idiot name callers around here keep missing is that i actually managed to enjoy the episode, without being blind to the manipulation going on.
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It was a story about unconditional love, that happened to be between two men, in a show that has many more straight characters than gay characters represented

How is that pushing an agenda?

You're looking for a reason to be offended, which is honestly just as bad as woke culture today
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Ghost of Bisbee said:

It was a story about unconditional love, that happened to be between two men, in a show that has many more straight characters than gay characters represented

How is that pushing an agenda?

You're looking for a reason to be offended, which is honestly just as bad as woke culture today
read again

dont care about the fact that the love story is between gay people, even though that whole schtick is so radically, absurdly overrepresnted these days and very unlikely in this context as well.... but anyway, that is not the problem.

spending 20 minutes in and out of showers, bed, etc., and making out is pushing an agenda, rather than the story, especially when 95% plus of your audience is not interested at all in seeing that.
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cbr said:

Ghost of Bisbee said:

It was a story about unconditional love, that happened to be between two men, in a show that has many more straight characters than gay characters represented

How is that pushing an agenda?

You're looking for a reason to be offended, which is honestly just as bad as woke culture today
read again

dont care about the fact that the love story is between gay people, even though that whole schtick is so radically, absurdly overrepresnted these days and very unlikely in this context as well.... but anyway, that is not the problem.

spending 20 minutes in and out of showers, bed, etc., and making out is pushing an agenda, rather than the story, especially when 95% plus of your audience is not interested at all in seeing that.


Is this what the conversations on the premium board are like?
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you mean one side providing facts and reasoned opinions and the other just calling names? pretty much.
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cbr said:

you mean one side providing facts and reasoned opinions and the other just calling names? pretty much.

Now that's the funniest thing I've read on here today.
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Jesus, he's still going?? I guess I shouldn't be surprised after his contributions to the House of the Dragon thread…
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I love how much showers bother this dude. They didn't even show anyone in a shower.
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Hey! There were at least 4 showers taken by 4 different people in that episode. WAY too many, even if they didn't show as much as a fogged shot of shower glass at any point
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episode 4 trailer breakdown....

 
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